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Vambram

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That YECs on CF don't seem to know much about biology

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Although Darwinists often talk about the central importance of “evolution” in gaining a basic understanding of the natural world, my research reveals that the daily work of both scientific education (and in most scientific research), evolution is rarely mentioned or even a concern. This has been my own experience as a research associate involved in cancer research in the department of experimental pathology at the Medical College of Ohio and a college professor in the life and behavioral science area for over 30 years. As Conrad E. Johanson, Ph.D. (Professor of Clinical Neurosciences and Physiology and Director of Neurosurgery Research at Brown Medical School in Rhode Island) noted, in the world of science research on a day-to-day basis, scientists

"rarely deal directly with macroevolutionary theory, be it biological or physical. For example, in my 25 years of neuroscience teaching and research I have only VERY rarely had to deal with natural selection, origins, macroevolution, etc. My professional work in science stems from rigorous training in biology, chemistry, physics, and math, not from world views about evolution. I suspect that such is the case for most scientists in academia, industry, and elsewhere (2003. p. 1)."
The renown carbene chemist, Professor emeritus Dr. Philip Skell of Pennsylvania State University, did a survey of his colleagues that were “engaged in non-historical biology research, related to their ongoing research projects” and found that the “Darwinist researchers” he interviewed in answer to the question “Would you have done the work any differently if you believed Darwin’s theory was wrong?” found that the answers “for the large number” of those persons he questioned, “differing only in the amount of hemming and hawing” was “in my work it would have made no difference,” and some added they thought it would for others (2003. p. 1). Of interest is Molecular, Cell and Development Biology majors at Yale University graduate school will no longer be required to take courses on evolution (Hartman, 2003).
 
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Creationism has a very clear and rational understanding of biology.

Hahahaha. No.

One does not have to be an evolutionist in order to have a rational, clear, and scientific understanding of biology.

There's really no understanding in biology without evolution. Creationism is mere assertion.
 
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There's really no understanding in biology without evolution. Creationism is mere assertion.
I am 100% absolutely certain that this quoted opinion is 100% incorrect. Macro-evolution is a failed teaching.
 
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I am 100% absolutely certain that this quoted opinion is 100% incorrect. Macro-evolution is a failed teaching.
Still, it is an explanation for the diversity of life on Earth which has not been contradicted by the evidence found so far and there is no credible alternative explanation. So it's not a complete failure.
 
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Still, it is an explanation for the diversity of life on Earth which has not been contradicted by the evidence found so far and there is no credible alternative explanation.
Interpreting the scientific evidence through the viewpoint of Creationism does the same thing. In my opinion, it is a far more effective viewpoint and method of interpretation than evolutionism.
 
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Interpreting the scientific evidence through the viewpoint of Creationism does the same thing. In my opinion, it is a far more effective viewpoint and method of interpretation than evolutionism.
And what is this "viewpoint of creationism?"
 
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And what is this "viewpoint of creationism?"
One omnipotent, omniscient Creator Who is the One and only designer of all of the wonderful and awesome complexities in what the humanists would call Nature.
 
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One omnipotent, omniscient Creator Who is the One and only designer of all of the wonderful and awesome complexities in what the humanists would call Nature.
Christians and other theists who accept the theory of evolution already do that. It doesn't change the theory any.
 
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Macro-evolution is a failed teaching.

What are it's teachings and where are they failed? Where has it been falsified?

P.S. Even if the modern synthesis - the current understanding of the Theory of Evolution - was falsified as the explanation of the history and current diversity of life, whatever replaces it is still going to be a evidence-based, testable and fasifiable naturalistic explanation.
 
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I am 100% absolutely certain that this quoted opinion is 100% incorrect. Macro-evolution is a failed teaching
This is strongly suggestive of the fact that your investigation of the theory is woefully inadequate and almost certainly not based on evidence. Such a level of confidence is by itself unscientific. Any examples you post of scientists who have claimed 100% certainty are either using bombast to make a point, or are very poor scientists. Were you just being bombastic?
 
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I am 100% absolutely certain that this quoted opinion is 100% incorrect. Macro-evolution is a failed teaching.

Any time I see someone use the word "teaching" as a noun my dogma alarm goes off.* "A teaching" is a part of a dogma, and science isn't a dogma. It doesn't have "teachings".

*In this case an anti-science, creationist dogma was detected.
 
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Interpreting the scientific evidence through the viewpoint of Creationism does the same thing. In my opinion, it is a far more effective viewpoint and method of interpretation than evolutionism.
How many Noble winners in biology subscribe to creationism?
 
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I am 100% absolutely certain that this quoted opinion is 100% incorrect. Macro-evolution is a failed teaching.
If that is the case, it will be very easy for you to provide empirical data that is is contradiction with the Theory of Evolution.
 
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One omnipotent, omniscient Creator Who is the One and only designer of all of the wonderful and awesome complexities in what the humanists would call Nature.
Interpreting the scientific evidence through the viewpoint of Creationism does the same thing. In my opinion, it is a far more effective viewpoint and method of interpretation than evolutionism.
And here we see the anti science at work. It is shoehorning the evidence with in a preconceived conclusion in stead of reaching a conclusion after having examined the available evidence. No scientist will interpret the data through an evolutionary viewpoint. it is the evidence that lead to that conclusion.

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