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Hey...what ever floats your boat man. Your life. LOL :wave:

Since I have been studying and teaching the scriptures for 30+ years as well I can tell you without any reservation whatsoever that you are in error. In fact...this issue has been of special interest to me. But there is little point in discussing it with someone of such a closed mind as...

You may want to consider changing your handle. Just saying...LOL :P

Clearly your mind is made up. Just as clearly you have never truly studied (objectively) the countless scholars who believe your position is in error. That is your right...to come to your own conclusion. It obviously works for you. It is your claim to absolute authority of scripture...

I think I will simply take your advice and not "cast my pearls before swine".

Wow - I find these posts both tedious and legalistic to the extreme. How about you simply make a point? We all have copies of the bible already.

These statements are contrary both to clear scripural revelation and to medical science. You obviously have a strong personal bias...but I do not believe it is grounded in either science or God. It is nothing but personal opinion and as such is only authoritative for YOU. BTW - If consuming...

Actually I think you make a far better Christian than those who would defend such nonsense as to believe God actually ordered the slaughter of innocents. Not everything the prophets (or even Moses for that matter) said got written down exactly as God intended. This passage is a clear example of...

I'm with ya! Left my church of 11 years and my teaching ministry of 25. I have pretty much had it with organized rleigion. Christians can be some of the meanest and unloving people I know. Seems the closer I get to Christ the farther I am drawn away from the typical church.

Fortunately we don't need you to explain what Jesus meant ("IE: obey what God said in the Torah") because Jesus explained it Himself very plainly in Matthew 25 and it had nothing to do with obeying the torah as you keep falsely promoting. 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and...

8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet,”[a] and whatever...

LOL - You know full well it is scriptural truth. Paul said "why should my freedom be judged by another's conscience". Call it what you will...I call it truth.

To continue to list child molestation as not clearly prohibited by the law of love reveals to me that you are unwilling to engage with honesty. Harming a child is clear. Not everything on the list you two have stated is clear. The principle here is paramount...Jesus did away with the law and...

So you believe that in order to have a discussion I must relinquish my view? Why should it not be you to relinquish your view? ( <staff edit> ) Silly to say the least. For the record, I have changed my view on a great many things in the past few years and it has been quite liberating. I do...

You and I both know the actions you speak of are violations of the law of love. This is the ONLY command we have left and represents God's law for today. To wish to put together a specific list of items you believe to be sinful may be fine for you (sin for one is not sin for another) but I may...

I have responded to your point several times, you just don't like my answer. Frankly I don't care how many times you make the false statement that I have not responded...my answer is not going to change. I do NOT agree there is sin other than what is condemned in the bible. This has been my...

If you won't even admit that assulting a child is a clearly prohibited violation of the law of love then there is no point in discussing this with you. I have no interest in such extreme dodges and logical fallacies. I do not believe you are here for genuine disucssion any more.

Yeah I am with Jase on this. If you are going to claim something as "Jesus exact words" then you need to provide the scripture reference.

I have no clue what point you think you are making but no that is NOT the law of love.

These child molestation analogies are complete and total red herring's The law of love handles that issue quite nicely. To compare a criminal offense commited against a child to consentual sex between adults reveals a willingness to totally twist and pervert scriptural truth.