Number of the beast

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Hi have a Blessed day everyone.

I'm unsure about the number of the beast (666).

Revelation 13:18 says:

"This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666."

2 Chronicles 9:13 says:

"Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was 666 talents of gold,"

So what I've read is that 6 is the number of imperfection, that's how we get 666. I started to have a fear of this number, and when I saw this number (Bar codes, games, working with number etc.) I became anxious. But after reading 2 Chronicles 9:13 I am unsure. Maybe we should not have a fear of this number or any numbers. Am I right? King Solomon had 666 talents of gold in one year. It is the same number but in there there is nothing wrong with this number.

What do you think? Should we be careful if we ever see this number?
 

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Hi have a Blessed day everyone.

I'm unsure about the number of the beast (666).
*Many people are.

Revelation 13:18 says:

"This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666."

2 Chronicles 9:13 says:

"Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was 666 talents of gold,"

So what I've read is that 6 is the number of imperfection, that's how we get 666. I started to have a fear of this number, and when I saw this number (Bar codes, games, working with number etc.) I became anxious. But after reading 2 Chronicles 9:13 I am unsure. Maybe we should not have a fear of this number or any numbers. Am I right? King Solomon had 666 talents of gold in one year. It is the same number but in there there is nothing wrong with this number.

*It's also a page number in many books...including
the Bible.

A believer is to look to, believe and rely on our Savior.
No one can pluck us out of His hand.
There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ.


What do you think? Should we be careful if we ever see this number?

* The number of the beast, other events in Revelation...
I'm of the mind...this should spur us onto be about
sharing the gospel...being a "light" in this dark world.
Getting folks saved...

 
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Zoleee

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Thank you for your answer.

My main question is, how should a Christian act whenever meet this number? On a bar code, or on a score, on a price or anywhere?

Should we be scared and avoid it? Or should we even care? Or is it just a number, and without any satanic reference we should not even care?
 
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the number isn't evil; the beast it identifies is. if you see this number on a barcode, it's just a number. if you see this number associated with a man, it's just a number. if you see this number associated with a really popular false god that the world is going after, it might be a confirmation of the identity of the devil's bunch; but it's still just a number. the number doesn't identify the evil, the Holy Spirit will reveal this evil to you IF it comes in your lifetime - the number merely helps to confirm the identity of the evil.

but there's zero reason for you to fear the devil, even in the end times; because you are an 'overocomer':

Rev 12:10-11 KJV
(10) And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
(11) And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

you overcome the devil by resting in the righteousness you have as a result of Christs' blood shed for you, and by your testimony of God's protection for the righteous in Christ (of which you are one by faith in His grace); and you lose your fear for the loss of this mortal life through realizing that you have eternal life :)
 
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King Solomon had 666 talents of gold in one year
King Solomon is the type for the rich fool who wrought much fruit of the fields and put them into his barns, to whom also the Spirit said: "Though fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?". Solomon have likewise owned his "fields", this time the field being his entire nation, and the enslaved nations, and the "fruit" being the "yield" of it, this time financial.

But what is a work of our hands: firstly the fools, secondly the Solomon's (I mean Solomon did labour to bring all this wealth about, by using his head if not his hands), and thirdly in general? It is a creation of our hands. It is something we make, whether with the help of our field, and with the help of God sending rain. Please see this reply I made to someone about how 6 symbolizes everything created (e.g. false doctrines for salvation, good works, which are also creations of our hands, whether with God's help or not), because God's creation process lasted six days. And how faith in false doctrines mark one with 666: http://www.christianforums.com/thre...ark-of-the-beast.7932183/page-2#post-69254427
 
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Well, John had write that number, so no need to freak out about it. As 7 is a number of completion, and repetition is a matter of emphasis, (for instance, "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty"), 666 was a way of recognizing the beast. You could say it means, "he falls short, he falls short, he falls short" because 6 falls short of 7. Though many will be deceived to follow him, Christians need not be.
 
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Thank you for your answer.

My main question is, how should a Christian act whenever meet this number? On a bar code, or on a score, on a price or anywhere?
*They should act the same way when they see/meet any number on a bar code, score, price etc.
Why would a believer get upset or fear it?
We are saved,
Our trust, hope/faith etc is placed in Christ.



Should we be scared and avoid it? Or should we even care? Or is it just a number, and without any satanic reference we should not even care?

