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    PCUSA gives "In Christ Alone" the Boot

    Romans 5:8-10: “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him! For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him...
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    Presbyterian group breaks away over gay clergy

    Hedrick-- I know we have often butted heads on things, but I basically agree with you in this. Unfortunately, a number of things have happened in the past couple of years that have made it impossible for the two sides to live with each other. The rejection of the non-geographic presbytery idea...
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    Presbyterian group breaks away over gay clergy

    The ability of a presbytery to be affiliated with the Fellowship/ECO is being challenged right now. The Presbytery of Santa Barbara declared itself a "union" presbytery, affiliated with both PCUSA and ECO. A complaint was then filed against it: St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church :: Remedial...
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    Presbyterian group breaks away over gay clergy

    I think the reason most PCUSA churches are not going to go the PCA route is that PCA requires fairly rigid adherence to the Westminster standards, and also is very thorough in its examination of teaching and ruling elders before they will let them serve in PCA. I've heard reputable evangelical...
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    Presbyterian group breaks away over gay clergy

    Here's a website talking about ECO: About ECO I think ECO is still a work in progress. Whether it or the EPC will be where most of the departing PCUSA churches end up is an open question (although I could see the two groups merging at some point). One of the issues with joining EPC is that...
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    where are all the nice guys?

    But which one gave up his life for her?
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    What makes the USA a Christian nation?

    You're catching on! So you admit that there is nothing to change the holding of the 1892 Supreme Court that the US is a Christian Nation. Checkmate and Game Over.
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    What makes the USA a Christian nation?

    Sorry Charlie, that's not what it means in the Constitution, nor did it begin to have that understanding in common parlance until after the Civil War. The term "United States" in the Constitution only refers to the federal government. Proof of the pudding is the wording of the Tenth Amendment...
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    What makes the USA a Christian nation?

    Before the modern secularists rewrote our country's history, it was clear that the First Amendment was only supposed to apply to not having an established Church of America, it was not to say other religions, or atheism, were entitled to the same legal treatment as Christianity. This can be...
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    What makes the USA a Christian nation?

    Dude, the answer is staring you straight in the face and says the exact opposite of what you claim it does. There are two parts of this Constitutional provision. The first is that all officers, federal and state, must take an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the United States...
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    What makes the USA a Christian nation?

    Please show me where in the Constitution this is true for other than the federal government. You won't find it. This recent extension of prohibitions to the state governments is all a creation of recent renegade decisions of the US Supreme Court which ignore the history of the country. Seven...
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    What makes the USA a Christian nation?

    What Justice Brewer wrote privately 13 years after the decision is irrelevant. A judge (especially a single judge that is part of a larger court) cannot change the decision of a court by saying he meant something else later. This is a red herring put out by the secularist crowd. If the issue...
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    What makes the USA a Christian nation?

    The United States Supreme Court ruled the U.S. was a Christian Nation in 1892, so it's not an open question, other than the fact that this decision is ignored in present times.
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    Benefit of Waiting till Marriage to Have Sex

    Absolutely on the money, see also this, some of many other verses in Scripture: "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men, nor thieves nor the...
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    Benefit of Waiting till Marriage to Have Sex

    Wow you really read some really bad theology. The New Testament is crystal clear that sex outside of marriage is not permitted for a Christian.
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    What makes the USA a Christian nation?

    Why should I waste my time with you, since you don't care about the truth? You need to spend some time and go out and find the answers for yourself. Just read the paper or go on the internet. Prayer at Football Games
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    What makes the USA a Christian nation?

    Great news that North Carolinians have just reaffirmed Christian marriage in their state!
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    Benefit of Waiting till Marriage to Have Sex

    There's a ton of literature on this. I would do some Google searches on premarital sex / divorce or something like that. You will find all the studies.
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    What makes the USA a Christian nation?

    Christian Legal Society v. Martinez (2010), now being asserted as the legal basis for requiring Christian groups to leave campuses if they don't endorse homosexuality and allow non-Christians to lead their groups. See numerous examples at Vanderbilt University and other colleges.
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    What makes the USA a Christian nation?

    This shows how atheists are fundamentally ignorant of this country's Christian history and want to rewrite it. The First Amendment to the Constitution only applies to actions by Congress, i.e., the federal government. It said, in this area, that there could be no nationally established church...