Mail Order Brides?

Goodbook · Nov 26, 2015

being quiet has nothing to do with anything.
Most women are actually chatterboxes, it doesn't matter if they are asian or not. If you both don't speak the same language obviously there's going to be less conversation.

William67 · Nov 26, 2015

TX_Matt said:
It doesn't matter how many women he could have had, what he thought of American women, or that he choose who he wanted. It's incredibly distasteful to joke about a human being shipped in a box (because human trafficking is still a very real thing today), it's a bit creepy to have a catalog of women (online dating includes a lot more than just a picture and their location), and it's desperate to go through that whole process instead of choosing celibacy.

So did the catalog. It included their name, city/province, a small profile, and what kind of man they were looking for. He was 68 and had no internet. No man with an iota of self-respect would want a woman who has slept with every man in the area. Forget about what kind of diseases she may be carrying. Would you want someone like that to be the mother of your children?

ReesePiece23 · Nov 26, 2015

Okay, I may have joked about this in the past, but never would I even entertain the idea of going through with it. (I don't understand those who do.)

And, er, say you're an unsatisfied customer and you wish to be monetarily reimbursed. Is there a customer service desk or a HR department that deals with complaints? How would that even work?

And what must the invoice look like?

Type: 'Super Saver' Latvian Bride
Age: 19 y/o
Qty: 1
Dispatch Date: 22/11/15
Price (Ex tax): £205.21
VAT: £41.02
Total Cost: £246.23

It's a mad world we live in.

William67 · Nov 26, 2015

leothelioness said:
They do still exist, though. They just might not be where you're looking. They're usually sat at home doing their own thing.

I'm probably about as traditional as they come, but I'm also not a girl about town. I'd rather be at home than partying. So, needless to say, I would be pretty hard for most guys to find.

I agree. I could have easily gone the same route as my uncle, but decided not to.

William67 · Nov 26, 2015

Cearbhall said:
Oh, I can guess, and those are exactly the sort of beliefs to which I'm referring. Not to say anything against your uncle in particular, but I find it much more likely that the problem is the man who has to mail for a wife, rather than there being something wrong with every single woman in America.

It's rather troubling for a man to have something against all the women around him.

Most of the single women around him had had multiple marriages, were of easy virtue, or were just after his money. I don't blame him for going for someone "a cut above".

SnowyMacie · Nov 26, 2015

William67 said:
No man with an iota of self-respect would want a woman who has slept with every man in the area.

Most women I know neither completely chaste nor sleep with every man possible, but are in fact somewhere in the middle.

William67 said:
Would you want someone like that to be the mother of your children?

Sexual history, as long as it wasn't cheating, is no issue with me. If she's slept with ten guys, but never two at the same time, that's better than one who has only had three partners, but two of them were at the same time. Even then, that depends on how long ago it actually happened if it would be a deal breaker. Regardless, sex is forbidden to talk about in this subforum. To be honest, I'd rather not marry a virgin.

William67 · Nov 26, 2015

Deidre32 said:
It's one thing to meet someone visiting your country from another country, and you have chemistry, and decide to begin dating...and perhaps, the person moves back to their country, and you have a long distance thing going. But, to SEEK out ONLY women over seas, is just odd to me. There are occasional success stories, but it's naive to think that women from other countries who wish to live in the states, aren't potentially opportunistic and will feign being interested in a man, in order to obtain that...I've read stories to this effect. Kind of sad.

He tried to find a woman here for many years.

William67 · Nov 26, 2015

TX_Matt said:
Most women I know neither completely chaste nor sleep with every man possible, but are in fact somewhere in the middle.

Sexual history, as long as it wasn't cheating, is no issue with me. If she's slept with ten guys, but never two at the same time, that's better than one who has only had three partners, but two of them were at the same time. Regardless, sex is forbidden to talk about in this subforum. To be honest, I'd rather not marry a virgin.

We aren't actually talking about sex. We are talking about morality and the lack thereof. It was the absolute lack of morality that led my uncle to seek out a mail order bride.

I tried to couch it in more obscure terms, but no one seemed to be following.

SnowyMacie · Nov 26, 2015

William67 said:
We aren't actually talking about sex. We are talking about morality and the lack thereof.

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William67 said:
No man with an iota of self-respect would want a woman who has slept with every man in the area. Forget about what kind of diseases she may be carrying. Would you want someone like that to be the mother of your children?

Carnegie · Nov 26, 2015

As much as I believe in moral and spiritual purity, and I really do, I also believe Jesus redeems ALL sin. Not just sins dealing with violence, dishonesty or greed or anything like that. If I don't believe that a penitent woman who committed some kind of moral sin prior to her coming to faith in Jesus is truly made clean and pure again, then I'm in just as much trouble for my non-sexual sins as she is for her sexual sins.

