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There are houses in Arizona that are earthberm style - even a rather large Catholic church by where my daughter lives is mostly underground. it gets so hot there, it really helps.

I have a friend that was in Desert Storm in Iraq and she would put cold water in a jar and then keep the jar closed and mostly buried in the sand. Her army mates wondered what special training she had to know how to keep the water cool. She said Arizona Girl Scouts. ^_^ An earthberm house is cooler isn't it?
 
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My cleaning goes about the same. I make my own glass cleaner (2 c. water, 1/4 c.vinegar, 1/4 c. isopropyl alchohol, 1 TB cornstarch and 10 drops of orange or lemon essential oil). And my own tub cleaner (baking soda and Dr. Bronners castile soap and 5 drops orange essential oil). Folks here (who have septic tanks) swear by very diluted Muriatic acid for the toilet (need to wear gloves though). I have a disinfectant that I make similar to the glass cleaner but different essential oils and it helps with mildew. Other than that, I use a lemon oil furniture polish that I buy and Murphy's wood soap for a wood floor. We can easily find Borax here too.
Overall, it is way cheaper and I like having the ability to make it myself.

I also make bug spray and itch cream.

I have been told to try and keep food out of the grey water because cleaning and or replacing the tube going out is a smelly affair. So I use these:
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It helps.

I got that same little drainy thingy there.

Me and you are on some of the same pages

I actually bought another one those (but one with a wider rim) that fits nicely around (and into) a wide mason jar that I lined with cheese cloth for something or other. I love being able to rig something (on the cheap)

We do have a garbage disposal, however, I rarely work inside of my sink to worry too much about that. The one time I worry is sometimes when I make mozzarella but I do all of that draining on another counter with really fine meshed tools. THAT is tedious, I need to find a better way to do that, but I still love making it.

You know, I never heard of Muriatic acid, that is actually new to me. I just use lysol, toilet lime with lime and rust removal, which I buy by the case over at amazon (when its on sale). I still have something like 10 of them left, it works great on tile too (I know, I shouldnt use it there by I like how it works there) lol

I would be interested in this other one. Is there a dry form of it? If not, is it shelf stable do you know? And if so, do you know where we can get it by the gallon maybe? I ran an image search on it and I see it in a gallon (liquid) but not at amazon.

Amazon sells that murphys oil by the gallon, I like that also and I always cut that by half (with water) and I dont have wood floors though, insurance will not cover an earthberm home (when it comes to water intrusion) so it wasnt worth the investment. I love the look of wood though, so our kitchen floor "looks like wood" but its one of those fakey jobs (cant use murphys on it) gotta use Mr clean or something similar. Im a sucker for those smell good floor cleaners but I love the smell of murphys on the furniture too.
 
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Muriatic acid is an acid used in pools. It is sold here in a dilute form called Muriatec and I dilute it a bit more. It is hydrochloric acid. It is in all these products like lime-a-way and other other toilet bowl cleaners.
http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/search?tbl=TblChemicals&queryx=7647-01-0

So it is in the stuff you buy. It is just sold in a plain form here. It works well. Eventually it can eat the toilet bowl brush though. ^_^
 
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There are houses in Arizona that are earthberm style - even a rather large Catholic church by where my daughter lives is mostly underground. it gets so hot there, it really helps.

I have a friend that was in Desert Storm in Iraq and she would put cold water in a jar and then keep the jar closed and mostly buried in the sand. Her army mates wondered what special training she had to know how to keep the water cool. She said Arizona Girl Scouts. ^_^ An earthberm house is cooler isn't it?

Typically it would be cooler (I would think) I guess I cant tell being a northerner having moved down south though, I cant really tell what it would feel like being fully under verses partially.

This is the house our house (as is shown in the magazine) was intended to be

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The earth coming up to the rooftop

Then see that center piece coming out of the roof there? Thats the atrium area (in the center of the home) and that isnt tempt regulated, so when its 110 degrees outside its like 130 degrees in there.

You would think it would make a great sunroom but it doesnt anything living in there dies.

That area's interior (as the magazine showed it back in the 80's) looked like this

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Yeah, I know its all outdated but trust me its far better then what I can do with things.

Here is ours (although this area has been ruined by contractors (not quite so visible in this picture) and has been in litigation for over a year nothing much can be in there but buckets at this point, so nothing special here

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That better homes and gardens pic (as outdated as it might be) was for a northern home area I believe. That one is pictured fully uder the earth having the darker floor (to supposedly absorb heat) whereas ours is built in the southern part of the U.S (being partly under the earth) with white flooring (which supposedly reflects heat).

White floors or not its insanely hot in there.

Its not liveable in that area of the home, I walk through it daily (but I cant wait to reach the other side to where I am going) lol

All plant life will die if anything is left in that room from mid July through August.

And its, huge, its like the largest room in the house (but cant live in there) cant store anything in there (fluctuates in temp way too much)

Seriously, what an absolute waste of space. Outside of light I cant see the benefit of having that room.

And maybe it doesnt stay as cool because our house doesnt have a lid like your friends jar in the sand ^_^

Because this house has got a sort of solar inlet through all that glass.

It feels like a solar oven? In the winter the pipes freeze which run through it. I wish I could remove the top off of it, pull up the floor, have extra drain lines installed and make it a private garden area.

See?

Our home isnt buried all the way into the earth like the other (just partly)


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Yeah, its a mess though (sometimes I wish it was buried lol). You see the satelite wires the heating pump's line, the heating system's electrical connection (and the heating/air system is just off to the left) not pictured. But seriously, can you imagine more crap connected outside (where your window is) and what your view will actually be?) ^_^ In just that small an area, can you imagine grey water systems, rain water barrels, tankless water heater hook ups, a large alternative propane tank alongside of a whole house generator?

Which are higher then your rooftop?

^_^

It already looking like one of those houses with cars for lawn ornaments, and I was contemplating an out house (and a tilapia pond?) ^_^

But anyway, its sort of set up in what appears like its backed up into the earth, since the front part of the house isnt under the earth (at all)

This is the front part

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Its really a weird set up, I cant get my husband to move out of here, I have been trying for years, he is not into my tiny home idea lol
 
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Muriatic acid is an acid used in pools. It is sold here in a dilute form called Muriatec and I dilute it a bit more. It is hydrochloric acid. It is in all these products like lime-a-way and other other toilet bowl cleaners.
http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/search?tbl=TblChemicals&queryx=7647-01-0

So it is in the stuff you buy. It is just sold in a plain form here. It works well. Eventually it can eat the toilet bowl brush though. ^_^

I think Im going to love it then ^_^

I just love acidy cleaning stuff which eats the crud away (I am so on that sister)

Thanks FreeInChrist, you have been most helpful
(outside the flour in the out house idea) ^_^

Me (with that)
(I just dont understand why all these ants keep bugging me while Im taking to take care of my businesses) lol
 
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That stuff is stronger. It definitely has to be diluted. We had a larger swimming pool for a backyard pool in phoenix and a cup of it made a significant change in the ph of the pool.
 
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That stuff is stronger. It definitely has to be diluted. We had a larger swimming pool for a backyard pool in phoenix and a cup of it made a significant change in the ph of the pool.

How much would I add?

Its not like on the back of the package it will say, "For toilets, add one teaspoon and swish around for ten minutes" lol
 
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