Trumps lawyer tells Daily Beast reporters he'll mess with 'em if they use "rape" in divorce story

NightHawkeye said:

Great point. I hadn't considered that they might have planned it in advance but a good businessman is always prepared with a contingency plan for the worst case possibility...

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If one is to get somewhere, they would not leave things like this to mere CHANCE. It is too important, and to leave it hanging out there to be used against him would not be wise. It is what I meant about "..theatre for the info crowd..."

NightHawkeye said:

... If I understand the situation correctly, the word "rape" does show up in the court records, though Ivana quickly backtracked in what she meant by using it...

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I was not sure. I had read the statement that she felt violated, and I know how people like to jump to conclusions. Why did the DB not report about what Kathleen Willey said was done to destroy her by the Clinton machine (which is expressly, Hillary?)

NightHawkeye said:

It appears that Ivana got the carrot rather than the stick.

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I'm guessing she got both.

Avid said:

Your example is a prime one for the point I make. We have numerous liberals who get a pass from these same biased "journalists," though there are blatant inconsistencies, but they gladly go back 20, 30 years or more, into an opponent's past to find they were involved in a hazing incident in high school. Or how about how a sick dog was carried in a pet-taxi on the roof of the car, rather than allowed to foul the interior of the car where the people were? We see these details of an opponent's past, but cannot see the school records of someone they favor? How is it Barry Soetoro came to college here in the US as a foreign student, got money for that as a foreign student, but BO swears he never used any other name?

He used the name “Barry Soetoro” to receive financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia when he was an undergraduate. The official transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order.

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Except he didn't.

The point is how these same "journalists" do not do this to someone they support, and that we cannot get a straight answer from you as requested multiple times now, about your support for Hillary who has done much worse than what is alleged against Trump. Are you aq die-hard liberal supporting what ever crimes these people do, or is it a matter of principle to be applied to all?

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First off, I don't see why you think I'm a Hillary supporter. Is it because I kept trying to avoid your derail attempt and am focusing on the actions of Trump, which is the topic of this thread?

Arcangl86 said:

...First off, I don't see why you think I'm a Hillary supporter. Is it because I kept trying to avoid your derail attempt and am focusing on the actions of Trump, which is the topic of this thread?

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The whole accusation of rape from 20 some years ago is a "derail attempt."

As far as what I think, the question is why you refuse to answer what I asked, that is meant to find out if this is a matter of principle with you, or are you just against any conservative leaning person or politician. Are you for the same treatment of Hillary? Where are the DB stories of how Hillary DESTROYED women who had something they may say against her husband (whether or not they had said anything at all...)

Avid said:

The whole accusation of rape from 20 some years ago is a "derail attempt."

As far as what I think, the question is why you refuse to answer what I asked, that is meant to find out if this is a matter of principle with you, or are you just against any conservative leaning person or politician. Are you for the same treatment of Hillary? Where are the DB stories of how Hillary DESTROYED women who had something they may say against her husband (whether they had said anything at all...)

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It is a matter of principal with me. The principal of freedom of the press. You don't hear about liberal politicians threatening to sue news sites or throw reporters off balconies, yet you do hear that about Republicans. The issue here is the reaction by a public figure and presidential candidate, not any double standard that might exist within the Daily Beast. Why? Because it is their right to report on issues they choose to report on. Personally I think the press in general is overly political and sensationalist, but that is one of the weaknesses of having a free press, even if it is overwhelming controlled by corporate interests.

I had endured your posts longer than I intended. It seems the principle you are interested in is not what I was discussing. The post has blatant inaccuracies, and seems self contradictory. The points I was making seem to get ignored. From here, your posts may not even be read at all as I pursue the truth in this matter.

Avid said:

I had endured your posts longer than I intended. It seems the principle you are interested in is not what I was discussing. The post has blatant inaccuracies, and seems self contradictory. The points I was making seem to get ignored. From here, your posts may not even be read at all as I pursue the truth in this matter.

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Your points attempt to derail this thread from the discussion of Trumps actions, which is the topic of the thread. And how exactly is my post self contradictory, or inaccurate? If you want to talk about a double standard within the media, by all means start a thread, and I honestly would agree with you. But here you are trying to justify the rather childish behavior of the current GOP frontrunner by claiming that the press is biased. It is. But we also live in a nation which embraces the freedom of said press. If you want to talk about other politicians not being transparent and threatening journalists, that is relevant. The Daily Beast being selective in what stories it runs is not.

NightHawkeye said:

As the originator of the OP, I'd suggest that your own posts have perhaps been more off-topic. The Daily Beast's selection of which stories it chooses to run is very much a part of this story.

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Ok then. I'm done since you apparently don't want to discuss whither Trumps actions were proper, but rather how evil the liberal press is. Good to know.

