Looking like twice divorced...

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I am new here. I guess I am looking for advice and support like most. I am not in a good place as my second marriage comes to an end. I recently found that my wife who moved out two months ago (a separation we both needed) has had sex with someone. So for me that ends a chance of coming back together and its just a matter of paperwork now. Here is my story...
I grew up in a Christian home. I am a Pastors son actually. As great as my upbringing was i back slid in college. I never had developed a relationship with Christ on my own. I was married at 26 to a woman i loved very much. My oldest was 4 and my son 2 when I found out she was having an affair. There was two years of counseling and attempts at fixing the marriage but eventually she left me for the other man. They are married today. That is behind me and thanks to the power of forgiveness and God we all get along now. We work together to raise the kids the best we can.
So that was my first marriage....
After my first marriage failed I was a mess. I began to date a lot of different women and eventually moved in with a girlfriend. She had two daughters of her own. My one step daughter was in a church daycare. The first time i picked her up i was invited to church. from the moment i walked in the church I felt it was time to come home. I rededicated my life to the lord, was baptized and have been serving the lord since. It defines me and I am more in love with him than i can express. Everything about me changed. My girlfriend wasn't on board but she was happy i was happy. But I knew I had to change how we were living. After some counseling I gave her the choice. we live in separate houses, continue dating with no sex, break up, or get married. i didnt know what else to do. I wanted to follow Christ. She was furious. After she calmed down she chose marriage. We got married two days later. The marriage lasted two years and was brutal. i was walking out my Christian faith and she was working against most of the time. Our belief systems are opposite on almost everything. I was raising two kids Christian and two i wasn't allowed to teach about god or pray with. All the political and culture issues we are on opposite side. I was praying for god to touch her. We did secular counseling and church counseling. For awhile she was going to church and things were better. She bought a bible and seemed to be turning a corner. it didn't last though and one day she told me she wasn't a Christian, never would be and didn't want her girls to be. The marriage only got harder. The big fights started about two months before she moved out. They were almost daily. I found myself losing my temper. My first wife told me she never saw me like this in our whole marriage. I never yelled at her even when i found about about her cheating. With my second wife the frustration was so high I would find myself screaming. Many times we both said we were done. But when i got on my knees i would always go get her and commit myself to her and our marriage. Apologize and ask for forgiveness. The last time this happened i just let her go. She moved out. I left the door open that she could come back as long as she wasn't with another man. Not to live together right way but to work on the marriage. I was still married. I had planned to give her space and give God time to work. After two months i believe God spoke to me that she had been with another man. I called and asked. She said she was.
So that is where I am at now. On the road to a second divorce. I guess if she repented and gave her life to Christ anything can happen but right now she feels she has done nothing wrong because we are separated. That's how different our beliefs are.
I was OK when we were separated but now that she has had sex with someone the pain is sinking in. I am chasing depression away and feeling very lonely. I am keeping myself busy with various ministry's and going on a mission trip. I have asked her to divorce me so I can move on but she is in no hurry because separation is the same as divorce to her. So thats where im at....struggling
 

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I'm so sorry for all that you are going through. It is very destructive when one spouse believes their actions are not wrong. That gives them no personal boundaries for themselves, no moral compass. Their good choices are based on what will benefit them, rather than what is right or respectful.

You can heal from this though. It takes time, but it does happen.
 
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Hi Dingerdad, Welcome to CF.
Sorry to hear things have turned out that bad.
Just as with the 1st divorce, things will improve over time. Tho I suspect your relationship with the 2nd wife will never become as healthy as the 1st.
 
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As a fellow Christian who was also cheated on, I'm so sorry. It's heartbreaking, and so hard to get past. It's also EXTREMELY hard when one believes in the Lord and the other is the total opposite. I'm in the process of divorce, also- though it's my first one. Many prayers to you. It's hard not to feel lonely, I understand!
 
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While I don't think it would be appropriate to comment on your unfortunate situation in any detail, as a divorced man I will say that I made the mistake of marrying a modern, intelligent, well-educated, ambitious, atheistic, secular humanist type of woman, for all the wrong reasons, and paid the price. Women with those characteristics are championed as the ideal in popular culture. We are told that that is how women should be nowadays. Alas, those characteristics don't do anything for the institution of marriage. If anything, they are in combination likely to harm your marriage.

I agree that your marriage is over once your separated wife has engaged in sexual activity with another man; a position which is not at odds with the Bible. Trying to rekindle the fire thereafter would be a very undignified approach, likely to end badly for you. She would not respect you for accepting her back into your life after she had engaged in such a sacred act with another man while still married to you. Since a woman's love is driven by her respect for a man, that's a problem; there's no coming back from that.

Sadly for women they often find that adulterous sex is a big mistake for them in the long term. Until my ex wife had sex with another man, I continued to entertain the idea that we might reunite. Afterwards, it was all over for me. It was not very painful, but something instantly changed in my heart; I just knew it was wrong to get back with her after that, and it freed me to some degree. It was she who really suffered for her indiscretions. She deeply regrets it, because she knows it was an act of impurity - a few minutes of pleasure shared with a man who did not love her, that sabotaged her future and lowered her value forever. She now insists that she will never remarry and generally avoids dating. What's more is that her reaction to her own adultery suggests that she still had something of a moral compass in her soul, but it sounded the alarm bells too late - only after sex failed to secure a loving commitment from a man, not before. Such a waste.

Despite my ex wife's somewhat traditional upbringing, I believe she came to reject traditional family and marital values because adherence to them in her early adulthood had not rewarded her as she thought she deserved. The trendy new age ideas of feminism, with their promises of material reward and "equality" with men, were far more appealing.

My marriage occurred during a time when I had turned my back on God and the teachings of the Bible. Arrogantly believing that I knew better, I ignored all the warnings in the Bible and also pursued more of a new age approach. There were Bibles on my bookshelf the whole time and churches within walking distance, but not once did I consult their wisdom. Instead, I leaped into a terrible situation. When the marriage was in trouble, I now know that there were Biblical, church and other resources upon which I could have drawn in an attempt to save the marriage, but still I did not. By the time I realised where I had gone wrong and why, it was too late. Now, the trail of destruction will haunt me forever to some extent. However, it's not the end of the world. We men were built to push through adversity and emerge victorious, given the appropriate commitment.

The key is to ensure that it does not happen again. Unfortunately, that's easier said than done.

In my view, the only the way forward for Christians in the modern western world is to stick to more conservative Christian women who truly believe the teachings of the Bible regarding marriage, and to apply them ourselves. Otherwise, if things go down hill, divorce will be too tempting, especially for the wife in whose favour the courts will normally rule. Stats show that the majority of divorces are initiated by women, and I believe this also applies to marriages of "nominal" Christians. With the awful marriage situation facing men, a real commitment to traditional religious values from both partners might make the difference between success and failure.
 
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Oh, I am so sorry to hear about the challenges you’re facing in your marriage. Your situation reminds me of my sister, and I know how painful this experience can be. I think it would be a good idea if you can seek counseling again regarding this – may be it can help you walk through these trying times? I will certainly be praying for you. Remember that you have tremendous worth in the sight of God. You are His child, and He has created you for a particular purpose; as the Bible says in Jeremiah 29:11. May His grace and peace be with you.
 
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