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"i thought i posted 2 quotes." Okay, let me check: “That which we must say to the world is that we worship a god, but it is the god that one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th...

"if they are all fake crazy talk conspiracy theories then what in the world did this guy do to get so many people coming after him with fake stories. " He joined the Masons. For some reason, that seems to go with the territory for some people.

"ALL of these quotes?" Where do you come from with that comment. You cited ONE quote, not several, and the one quote you DID cite, apparently you got it from "conspiracy groups" and NOT from Albert Pike. Why don't you do this for me: if you are so certain that what you quoted came from...

I thought you were talking about Pike's writings, not Leo Taxil's. What you just quoted has long ago been debunked, I can't believe people are still susceptible to this garbage. This one is famous, known as the Taxil Hoax, perpetrated by Leo Taxil in the 1880's, and thereafter admitted by the...

Such as?

I get more comments about my book collection than about anything else I own, when it comes time for moving once again, which I've done frequently as a pastor. It seems the people who are inclined to help on those moves are never fond of helping when it comes time to move the office materials...

Not true. "God" is simply the anglicized form of a non-specific term for deity, as as may be noted from other religions and languages. For example: Deus--Latin Theos--Greek Allah--Arabic Latin still had a "generic" word despite the many named Roman gods; Greek still had a "generic" despite...

Could you share a source for this information? Because I can assure you it's incorrect, the word carries no such meaning, implied or actual.

Speaking of SC Masonry, which of course is all that the LSME could hope to be addressing, that's not only exactly what I "think," it's exactly what I KNOW. I can't count the times I've pointed out exactly this point to you, that the lessons in all three degrees are Bible-based, and when they do...

*Heh* That's antimasonic double-speak, tw. What Skip actually means by that is, he's stuck for an answer to my most recent post to him. It's much simpler, by the way, to end a conversation with an anti, all you have to do is point out the truth of the matter, and suddenly they avoid answering.

So true, as amply evidenced once again by our resident anti.

So, one of the more pertinent points made, is irrelevant? And simply because the Skipmeister says so? Nothing you just stated changes the fact that the booklet is optional; in the same manner, nothing you just stated changes the fact that it doesn't seem to be very popular, given the lack of...

Seems you forgot about its "optional" status. Not sure what you "updated," but if it had anything to do with statements from SC Ahiman Rezon, the AR takes precedence, of course.

No, what you found there (which is an appendix from a historical section of AR, truth to be told), is a statement of principles that apply to Freemasonry in general. It in no way supersedes the SPECIFIC DECLARATIONS of Ahiman Rezon itself, in the monitorial, constitution, and code sections...

Wow, what a spin. You totally blow by the fact that the Bible IS the Great Light, as it says. But you miss the boat with calling "the Sacred Book of the Law" a literal book. And you miss the boat even worse when you try to say the term is merely "another name for the VSL." The term is...

My experiences on a number of forums, but especially this one, tell me different. The real winner is the one you never hear from on forum. Occasionally one of them will PM me and tell me, "You know, I always figured there was another side to this, but all you ever see and hear are the...

Always got more for you:

No, you're responsible for your claims to have cited "exactly," which you clearly did not. Had you done so, you might have avoided your usual ambiguity. And thank you for not disappointing me. As I reviewed the post before entering it, I accurately predicted what your primary response would...

That's just it, you didn't cite it the same. In the citation as I posted it I included the author's name, Ray V. Denslow, you did not do so. When I scrolled up from post #3, therefore, the Missouri Lodge of Research quote from their present-day website was what you appeared to be quoting...

"Their" religion? You seem to forget Pike was a Christian. Goes a long way in explaining why he would be presenting the Christian interpretation, don't you think? He does the same thing with the 18th degree Scottish Rite (Rose Croix) which is clearly a Christian degree. Here we go again...