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Thank you all for your input. Yesterday was the most I've ever seriously thought about suicide. I googled around for a while for things like "what does the bible say about suicide," etc. It didn't take long for me to understand that I'll almost certainly never reach that point.

I work in health care with samples from cancer patients, and I am always jealous of their cancer. I realize how dreadful it is for me to feel that way. These people, and their families, are suffering in ways I can't comprehend. My husband, my family, would also suffer incomprehensibly if my "wishes" were fulfilled.

Sapiens: my husband knows how I feel, my parents, a few close friends. I don't think anyone really understands. While I am successful in life (thank you Father), at heart I am a quitter. I never finish books. I never finish projects. Even the smallest amount of resistance experienced in any setting makes me want to quit. My default setting is "off." Furthermore, I find no real joy in anything in this world (except perhaps my dogs).

I've NEVER really wanted to "do" life. I want to do it less and less the further I get along in it. I'm coasting, waiting for it to be over already so I can go home. I know this is not what my Father made me for. But the knowledge doesn't seem to matter.

If anyone feels like sharing, I'd love to hear what some of your turning points were. I am seeing, as Jeshu point out, that I need to spend more time in God's word, and certainly I should become committed to asking my Savior, "What plans do you have for my life? Please place an awareness in my heart of my life's intended purpose." What were some other steps you took to break free from this?

For me, it's nothing especially spectacular. I've come to thankfully realize that some beliefs I was holding about myself were wrong. Noticeably, I believed I could never be happy again, that I was broken beyond repair (this also has to do with an antidepressant I took that did me no good at all). It was even more than that, I believed I could never feel anything ever again.

I also hated myself, thought I had failed my life, had no future, thought I was alone in the world, etc. I am still learning that it isn't true. Basically changing some thought patterns. You know, I'm just 21. So everything is still close for me in terms of chronology, my depression and my conversion too.

Keep courage!
 
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Psalm 73: 21 When my heart was grieved
and my spirit embittered,
22 I was senseless and ignorant;
I was a brute beast before you.
23 Yet I am always with you;
you hold me by my right hand.
24 You guide me with your counsel,
and afterward you will take me into glory.
25 Whom have I in heaven but you?
And earth has nothing I desire besides you.
26 My flesh and my heart may fail,
but God is the strength of my heart
and my portion forever.
27 Those who are far from you will perish;
you destroy all who are unfaithful to you.
28 But as for me, it is good to be near God.
I have made the Sovereign Lord my refuge;
I will tell of all your deeds.
Fantastic words of David, and so perfectly fitting for this discussion. Perfect.
 
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Hello,

I am new to this forum. I "grew up in the church" and have always believed in God and Jesus. I have been a TRULY sincere follower of Jesus since age 30 (I am 45 now). I am married to my best friend, we are both blessed with great jobs and health, and there is basically NOTHING amiss in my life. But I have coped with depression for a very long time. I am, for the most part, successfully treated with a combination of Prozac and Wellbutrin. But I still want so desperately to leave this world--I have for decades. Every twinge I feel, every ache or spell of light-headedness, I fervently hope is the start of a fatal disease. I have asked my Creator many, many times if I can please come home, why do I have to be here, I hate it here, I'm miserable in ways and for reasons I can't explain.

My question is, are there any other followers of Christ out there who feel the same way? Who have no real problems--physical, relational, or otherwise--but just desperately want to come home, for no apparent reason?

Thanks in advance...

I am 22 years old dealing with depression for about 10+ years now, but it feels like thousands of years lol but I know your alot older than me so you must have dealt with it for more time than me. I definitely understand how you feel, I've been dealing with suicidal thoughts at a level I can't even describe almost on a weekly basis during these past couple of months. Although I have removed anything that is harmful by me and in my room, sometimes the feelings can get pretty intense with my mental illness. But it was never completely hopeless for me, because sometimes I felt deep down that God is still there in this pit because he is my hope. I think my depression is also responsible for drawing me closer to God and developing a stronger faith.

I know you feel like life is unbearable, but I'm pretty sure there are good times in your life that you are overlooking. What are some moments you enjoyed? I always remind myself the moments that made me happy to remind me that these feelings are temporary and I'll get over feeling this way and enjoy my life once again. I definitely sometimes feel like living is a waste of time and I would rather just go to heaven instead, that sounds alot better. But I know that is contrary to God's nature, because God is always in favor of life, and I know deep down inside you don't want to end your life, just the pain.

I have took bupropion and Celexa before and I have been hospitalized. But I don't take any medication because it doesn't help me. I now drink some antidepressant herb tea or CBT therapy to help combat depression, also finding hobbies like video games and watching movies or close friends help as well. Most importantly God has helped me ALOT (had to emphasize that) and is the reason why I am still alive.

