Press Room Stunned and Silent as Ted Cruz Related Heroin Addiction of his Half-Sister

fargonic · Feb 8, 2016

stamperben said:
Keep going... We're listening...

Ted's 3 Prong Plan is more of the same: "Market Forces = Good!"

Unfortunately that is precisely what Obamacare is, but most Republicans don't even know that. Obamacare is a market reform that keeps profit in the mix.

The real problem with Obamacare isn't that it isn't "Republican Friendly enough"...it is...the problem is that its OBAMA'S legacy. And that, as we heard in the first days of Obama's tenure, was to be fought at all costs by any means necessary.

If Obama were to start worshiping Ronald Raygun we'd probably see the GOP turn on Reagan and denounce him!

NightHawkeye · Feb 8, 2016

fargonic said:
So, we all know what Teddy's REAL goal is. Overturn Obamacare, and "hope" that Cruz-Care actually works, which we have no idea about.

OK. One has to wonder why you are arguing that Cruz-Care will fail when you admit to having no idea as to whether it will work.

Free market competition has been demonstrated time and again to improve goods and services. :oldthumbsup:

Smidlee · Feb 8, 2016

fargonic said:
The real problem with Obamacare isn't that it isn't "Republican Friendly enough"...it is...the problem is that its OBAMA'S legacy. And that, as we heard in the first days of Obama's tenure, was to be fought at all costs by any means necessary.

This is funny since even Bernie is talking about doing away with it ... maybe because it's a complete failure. Of course Bernie wants even more government control over healthcare. I believe the government will wreck healthcare just like they did with the housing market. We will end up with no one having healthcare.

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-04-30/single-payer-would-make-health-care-worse

Fantine · Feb 8, 2016

The main solution, Cruz said, does not come from the federal government but support charities and churches who can help lead the troubled to "personal transformations."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/ted-cruz-drug-addiction-story/index.html

I guess that's why it's been documented that he gives a paltry 1% of his considerable income to charity!

Hypocrite!

Nithavela · Feb 9, 2016

Heroin is soooo 90's.

How about this? Cruz repeals Obamacare, waits until the poor have suffered enough, then releases Cruzcare, which works just like Obamacare, but with the evil name filed off.

It was the republican's idea in the first place, so no harm in stealing it back. The death toll should be a little low for my taste, but what can you do?

Ana the Ist · Feb 9, 2016

NightHawkeye said:
OK. One has to wonder why you are arguing that Cruz-Care will fail when you admit to having no idea as to whether it will work.

Free market competition has been demonstrated time and again to improve goods and services.

The healthcare system isn't a "free market". Demand never goes down...so all the free market principles that should apply to lowering costs and raising quality don't work.

fargonic · Feb 9, 2016

Smidlee said:
This is funny since even Bernie is talking about doing away with it ... maybe because it's a complete failure.

If you'd actually read my post you'd see that I clearly stated that the only rational alternative to Obamacare is Single Payer.

Of course Bernie wants even more government control over healthcare. I believe the government will wreck healthcare just like they did with the housing market.

The government wrecked the housing market? You see, I thought it was the go-go-casino banking industry who found ways to make money by placing bets on people defaulting on their home loans! Silly me!

We will end up with no one having healthcare.

Or we could do what most of the developed world does. But the GOP will fight that tooth and nail because America was doing it SO GOOD that prior to Obamacare Americans paid nearly 2X as much per capita for healthcare than any other developed nation on earth and didn't even have the best performance metrics!

I can see why the GOP wants to keep that plan

NightHawkeye · Feb 9, 2016

Ana the Ist said:
The healthcare system isn't a "free market". Demand never goes down...so all the free market principles that should apply to lowering costs and raising quality don't work.

That's an interesting argument you're making about how "demand never goes down". You seem to have fallen into the trap which liberals so often do about supply being fixed. Fortunately, medical services and supply are not fixed entities. Medical services can easily be expanded and made more readily available. Medical services and supplies are, most assuredly, not part of a zero-sum game.

I merely point out that increased demand in a free market generally leads to lowered costs. That very principle has been the underpinning of civilization's advancement throughout the industrialized world for many years now. Medical goods and services though have been artificially restricted due to government interference for many years now in a manner which escalates prices unnecessarily. Removing much of that unnecessary governmental interference has the potential to allow testing, diagnosis and medical intervention to take advantage of the economies of scale so that medical care overall becomes much more affordable.

