Men that are the housemakers?

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I was wondering if I could get some feedback from men who God has called to be the homemakers within a married relationship. This could mean that your wife is the primary bread winner within your family, or you have the responsibility for whatever reason to raise children or keep the house while the wife works. How has this worked for you? Women, please give your input if this situation applies to your family too. Thanks in advance!
 

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My husband is a "househusband" since he got sick and had to stop working. He's always been a better housekeeper than I am. When I was growing up and when I was single...it was often said that the only thing domestic about me is that I live in a house. When we first started co-habitating, I was vacuuming...he didn't like the way I was doing it so I told him he could do it, and he's done it ever since. I was and am the main breadwinner...been the most "career-conscious" of the two of us. Its not a big deal at all for us.

I know there are men who get a lot of "stuff" for being the househusband and to those who like to talk smack about it...shut up.
 
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I was laid off and raised my kids. Even befor that I was the lower wage earner. We are no longer married. I believe in part because she lost respect for me, even though it was what she wanted and I am the better parent. I'm sure it would work for other marriages, but didn't end up working in mine.
 
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I was wondering if I could get some feedback from men who God has called to be the homemakers within a married relationship. This could mean that your wife is the primary bread winner within your family, or you have the responsibility for whatever reason to raise children or keep the house while the wife works. How has this worked for you? Women, please give your input if this situation applies to your family too. Thanks in advance!


Whom 'God has called' to be house husbands? I'd be careful about throwing that terminology around. I'm not saying it isn't possible. In general, men should be working to provide for their wives and family. The Bible talks about a man providing for his own.

I spent many years in grad school working toward a PhD. That was really rough. For part of the time I was not working outside of the home, living on borrowings against future earnings. I've also gone through times of unemployment. My unemployment could be really stressful for my wife. She's gotten better about being stressed through the years of grad school as the Lord has provided and taken care of us in a number of ways. We both worked together on a business during part of the time, and I've had a few jobs, including low-paying grad assistant work. Though one research job I had, short-term, paid reasonably okay.

I think it is tough on a lot of women for their husbands to stay home. It's hard to keep the right mindset, to submit to their husbands when they are bringing home the bacon. Maybe some of them have a harder time respecting their husbands.

There are, of course, unique situations. Some men have health problems and end up staying home. Or the husband is older and she's still working. He retires and takes care of the house... after putting in years providing for the family and then helping support the family with the retirement he already paid into while he was working. I'm not saying that is wrong, but it comes with its own set of challenges.
 
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I think it is tough on a lot of women for their husbands to stay home. It's hard to keep the right mindset, to submit to their husbands when they are bringing home the bacon. Maybe some of them have a harder time respecting their husbands.

You do realize that this idea is not terribly common outside a certain subset of Christianity, right?

Mr. RPD has been home for close to 5 years now...our marriage is just as stable as any other. I like that he stays home. He's a better housekeeper than I'd ever be (I'm naturally messy and disorganized, he isn't). If he was working too, I'd have to hire another housekeeper.
 
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I was laid off and raised my kids. Even before that I was the lower wage earner. We are no longer married. I believe in part because she lost respect for me, even though it was what she wanted and I am the better parent. I'm sure it would work for other marriages, but didn't end up working in mine.
That may be more of a reflection on her, rather than on the dynamic you two had (do you know what I mean?). It sounds like it was the best thing for your children.
 
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The Bible talks about a man providing for his own.

.....there are other (equally important) ways to provide. Skierbri was there for his children as they were growing up. IMO---that's something that is far more important than the $$ .

I think it is tough on a lot of women for their husbands to stay home. It's hard to keep the right mindset, to submit to their husbands when they are bringing home the bacon. Maybe some of them have a harder time respecting their husbands.

It sounds like what you're describing is more of a dynamic of power (he/she who makes the money has the power)---not really about respect. That shouldn't be the dynamic in a marriage (especially a Christian marriage). It *should* be about mutual respect and team work (and each doing what they're most qualified and available to do at that season in life).

