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One problem here is that you are assuming that the rate of recession is linear. But this is not the case. The recession is due to angular momentum transfer between the earth's rotation and the moon's revolution due to tides. (The tidal bulge rotates with the earth, because of frictional drag...

Please quote the verse that says Adam was created "perfect" in the the sense that he could not sin. "Sinless" has nothing to do with physical death. Being sinless avoids spiritual death. You need to read the rest of Genesis 2:17: "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou...

:confused: That's your idea. Nor is it logical. Good works are good works, no matter who does them. We believe Christians do such works because of their faith. Atheists are going to have different motives. Doing good works does not make an atheist into a Christian. You seem to have some...

How did you misread the passage so badly? First, he is not speaking to "religious leaders", but an ordinary congregation at synagogue. Second, the poor may have been there, but the criminals were not. They would be in prison. Third, he did not talk about salvation. Instead he talked about...

[/FONT][/FONT] Gadfly has ranted against my posts, but he seems to have skipped this. C'mon guys, the popcorn is getting stale.

You have never used a definition from an academic source. Opentopia is not an academic source. If you really think you gave a definition of liberal Christian from an academic source, please give us the source again. What I did was give you a set of tenets of liberal Christianity from an...

I'm interested in seeing how you justify those "charitable deeds". Another name for them is "good works". I can't wait to hear you tell us exactly what "social-economic system" humanism is. How does it view property. Money. Exchange of goods and services. Please be sure to cite your...

That's irrelevant. There doesn't need to be a "movement". Gadfly is insisting that humanism is completely incompatible with Christianity. That is true for secular humanism, but it is not true for humanism itself. As the essay in the OP pointed out, if we eliminate humanism from Christianity...

No problem. What denominational tradition is the Salvation Army? Calvinist? Anglican? While I agree with the sentiment, I must say I personally dislike the Salvation Army. Do you think that is really desirable? Would it be a good thing to go back to just one Church? :) That's what I was...

I think we had better go back to the OP and look at the definition of humanism again: ""Humanism, however, in its basic meaning has nothing to say one way or the other about God or religion. Humanism is simply a concern with things human, especially with literature, the arts, and the...

No, we can't, because it isn't accurate. Wiki is simply perpetuating the error on definitions the essay was trying to correct. That's secularism. Humanism is caring about things that are human. Art, literature, etc. How we treat our fellow humans is part of humanism. Thus charitable...

But the point of the essay is that they should not be the same thing. That's the error Gadfly is introducing. Why are you using Wiki as a serious source? Too many people with axes to grind have access to Wiki. As you will note, none of them are the definition the essay got from Webster's...

Your misuse of the term "has nothing to do with God". You are using that phrase as "reject God". That isn't what the essay said. ""Humanism, however, in its basic meaning has nothing to say one way or the other about God or religion. Humanism is simply a concern with things human," This is...

I think to be a Christian requires that we really believe God created the heavens and the earth. The Nicene Creed states this. This in turn requires that we recognize that everything put in God's Creation was put there by God. This includes all the evidence for an old earth, evolution, etc...

You simply can't say -- by science -- that there is no need of God. Atheists have made a scientific mistake here. Oh yes, I can. I can blame them for extrapolating beyond science to their beliefs. I can blame them for confusing their beliefs as science. You too seem to be thinking the...

Sigh. Special Creation has God directly designing each and every species. He does this when He poofs them into existence. The problem with this is that God becomes directly responsible for all the stupid, sadistic designs in plants and animals. In having natural selection design plants and...

Evolution is not an ideology. The ideology is atheism. Evolution, for Christians, is simply how God created the diversity of life on the planet.

"Faith Faith is the basic orientation and commitment of our whole being—a matter of heart and soul. Christian faith is grounding our lives in the living God as revealed especially in Jesus Christ. It’s both a gift we receive within the Christian community and a choice we make. It’s trusting in...

[/FONT][/FONT][/B] Oooh. Let me get popcorn.

That isn't true in the Catholicism your icon says you belong to. Catholics practice Papal authority. In Wesley's Parish, individual scripture is not the "complete authority from beginning to end". Scripture is interpreted using the "quadrilateral". This results in some verses -- such as...