Arcangl86 said:

Ok then. I'm done since you apparently don't want to discuss whither Trumps actions were proper, but rather how evil the liberal press is. Good to know.

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Now you are getting it. His wife must have been lying about the rape accusation, and poor old Donald is forever being attacked when he has done nothing wrong!

NightHawkeye said:

As the originator of the OP, I'd suggest that your own posts have perhaps been more off-topic. The Daily Beast's selection of which stories it chooses to run is very much a part of this story.

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Thanks, this is very close to my point all along. The guy at TDB, Tim Mak, showed in an interview what were his intentions and his tactics. He wished to discredit the "frontrunner," and researched till he found his flavor of tidbit for the task. He wanted the story to be about the hypocrisy of Trump saying there were murderers and rapists coming here from Mexico, and the gov. of Mexico facilitated them getting here. We have SIGNIFICANT prisoner populations in Fed., State and Local jails and prisons that are there for committing those very acts here. Tim Mak wanted something that tied Trump to rape! He looked till he found something.

Tim Mak so wanted to find what would make Trump look hypocritical that he researched that specific storyline. It is NOT a matter of principle with him either, because he did not highlight seriously wrong actions by Hillary in her official capacity in our government. He also did not highlight how Hillary covered up rapes and other sexual misconduct for her husband (Bill Clinton - Bill Cosby, same two initials... coincidence for sure!)

If there is a principle being upheld that "journalists" go after misbehavior in the lives of politicians, there would be BUCKETS of stories about Liberal politicians, but they are largely given a pass - what the other poster here had said was not right (that they get a pass.) Oddly how he did not seem to mind when TDB ignored other politicians', and charges of their misconduct.

Avid said:

The whole accusation of rape from 20 some years ago is a "derail attempt."

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The allegation was made against Trump, was it not?

As far as what I think, the question is why you refuse to answer what I asked, that is meant to find out if this is a matter of principle with you, or are you just against any conservative leaning person or politician. Are you for the same treatment of Hillary? Where are the DB stories of how Hillary DESTROYED women who had something they may say against her husband (whether they had said anything at all...)

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What stories did you have in mind?

Trumps lawyer tells Daily Beast reporters
he'll mess with 'em
if they use "rape" in divorce story
The OP is about a lawyer alerting a potential defendant about repercussions from them using a specific word in their story on Trump's divorce more than 20 years prior.

Arcangl86 said:

Ok then. I'm done since you apparently don't want to discuss whither Trumps actions were proper, but rather how evil the liberal press is. Good to know.

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TLK Valentine said:

The allegation was made against Trump, was it not?

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NightHawkeye said:

Noting that:
1) Ivana categorically denied the accusation, and
2) The Daily Beast chose to make the story about Trump's lawyer rather than focusing on Trump.

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It is clear that certain "non-lawyers" think this would go against Trump in a court, and that there was something wrong about alerting the potential defendant of the legal jeopardy facing him if he published such things in a story in The Daily Beast.

NightHawkeye said:

It seems the attorney made it abundantly clear that it better not be a case of libel.

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If Trump's lawyer is on target, and TDB treads this ground with the Trump story, we see it could clearly cost TDB in numerous ways! That lawyer (and others) were hired specifically because they know how to do these things.

NightHawkeye said:

Noting that the attorney focused almost exclusively on the use of the word "rape".

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Yeah, they have been warned not to include this word in their story. It seems the Trump team would have more than one opportunity to win judgments against TDB for proceeding after being warned.

NightHawkeye said:

Or Clinton's ... Have you been sexually harassed by Bill Clinton? | WND

Bill Clinton sexual-harassment accuser Kathleen Willey has launched an anti-Hillary Clinton website titled: "A Scandal A Day"...

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Interesting that the OP introduced this subject, but it is supposedly OFF-TOPIC...

Avid said:

Interesting that the OP introduced this subject, but it is supposedly OFF-TOPIC...

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Really? Please point to the part of the OP that introduced Bill Clinton?

NightHawkeye said:

I believe in this instance, OP referred to Original Poster rather than original post. Therefore, consider your question already answered.

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Abosolutly not. But nice try though.

NightHawkeye said:

I believe in this instance, OP referred to Original Poster rather than original post. Therefore, consider your question already answered.

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Yeah, that was post #8 in the thread... You being the "Original Poster" (as I have seen this used often,) introduced this for reasons you highlighted in your post #69 of this thread!

NightHawkeye said:

Noting that:
1) Ivana categorically denied the accusation, and

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After, as you said, she was apparently bought off.

2) The Daily Beast chose to make the story about Trump's lawyer rather than focusing on Trump.

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Well, it was his lawyer who threatened the Daily Beast on behalf of his client -- Donald Trump