Before we had children, my husband had been laid off for a while. He was a wonderful (and way more efficient) housekeeper and organizer (not my strong areas--at all). I even volunteered to work on Saturdays after our daughter was born so that he could have his one on one time with her (and it was so nice coming home to a clean house--and lots of times---freshly baked cookies. Something I never did.). It was good for everyone, I think.
 
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It sounds like what you're describing is more of a dynamic of power (he/she who makes the money has the power)---not really about respect. That shouldn't be the dynamic in a marriage (especially a Christian marriage). It *should* be about mutual respect and team work (and each doing what they're most qualified and available to do at that season in life).

If there's an issue with some sort of power struggle in marriage (which is what I see when men start using the "s" word) then there's a problem no matter what model of marriage you have. It has everything to do with MATURITY, not who's bringing home the fatter paycheck.

I've always been the "breadwinner" in my marriage. That doesn't change that I love and respect my husband (especially now). He's endured things that would probably have broken me, and he is the strongest person I know. He's also the most gentle person I know. He doesn't need to "demand" respect by virtue of being a man, he has earned my respect in how he has changed his life since certain events in the past. I honestly don't care if he ever works again, he will have my undying love and respect whether or not he brings home a paycheck. Admittedly, I do like that he does the housework because I hate doing it. I cook (he's a lousy cook) and take care of our cars, he does the rest. Is there a problem because I do the "male" thing of working on the cars? Nope...he is not good at it and hates it. So...we both work to our strengths. THAT's what makes a marriage work, not some goofy idea of "gender roles" that are forced upon people by outside forces instead of letting each person develop and work towards their strengths.
 
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My husband and I have done a variety of things over the years; I've been the bread winner, he's been the breadwinner, we've both worked part time. Right now I work four days a week and he works two, and we share the child rearing and domestic stuff between us.

The big challenge for him, I think, is finding ways to feel like he's doing something "worthwhile." (Not that I don't think domestic and child care stuff is worthwhile, but our society has devalued it for so long that it's easy to feel lost and diminished in it - something I struggle with too). So he does better when he has some work, even if that's a bit of consulting from home, than when he has no paid work at all.

He also does better when he has time and space to pursue his own interests and hobbies. Since our daughter was born he has written a novel, and even though there have been times I've resented the time that's taken, it's been important for me to see that as important and give him the support to do it.

The other thing that's been an adjustment has been the money thing; not that either of us feel diminished when the other earns more, but it's easier to feel financially vulnerable when you're not the one bringing in much of the money. So we had to do a fair bit of careful work on how we budget and communicate about money, to help manage that anxiety.

Some things are easier if you're prepared to pay to reduce stress levels. I'm prepared to pay for a cleaner to come through every so often, so that I don't get upset that he doesn't keep the home to my standard. And he needs to see why a clean home is important to me and accept the expense, since he isn't keen to do the work himself. That wouldn't be an answer for everyone but it helps our marriage.

I'm fortunate that he's always accepted my vocation to ministry and supported it, and therefore the flip side that as my husband, he has to do some of the stuff that makes that work. I don't think many husbands would have that level of humility and love.
 
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If there's an issue with some sort of power struggle in marriage (which is what I see when men start using the "s" word) then there's a problem no matter what model of marriage you have. It has everything to do with MATURITY, not who's bringing home the fatter paycheck.

I never said all women are mature. Some women have a problem submitting to their husbands if he is not bringing home the paycheck. Others have trouble submitting even if he isn't.
 
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Why would I want to "submit"? I'm a grown woman who knows how to negotiate life. I don't need a boss at home. I'm capable of making decisions all by myself. But...knowing that I have a partner, I discuss certain things with him. Other things I don't. And he certainly doesn't feel that " being the boss" is integral to his manhood. Men who are hell bent on demanding submission are the insecure types who can't handle a woman who is independent and doesn't "need" a man. I got married because I loved my husband, not because I needed someone to support me financially.
 