Home pregnancy testing offers just one useful example where tremendous cost savings have already been realized. Hopefully, you understand though that economy of scale offers tremendous potential for cost savings in many things medical. We are talking about people after all who are greatly similar and mostly suffer from a small number of ailments which affect large segments of the population. Diagnosis and treatment for most of these common ailments should require neither large amounts of money nor much time from a medical specialist.

Tiny Bible · Feb 9, 2016

Albion · Feb 9, 2016

fargonic said:
I didn't backtrack. Ted has been openly focused on repealing Obamacare.

As you well know, that (repeal) was never at issue.

Tiny Bible · Feb 9, 2016

In the debate Cruz revisited his older sisters tragedy in response to what he'd do to address the heroine, drug, epidemic were he elected president.

My point here is, who cares that his sister died of an OD? If anything it shows that Cruz did nothing to help her through the system of treatment programs that were available. Instead he says he took out a $20 thousand dollar cash advance on his credit cards after he started working. Not to put his sister in rehbab. But to put her son in a military academy.
That seems a bit off. Put the sister in the rehab for the price and take the nephew to raise while she's there.

He plays the emotion card before a church group as he talks about his drug addict sister and his alcoholic father. But that doesn't answer the questions for the millions of American's concerning the drug problem. Instead last minute in the video above after he reiterates the sympathy card about his sister, he falls back on referring to the programs that are already in place. And he says he'll secure the border. But the time he took to talk about his sister who's been dead for years he insured that time wasn't alloted for him to detail his answer to the debate question.

Tiny Bible · Feb 9, 2016

Albion said:
As you well know, that (repeal) was never at issue.

If Cruz strikes that pen and repeals Obama care what's he saying to those who use Obamacare for drug treatment and rehabilitation?
He strikes the pen and what takes its place?

NightHawkeye · Feb 9, 2016

Tiny Bible said:
In the debate Cruz revisited his older sisters tragedy in response to what he'd do to address the heroine, drug, epidemic were he elected president.

My point here is, who cares that his sister died of an OD? If anything it shows that Cruz did nothing to help her through the system of treatment programs that were available. Instead he says he took out a $20 thousand dollar cash advance on his credit cards after he started working.

One senses that you have never had a relative who was an addict. One's chances to help are limited.

Vylo · Feb 9, 2016

That's an interesting argument you're making about how "demand never goes down". You seem to have fallen into the trap which liberals so often do about supply being fixed.

He mentioned demand, not supply. The supply is elastic, demand is not. So when it is for profit, all you have to do is hold back supply to drive up prices and rake in money.

NightHawkeye · Feb 9, 2016

Vylo said:
He mentioned demand, not supply. The supply is elastic, demand is not. So when it is for profit, all you have to do is hold back supply to drive up prices and rake in money.

Exactly my point.

Governmental interference has a stranglehold on the supply, driving inefficiency and preventing cost-effective advancements.

Tiny Bible · Feb 9, 2016

NightHawkeye said:
One senses that you have never had a relative who was an addict. One's chances to help are limited.

Your senses are incorrect.

NightHawkeye · Feb 9, 2016

Tiny Bible said:
Your senses are incorrect.

Then I look forward to hearing your testimony about how you were able to personally help your relative turn their life around.

Tiny Bible · Feb 9, 2016

NightHawkeye said:
Then I look forward to hearing your testimony about how you were able to personally help your relative turn their life around.

Do you always dodge Cruz's responsibility by turning the issue around to what is none of your business?

Cruz made his sister and his father the business of the American people. Look forward to his testimony about what he did to help them.

Albion · Feb 9, 2016

Tiny Bible said:
If Cruz strikes that pen and repeals Obama care what's he saying to those who use Obamacare for drug treatment and rehabilitation?
He strikes the pen and what takes its place?

The point is that legislation is often changed. Usually, the new legislation that replaces the old makes provision--right in the act--for the new procedures or policies. If, for instance, a law were to be passed that changed the age of retirement for Social Security purposes, it's not as though there is going to be a lengthy time gap between claims based on the old policy and claims filed on the basis of the new one.

fargonic · Feb 9, 2016

Albion said:
As you well know, that (repeal) was never at issue.

The point being that repeal has to be followed up immediately with a workable system that is at least as good as or better than Obamacare.

Otherwise it means a de facto elimination of healthcare benefits from millions of people.

There are consequences for all actions. If Ted has a better system than Obamacare it better be REALLY good because it will have to hit the ground the very second Obamacare is repealed.

If it doesn't then it will by definition cause harm.

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