William67 · Nov 26, 2015

William67 said:
My aunt gave her cousin my address. (They do that sort of thing in the Philippines). Her cousin wrote me and we talked for a long time, mostly like pen pals. She also said that if she married a kano (foreigner) she would prefer to live in her home country. She absolutely didn't want to live in the US because as she once put it, "the people there give up morals".

William67 said:
That's just it. Most of the men who seek mail order brides have tried the "old fashioned" way, but unfortunately, they are also looking for old fashioned women. Those are as scarce as hens teeth in the US.

William67 said:
That isn't what they are doing. It is absolutely no different than a dating site. These women aren't forced into this. They chose to seek a foreign husband for many, many different reasons. Two reasons are that domestic violence and alcohol abuse is rampant in many countries. Most of the Filipinas I know don't want to live in the US because the US is too "liberated". They understand the reasons why these men are seeking foreign brides. And believe me, most of the Philippine women I have talked to have an extremely low opinion of the morals of American women.

William67 said:
How shall I put this? They consider "liberated" to be the same as "morally bankrupt". Its just the nice way of putting it.

You know how right wing I am? Lets just say that I would be like a liberal/progressive there.

Catch words like "liberated", "old fashioned", and "morally bankrupt".

William67 · Nov 26, 2015

Carnegie said:
As much as I believe in moral and spiritual purity, and I really do, I also believe Jesus redeems ALL sin. Not just sins dealing with violence, dishonesty or greed or anything like that. If I don't believe that a repentant woman who committed some kind of moral sin prior to her coming to faith in Jesus is truly made clean and pure again, then I'm in just as much trouble for my non-sexual sins as she is for her sexual sins.

Forgiveness of your sins will not stop you from spreading HIV/AIDS and unintentionally killing your spouse or some other disease and causing your children to have birth defects.

leothelioness · Nov 26, 2015

TX_Matt said:
Actually, that used to totally be a thing in Texas! Back in the 50s and such when drive-in food places were popular, high schoolers would go hang out there and girls would go park their cars and guys would drive around to see who they liked.

That sounds like fun actually. I wish people still did this.

Carnegie · Nov 26, 2015

William67 said:
Forgiveness of your sins will not stop you from spreading HIV/AIDS and unintentionally killing your spouse or some other disease and causing your children to have birth defects.

No it won't but let's be realistic, that's not a major likelihood. If it did come to that though, it would be something I thought hard about.

leothelioness · Nov 26, 2015

William67 said:
I agree. I could have easily gone the same route as my uncle, but decided not to.

So are you at the point now where you're just waiting? Or do you wish to expand your horizons a bit?

Toro · Nov 26, 2015

leothelioness said:
That sounds like fun actually. I wish people still did this.

Look, I already told ya I'll let ya drive my car if I find myself in your neck of the woods. You don't need to go giving a guy your hand just so you can drive his car.

Although, it WOULD be a way to make more men know how to work on their cars these days. "A woman will see my car before I even get a first date out of it?"

Not to mention the cars would be cleaner..... it would make buying a used car a lot more awesome if you knew half the population cared for their car like it was the only thing that got them dates. One less thing to worry about for those of us that hate new cars or that possess logic of why pay 40k for a car thats worth 20k the second you agree to pay the 40k.

Or youd see a lot more of this....

SnowyMacie · Nov 26, 2015

leothelioness said:
That sounds like fun actually. I wish people still did this.

I know, right?

leothelioness · Nov 26, 2015

Toro said:
Look, I already told ya I'll let ya drive my car if I find myself in your neck of the woods. You don't need to go giving a guy your hand just so you can drive his car.

Although, it WOULD be a way to make more men know how to work on their cars these days. "A woman will see my car before I even get a first date out of it?"

Not to mention the cars would be cleaner..... it would make buying a used car a lot more awesome if you knew half the population cared for their car like it was the only thing that got them dates. One less thing to worry about for those of us that hate new cars or that possess logic of why pay 40k for a car thats worth 20k the second you agree to pay the 40k.

Or youd see a lot more of this....

If he has a sports car, I WILL be driving it at some point. He'll just have to get used to it.

Toro · Nov 26, 2015

leothelioness said:
If he has a sports car, I WILL be driving it at some point. He'll just have to get used to it.

Of course he will, but you do know a bull that loves cars, is in the market for a V8 and is about 15 years away from an official midlife crisis........ so.... if I find myself in your area any time from this point on...... you know youll get to drive something awesome and not stock.

While it DOES make sense to date for the car...... you knowing the bull means you can aim for a quality man and just drive the car of the bull. ^_^

leothelioness · Nov 26, 2015

Toro said:
Of course he will, but you do know a bull that loves cars, is in the market for a V8 and is about 15 years away from an official midlife crisis........ so.... if I find myself in your area any time from this point on...... you know youll get to drive something awesome and not stock.

While it DOES make sense to date for the car...... you knowing the bull means you can aim for a quality man and just drive the car of the bull.

Sounds like a plan.

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