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Not that I don't think domestic and child care stuff is worthwhile, but our society has devalued it for so long that it's easy to feel lost and diminished in it - something I struggle with too
This is an excellent point (your entire post was excellent, actually). One of the most difficult lessons for me to learn was to not be concerned about what everyone else thinks.....they aren't accountable for the decisions my husband and I make (they won't endure any consequences of any ill advice they may give).
 
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Why would I want to "submit"?

Because the New Testament teaches it. Because the apostles Jesus sent taught it. Because Peter, who was among those to whom Jesus told to disciple the nations, teaching them all things He had commanded them, taught it.

Because God knows better than we do, no matter what excuses or reasons we come up with.
 
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Why would I want to "submit"? I'm a grown woman who knows how to negotiate life.
Everyone has to submit to someone - a flesh and blood human - if they are serious about obeying the bible.

Yes, husbands need to submit as well:

Hebrews 13:17 Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they keep watch over your souls as those who will give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with grief, for this would be unprofitable for you.

Men who are hell bent on demanding submission are the insecure types who can't handle a woman who is independent and doesn't "need" a man.
Every "hell bent" man needs to ask himself is he the example in this? Is he submitting TO THE SAME DEGREE to his congregational leaders that he desires from his wife?
 
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I REALLY don't want to get into this whole "submission" thing anymore. In a nutshell, this is what it means:
Man does what his church buddies do
Woman becomes man's doormat
Man is on ego trip by virtue of a Y chromosome and some "biblical" baloney
Man thinks he is the ruler
Woman is treated like a child.

I'm 52 years old...all grown up. A boss at work is NOT the same as a husband being "the boss" at home. Boss at work signs my paychecks...at home, if my husband would want me to "submit" to his "authority", he'd better be prepared to sign over HIS paycheck to me. I don't do anything for free.
 
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I REALLY don't want to get into this whole "submission" thing anymore. In a nutshell, this is what it means:
I know that version of "what it means." That is why I studied it out.

If it is to go the way you say it should ALSO be this way:

Man becomes pastor's doormat
Pastor and elders are on ego trip by virtue of some "biblical" baloney
Pastor thinks he is the ruler
Man is treated like a child.

If the husband is not willing to go that route, he has no place to demand it from anyone else
 
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I was wondering if I could get some feedback from men who God has called to be the homemakers within a married relationship. This could mean that your wife is the primary bread winner within your family, or you have the responsibility for whatever reason to raise children or keep the house while the wife works. How has this worked for you? Women, please give your input if this situation applies to your family too. Thanks in advance!
Bill...if you're still reading here after how this thread has turned out, you may want to search for blogs written by stay-at-home dads (I know there's quite a few, but I don't know of one specific one to point you towards).
 
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I REALLY don't want to get into this whole "submission" thing anymore. In a nutshell, this is what it means:
Man does what his church buddies do
Woman becomes man's doormat
Man is on ego trip by virtue of a Y chromosome and some "biblical" baloney
Man thinks he is the ruler
Woman is treated like a child.

The Bible tells wives to submit to their husbands. Wives are to do this as unto the Lord. It doesn't tell men to get on an ego trip and to step on their wives.

I'm 52 years old...all grown up. A boss at work is NOT the same as a husband being "the boss" at home. Boss at work signs my paychecks...at home, if my husband would want me to "submit" to his "authority", he'd better be prepared to sign over HIS paycheck to me. I don't do anything for free.

I think your comments illustrate my point that some women would find it difficult to submit to a stay-at-home husband who isn't out earning money for the family.
 
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I do not "submit" to anyone. I'm grown and can govern my own behavior. I make decisions on my own, capable of looking out for the interests of everyone involved. That "submission" stuff would have worked just dandy when I was making life or death decisions for my husband...ya know?
You spend WAY too much time pushing the submission agenda...and honestly I think you are beating that drum to hide something.
 
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