Which of three conversations would you have with Jesus in Heaven? How born, made, or decided?

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Hi there,

There is a simple question at the heart of this thread: which of three conversations would you have with Jesus in Heaven: how the One was born, how the One was made, or how the One decided ____?

I am interested to know if you either (know the verse I am refering to ____ ____) or the meaning of (choosing a particular way to relate to the One ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ()). Thanks.
 

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Hi there,

There is a simple question at the heart of this thread: which of three conversations would you have with Jesus in Heaven: how the One was born, how the One was made, or how the One decided ____?

I am interested to know if you either (know the verse I am refering to ____ ____) or the meaning of (choosing a particular way to relate to the One ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ()). Thanks.

None of them.

I want to look at Jesus, worship him, and praise and thank him when I see him in heaven.
Any earthly doctrine, arguments and church practices will be of no importance. He will answer any questions I might still have about certain events in my life, although as I'll know and understand all things by then, they probably won't be that important either.
 
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well since the dimensional reality of God surpasses what is being observed in quantum physics, I would have all conversations at once with God then move on to something more relevant to our surroundings all in the same nano second.
 
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well since the dimensional reality of God surpasses what is being observed in quantum physics, I would have all conversations at once with God then move on to something more relevant to our surroundings all in the same nano second.

That is a complicated answer.

I believe the choice is born, made or decide (unless you say something that was, is or will not be hard).
 
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None of them.

I want to look at Jesus, worship him, and praise and thank him when I see him in heaven.
Any earthly doctrine, arguments and church practices will be of no importance. He will answer any questions I might still have about certain events in my life, although as I'll know and understand all things by then, they probably won't be that important either.

You should (please? _____) have given me an answer I understood, anyway.
 
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No.

An answer I understand (if you will ____ believe) is always a subset of the choices I gave.

No, my answer is none of them, so that you know what I think. If it was a poll and I didn't vote, you wouldn't know whether I hadn't voted because I couldn't make up my mind, I didn't understand, I couldn't be bothered or I thought it was a waste of time.

This is what you were asking in the OP.
How the One was born.
The One presumably is Jesus. How was he born? In the same way as any other baby. He wasn't conceived that way; he was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit. But that's not what you asked, and I don't particularly want to know the intricate details anyway. So I wouldn't ask that when I get to heaven, (though as I'll understand all things by then, it's possible I won't need to.)

How the One was made.
Jesus wasn't made. He is God and was with God at the beginning of the world (John 1:1-2). He is the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last. So I wouldn't need to ask how he was made, because he wasn't.

How the One decided ....?
How God decided what - to create the world, to give Adam free will, to send Jesus to be our Saviour, or all of it?
God is love. We would not know that, or indeed know about God, if he had not created us. We know that someone loves something, or someone else, because they express it in action - they show it.
Because God is love, he created people with whom he could share that love and who would love him also.
Because God is love he did not create people who were pre-programmed to obey him; like robots or puppets. That meant they had to have the freedom to say, "no thanks, I'll go my own way". And Adam did.
Because God is love he did not wash his hands of Adam, nor of the many millions of people after him who also disobeyed his law and rejected him. God gave first of all the law and covenant, and then sent Jesus who established the New Covenant, reconciling us to his Father and making it possible for us to be his children again.
So I doubt I'd ask God how he decided to do anything, and, again, I might not need to.

So my original answer still stands; none of them.
 
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That is a complicated answer.

I believe the choice is born, made or decide (unless you say something that was, is or will not be hard).

english makes it complicated, but it is really that simple.
 
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I would agree, none of them.
they're all right there in the bible, plus there are endless Papal encyclicals and discussion programs on EWTN (yes, it's everywhere!)
that explain much of what you are asking.
the information is out there now, so you don't have to wait to know it. all you have to do is to ask the question.
 
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