As far as God's purpose for me in life, I know is nothing short of setting an example for others going through problems and learning to overcome them through the power of faith. I may be wrong who knows :p but I do know if you end your life you are declaring life to be meaningless. I love this article from Matt Walsh (http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/there-is-nothing-brave-about-suicide/) it may be a little blunt it is none of the less true. I believe we will always find meaning amidst in our pain, God always take what the devil does for our pain and transforms it for our good, and of course this life is short compared to everlasting joy that God has planned for us. I hope this helped. Prayers and blessings to you shanonpink!
 
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My turning point was a time when I suffered so much that I couldn't take it anymore. It wasn't a yearning to die in itself, it was the suffering and confusion. I thought that I'd have to kill myself to make it stop. I have never been so broken. I just cried and hit myself because I could feel the emotional pain physically manifesting in my stomach and chest and it wouldn't stop. I prayed. I don't even remember what I prayed. Probably just help, all of it hurt too much. Only many years later I realized that I was carried. Back then I wouldn't have noticed anything.

But that turning point meant a lot, because I fully surrendered myself for the first time to God. There were absolutely no pretenses, only a broken man, "naked" in a sense. I have never in my life been so powerless and realized it. For the first time, I was absolutely nothing. Whatever love I had, whatever life or job I had, whatever decent in myself, I had lost. I could only turn to God. Fully humbled. I needed that. I was assured that there was nothing else I could turn to, because I was fundamentally broken. I was carried, and I endured, even if it took a long time. God helped me, my mother and some friends helped me. I will always remember I can turn to God.

Later, He even let me experience something...I don't know. One brother in these forums described it as "a dose of the holy spirit". Complete comfort, complete peace, all in love. I have never felt anything like that, and never have since. For a small time I felt what I thought was God, perfect love. I wanted to tell all of my close ones immediately how much I loved them. There were no worries, only love. No trouble, only peace. It's hard to describe with words, but it was perfect. It was a gift, something I want all to experience. But I can't force these things or make them happen. But what I got out of it, even now when I'm not in that moment anymore, was great. I got conviction and hope, and I got the ability to love more. My love was fearful and selfish before. Still is, at times, because I'm just a man, and weak as anyone else, but I have more love to give than I ever did. And I want to give it.

I started to read the Bible more, especially the gospels and Paul's letters. I can always, still to this day, find something new and comforting from the same things I read. I started to understand and take in the love and wisdom that is in Christ. His words have all of it, all the time. I also started to understand this: useless fear doesn't come from God. It is written that we are not given the spirit of fear. But love, especially one that doesn't seek our own benefit, that comes from God. And I have tried to be honest with Him, because I can't fool God. If something bothers me, I give it to Him in a prayer. Sometimes I ask for guidance, sometimes for something else, sometimes blessings for people. And if I don't instantly get an answer, I still leave it to God. Sometimes the answer isn't "no", it can be "wait". We need patience, because we can't test God. I can endure the doubts and harder times, because I do believe that God is love. He doesn't trick us or play games with us.

I don't know what God's plan is for me. I don't know if He even has some complicated master plan for me. And if there is a plan, it can be something very, very mundane that's easy to overlook. It could be just living my ordinary life. I'm very content in not pondering about God's plans, because how could I understand them? I'm grateful that I'm simple like this. I can say "I don't know" to many things, and still know that I can turn to God like a child.

But what I do know is this: I have plenty of chances to love every day, plenty of chances to help, plenty of chances to tell people about Christ if they want to hear it. And every time I do it, I'm more at peace, and I feel thankful. I have plenty of chances every day to say "hi" to Christ, to seek Him.

My life isn't great. I'm mostly a shut-in, and I haven't worked for about 10 years. Still, I have never loved life the way I do now. I said a prayer for you, so that you would be comforted and guided gently.

Oh and don't worry about my rants. They're always like this, too long and not very cohesive at all!
I know this post is old but I feel the same way, like for it all to stop like I have to die...ive called a hotline..they could care less, I've prayed to god and I just don't think he likes me at all ....like its not possible...my anxiety is getting worse, I'm losing my hair to alopecia and my ability to believe due to circumstances....I just feel like a mistake.
 
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I know this post is old but I feel the same way, like for it all to stop like I have to die...ive called a hotline..they could care less, I've prayed to god and I just don't think he likes me at all ....like its not possible...my anxiety is getting worse, I'm losing my hair to alopecia and my ability to believe due to circumstances....I just feel like a mistake.

Luckily, we don't control God with our thoughts. What we think or feel doesn't matter at all in that equation. We simply don't have that power. There's the hope: something else, something real, something that doesn't dance around our own emotions, or made by our own emotions. The hope that something lowly in this world can be considered precious by God.

Faith isn't just a feeling, it can also be a choice. It's naturally hard for many of us to let love and hope in. We can make every excuse for not letting it in. At the same time we let despair, bitterness, hate, hopelessness, and all kinds of dirt in our hearts, and it's always open doors. We never question them, and we think they are somehow the truth in every situation. But when it comes to hope and love, then it's an inquisition! I know this struggle well.