*Put on the full armor of God each day...bible study on that here:
http://www.freebiblestudyguides.org/bible-teachings/armor-of-god.htm
 
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Here's a story that goes along with your question about how we should react when we see it:
One day Elder Porphyrios had told me:

"Father Athanasios (taking me by the hand tightly), I'm blind now, my eyes do not work physically because I have cancer of the pituitary gland, but I have spiritual eyes and see. Before you leave, I want you to tell me, what did Elder Aemilianos say about 666 and the Antichrist?"

This was in the days of Chernobyl. People were upset by this and went by the dozens every day, particularly to Elder Porphyrios near Athens, asking: "What will happen? Will the Antichrist come and stamp us with 666"?

The Elder asked me: "Tell me, my child, what did Elder Aemilianos say about 666 and the Antichrist?"

I told him: "He told us in a gathering a few days ago to not worry. We should be interested in having a vibrant relationship with Christ and not give much attention to the Antichrist, because then he will become the center of our lives and not Christ."

Immediately the Elder hit his hands against his bed and said: "What did you say, my child, what did you say?! Glory to You, O God, that I found a spiritual father who agrees with me! My child, these spiritual fathers here in the world, what have they done?! They have upset souls and created many problems psychologically and with families with the 666. People in the world cannot sleep and are taking psychiatric drugs and sleeping pills in order to sleep. What is this thing? Christ does not want these things, my child. And can I tell you something?"

"What Elder?" I said.

He told me: "For us Christians, when we experience Christ there is no Antichrist. Tell me something, on this bed I sit here, can you also sit on it?"

I said to him: "No, Elder."

He asked: "Why?"

I responded: "Because if I sit on you I will crush you."

He asked again: "Will you never be able to sit here?"

I said to him: "When you leave, Elder, I can sit."

He said to me: "Precisely, my child. The same happens with our souls. When we have Christ inside us, can the Antichrist come? Can anything opposite this enter our souls? For this reason, my child, today we do not have Christ within us and because of this we worry about the Antichrist.

When Christ is within us, everything becomes Paradise. Christ is everything, my child, and the Opposer we should not fear; this you should always tell people. And let me tell you something. If the same Antichrist came now with a device that shot laser beams and sealed me by force with 666, I would not be upset. You will tell me, 'Elder, is this not the seal of the Antichrist?' Yes, but even if he wrote 666 on me a thousand times with laser beams, indelibly, I would not be upset.

Why? Because, my child, the first martyrs they cast to the wild beasts, and when they did their cross the wild beasts became like lambs. They cast them in the sea, but when they did their cross the sea became like dry land and they walked on it. They cast them in the fire, but when they did their cross the fire was cooled. My blessed child, what have we become today? Do we believe in Christ? In our cross? Why did Christ come? Didn't Christ come to strengthen us in our sicknesses?

This is what you should say to the Elder, my child. And you should tell the people to not fear the Antichrist. We are children of Christ, we are children of the Church."

All this made quite an impression on me.

And he added: "Can I tell you something?"

I said: "Please, Elder."

"Patriarch Demetrios, how did he come to Athens?"

"With an aeroplane", I said.

"Well, yes, I know he came with an aeroplane. Did you think the man swam over? With what documents?"

"With a passport, Elder", I said.

"Greek or Turkish?"

"I don't know", I said.

"Well, you play the wise man. He came with a Turkish one. And what is the emblem of Turkey, you know?"

I said: "I don't know, Elder."

"Now you have overdone it, not knowing the emblem of Turkey? It is the crescent. And do you know what the Fathers of the Church called the crescent after the appearance of Muhammad?"

"No, Elder", I said.

Jokingly he said: "Well, I should take your degree and tear it up. What kind of a theologian are you?

The crescent is a symbol of the Antichrist. If the crescent is a symbol of the Antichrist and the passport of the Patriarch has a symbol of the Antichrist (and in their seals, how many seals do they put inside and out?), does this mean our Patriarch is the Antichrist?

No, my child, no! Do not restrict the Gospel message so much! Christ is not as narrow-minded as us people who want to defend our opinions.

This is what you should tell the Elder and this is what you should tell the people: We ought not to fear the Antichrist or 666." Translated by John Sanidopoulos
http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2011/01/elder-porphyrios-we-ought-not-to-fear.html
 
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