what is the "promise"?

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speaking of the patriarchs, the author of hebrews says:

Hebrews 11:39(NKJV)
39And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise,

what is the promise?

It is the Promise of Matt 5 - of the form "The meek shall inherit the Earth"

The one we see in Is 66 of the "New Earth".

The one we see in Rev 21 - the New Earth.

It happens after the Rev 20 period of 1000 years.
It is the final destination of the saints - this Earth - restored to its original intent for mankind.

Even Enoch who was translated - has not received that New Earth of Rev 21.
 
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It is the Promise of Matt 5 - of the form "The meek shall inherit the Earth"

The one we see in Is 66 of the "New Earth".

The one we see in Rev 21 - the New Earth.

It happens after the Rev 20 period of 1000 years.
It is the final destination of the saints - this Earth - restored to its original intent for mankind.

Even Enoch who was translated - has not received that New Earth of Rev 21.

are you sure?

read verse 40 of heb 11.
 
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is that right? remember the promise is something to be received?

and the author has already pointed out the fact that they all walked with God!
Yes, "by faith" they received the redemption given by the promised Messiah and they await, as with us, His final coming.
 
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Yes, "by faith" they received the redemption given by the promised Messiah and they await, as with us, His final coming.

i'd check verse 40 of heb 11 to make sure what you said is right!
 
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speaking of the patriarchs, the author of hebrews says:

Hebrews 11:39(NKJV)
39And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise,

what is the promise?

The promise is to recieve eternal inheritance after a faithful dies. The faithful witness/testator must sign out with their own blood by being faithful even onto death in order to recieve what the Lord has already laid for all of us who love his appearing.

Hebrews 9:15-17
And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

Paul summaries this promise to be recieved as the crown of righteousness.

2 Timothy 4:1
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

The appearing of the Lord for the testator as declared in Hebrews 9:15-17 is after they die.

2 Timothy 4:6-8
For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Paul states that he has kept the faith and finished his race because soon he is going to be executed and therefore on the day of his execution he is expecting to receive the promise that has already been laid up for him as a testator. He comforts those that will remain after his execution that they to in turn will be glad to behold the Lord's appearing once their day comes to die as testators as a condition of the blood covenant mentioned in Hebrews 9:15-17, so they too can recieve the promise to eternal life and be awarded their crown of righteousness.
 
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The living shall by no means hinder the dead in Christ, for after the cross the dead immediately recieve the promise to eternal life to be reunited with the Lord. The reaping of the great harvest of God commenced after his resurrection with the first fruits being raised (Matthew 27:52-53), then every new covenant believer in turn on their day of passing from the mortal life to eternal life, at the Lord's appearing.
Those that remain at the end of the harvest, which is called the gleaning, are translated at the brilliant coming of the Lord at the final (seventh) trumpet that the Lord himself will sound and declare time no longer, that is, the reaping from the harvest is complete and all those who were written in the book of life have entered the wedding supper of the lamb through death and onto resurrection as testators of the new covenant.
The church of the East liturgy for the departed states that the departed faithful has migrated from mortal life to eternal life to be with the Lord.
 
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When the Lord ascended up on high into his Father's house in heaven, he took with him those Old Covenant saints and gave them gifts and positions within his heavenly court (Ephessians 4:8).
Abraham down to Daniel were told to wait in their lot/place, that is, Abraham's Bosom until the Messiah came the first time to raise them up from their graves as the firstfruits of the great harvest. Matthew 27:52-53 is fulfilment of Ezekiel 37:11-14 and though they never received the promise and needed to wait for messiah to come and be crucified and be raised in order for them to receive the promise to eternal life.
That is why new covenant believers from the first Saint Stephan beheld the Lord's appearing coming with the clouds (Angels) of heaven and sitting on the right hand of majesty as the almighty judge who is separating his sheep from the goats after people's from all nations are passing to come before his judgement seat and before his heavenly 24 kingly judges (jury) to be judge according to their faith in Christ. That is why it is written all eyes shall see him and all knees shall bow before him and all tongues shall confess before him, because all men are destined to die once then to appear before his judgement seat. After all that is why the Lord ascended up on high to sit on the right hand of power to judge all the peoples of all nations as they are passing from this life,
 
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ok, go back and read verse 13.
Go back and read verse 1 to learn that all of Heb 11 is about a special faith. Now we may have faith in many things, but there is only faith in one that provides confidence and that we may be assure of.
1 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.

Go back and read verse 4 to learn that faith in only one can make us righteous in God's eyes.
4 By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, when God spoke well of his offerings.

Go back and read verse 13 to learn that many things have been promised by God.
13 All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised;

But your thread question is about the one special promise in verse 39. Your OP should have quoted verse 40 that finishes the sentence started in verse 39; for in verse 40 you would learn that the promise that is the source of our faith is the one that makes us perfect.
39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised, 40 since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.

It should be obvious what promise has made us perfect. It was the very first promise made to man.
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between
your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,and you will strike his heel.”

The Jews waited many years for this promise and all hoped for a deliverer. Both Elizabeth and Mary rejoiced in the coming of the promised one.
Luke 1:41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42 In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43 But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45 Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!”
46 And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord
47 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,
48 for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant.
From now on all generations will call me blessed,
54 He has helped his servant Israel,
remembering to be merciful
55 to Abraham and his descendants forever,
just as he
promised our ancestors.


This was even in the minds of the lowly Samaritans.
John 4:25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.” 26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”

This fulfills the promise that they would be taught by God.
John 6:45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me[Jesus].

While God has given us many promises; the rainbow, resurrection, eternal life, ... there is only one promise that saves us and that we base our faith on.

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
 
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speaking of the patriarchs, the author of hebrews says:

Hebrews 11:39(NKJV)
39And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise,

what is the promise?
I believe it refers to the fulfilling of their land inheritance. They've never received the whole land and Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob MUST step foot in it as that was promised not only to the seed, but to them. Hebrews was written to believing Jews. They would've been waiting for this.
 
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speaking of the patriarchs, the author of hebrews says:

Hebrews 11:39(NKJV)
39And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise,

what is the promise?


Jesus Christ, who is the fulfillment of all of the promises and the prophecies.
 
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