Why do you condemn your own prayers by saying "God doesn't like me at all"? Let prayers be prayers and full of hope, and let God be God. Surely God is something else than our own feelings of worthlessness. So pray with an honest heart, such as you are, and don't regret it, and don't condemn the receiver either. Let it be what it should: child-like hope, and giving our hopes and thanks to God in honesty.

I hope you're getting help, sister, and don't give up if you don't seem to get it.
 
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Luckily, we don't control God with our thoughts. What we think or feel doesn't matter at all in that equation. We simply don't have that power. There's the hope: something else, something real, something that doesn't dance around our own emotions, or made by our own emotions. The hope that something lowly in this world can be considered precious by God.

Faith isn't just a feeling, it can also be a choice. It's naturally hard for many of us to let love and hope in. We can make every excuse for not letting it in. At the same time we let despair, bitterness, hate, hopelessness, and all kinds of dirt in our hearts, and it's always open doors. We never question them, and we think they are somehow the truth in every situation. But when it comes to hope and love, then it's an inquisition! I know this struggle well.

Why do you condemn your own prayers by saying "God doesn't like me at all"? Let prayers be prayers and full of hope, and let God be God. Surely God is something else than our own feelings of worthlessness. So pray with an honest heart, such as you are, and don't regret it, and don't condemn the receiver either. Let it be what it should: child-like hope, and giving our hopes and thanks to God in honesty.

I hope you're getting help, sister, and don't give up if you don't seem to get it.
Hey , thanks for your answer. I just feel like my mind is beyong broken..i cant get help now..and I dont know when ill be able to...but I think my "help" is simple... If I could get my degree and be independent and just enjoy life like everyone else ..i wouldn't feel this way..but I come against so many obstacles and I feel that being in my circumstances as long as I have has ruined my mind... I honeslty dont know if my situation will get better...i try but it seems the harder I try the more walls are put up. *sigh* my life seems pointless on created to watch others soar and comfort them in their time of need and then watch them forget about me as I'm swallowed up by my own issues..it sucks.
 
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We're allowed to be broken. No matter what anyone says. And while we can't control what people do to us, we can control what we do to them. And if we can give love to those who don't love us back, we know we're not the only ones. In fact, we can see it everywhere if we take a good look, not only in our own lives. We're rarely as alone as we think. There are just walls between us.

Said a prayer for you, sister.
 
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This is a prose dealing with the topic of suffering, the cause of it and the cure for it. I hope you get something out of it.

What Can I Say About Suffering

What can I say, about what have I learned from our Heavenly Father? I can see now that evil lies cause pain to be alive within human existence. I have watched how isolation, forces lies down into suffering souls - as The Wicked cut all ties with truthful love and our crushing depression generate its own misery in our agonising hell down there. I know that in the Pit all lies end up - dragging us down living dead. Yet why would I continue to let bad life be dominant in my inner world of awareness and not God's loving truth to rule my every moment?

I have learned that creeds, values and morals are rules upon rules ruling. Still wicked lies spread like maggots through my flesh, killing all goodness within me, because I'm imperfect! To just let it be and move on is best I learned about that. And so The Word of God spoken in love for God, self and neighbour, is The Voice to heed at all times.

I have experienced that time brings good and bad, up and down, far and wide for everyone. Yet the power of God's love, as even bad sin and great failings ruled me, couldn't subdue Jesus grace over me as His loving truth set me free to be myself - time and again.

I understand that anguish speaks to those experiencing life truly untrue and lovelessly - and that our Heavenly Father never wanted this to rule His kids. Indeed I know that my wretchedness longs for the demise of all my agony. So that misery may never rule my life again, no more Bad Life overshadowing my here and now, instead freedom for me. For in God's loving truth, even through much hurt, I can finally stay on top of things, my loveless lies to hand to Christ as God's Good Life grows within in Return.

I know now that loving truth is the only useful weapon against the forces of evil. Complete freedom for me if I heed God's love in truth to rule my daily life. So why would I foolishly keep letting malefic lies decide my future. Why not forgive, why leave truthful love? While I know that only God's good makes my life a worthwhile experience?

I have seen that life is genuinely worth living in honest loving togetherness. Where everyone who exists is esteemed because they are specially made. For our real value lays not in how much gain we can yield for others. But simply because all existence speaks of life's importance to be loved. The communion of Saints - true love loving people doing the loving - is very important therefore.

So I choose loving truthfulness to steer me through those terrible storms down here. For even through extraordinary agony and times of incredible much suffering. God's truth preserves my life. His loving goodness keeping me from falling. As I found that warm-heartedness is truly effective against the deadly chill of devil's breath.
 
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Not only do I understand where you are coming from, I feel likewise. Every day of my life I feel like an alien, walking amongst people who do not speak my language, nor I theirs. I never asked to be here, was unwanted, born illegimate and if I had a say in things this would be the last place I'd come. I am not in the ' life is beautiful ' camp. With crime, child abuse, war, starvation, isolation, money problems, accidents........earth is not a nice place to be,
 
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