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Well, almost no faith. It's extremely weak. I barely believe in Jesus dying for our sins :(

Someone on Facebook mentioned that such a God who would send his Son into the world to die in the worst type of death imaginable is the most sadistic God you could think of, and it kind of caused me to stumble. What do I do?
 
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When Adam and Eve sinned, man was condemned to death. The world was broken and death was now our penalty.
God is perfect and the only way He could forgive us for our sins which were passed down from Adam and Eve was a perfect sacrifice. Only His Son Jesus was perfect. He was the God-man. He came down from heaven and lived a sinless and perfect life.

He loved us so much that He died for our wretched sins on the cross. You know what? He didn't have to. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit were in perfect unity without man. Because God loved us so much, He let His one and only Son die so that we may live.

God is anything but a sadistic God. He is the All Loving God! He came to us, so that we might live instead of dying and going to our rightful place which is hell.

I hope you can find some encouragement in this sister. God loved us when we hated Him in our sins.
 
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Jesus took all the misery we had created within God and brought it to a good ending, nothing sadistic about that at all. As a matter of fact it was the only way to save humanity from hell.:amen::amen::amen:

Please remember that in the truth it were people who dragged Him to that cross and murdered Him so callously - without pity or mercy. In other words it was the truth of our sin that killed Jesus. However in His infinite love God turned it around and made the worst act of humanity His most powerful act of salvation.:pray::pray::pray:

Be careful who you listen to on FB, some sprout out the biggest nonsense ever. These people have not understood how bad their sins are and how much they murder the truth of God out of themselves on a daily basis.:doh::doh::doh:

Glory in God that He allowed us to crucify His Son so that His Son would be able to overcome our sins, share His Spirit and bring us the truth of His love and eternal life.:clap::clap::clap:
 
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It wasn't just Jesus being forced to die for our sins by God, it was his choice as well, and he did so gladly, because He is the good shepherd.

John 10:17-18
17For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I may take it up again. 18No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.”
 
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Well, almost no faith. It's extremely weak. I barely believe in Jesus dying for our sins :(

Someone on Facebook mentioned that such a God who would send his Son into the world to die in the worst type of death imaginable is the most sadistic God you could think of, and it kind of caused me to stumble. What do I do?

I think you have got some excellent advice here. I would especially agree with what Jeshu said about people on FB. I think you should avoid FB pages that are antiChristian. Also if you have not done already I would look for a good church as we Christians need to have fellowship with each other. :hug::hug::hug::hug:
 
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Yes, again, those people on FB are denying Jesus agency, as if he had no choice in the matter.

Also, instead of punishing me for my sins, He punished his very own, which is amazingly "anti-sadistic" with regards to me. I received no lashes.

We collectively killed Jesus. The best thing that ever existed materially in the universe, and we tortured and killed him. So that would make who sadistic, again?
 
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Well, almost no faith. It's extremely weak. I barely believe in Jesus dying for our sins :(

Someone on Facebook mentioned that such a God who would send his Son into the world to die in the worst type of death imaginable is the most sadistic God you could think of, and it kind of caused me to stumble. What do I do?

faith and doubt go hand in hand. I think faith is to be kept on God himself rather than only on the acts he does for us which are done out of his love. I have often said the same kinds of things to people as the guy on facebook said because some peoples view of God is more kin to a God who must make a savage blood sacrifice rather than a God who sent his son to us to reveal to us the good news that we also may be free as the son is free.

the parables of Jesus are very deep and people tend to understand them by a view of God that is the view of corrupted human nature in the spirit of the world and so we must be born again and live in the holy spirit to be properly taught of God what it is that God is revealing to us least we stumble over the cornerstone due to the weakness of our understanding since we are used to the so-called wisdom of the world rather than the wisdom from God. but this parable does help one to see from Gods pov what was going on when he sent his prophets and servants who were killed by blind people and when even his own son was sent to the world. but we are all growing up to the Lord and so each of our souls is in a different place of understanding and so God wishes that we all keep on growing up more and more into all the rich treasures of his spirit that that he gives to us.

Matt 21:33-40 (YLT)
`Hear ye another simile: There was a certain man, a householder, who planted a vineyard, and did put a hedge round it, and digged in it a wine-press, and built a tower, and gave it out to husbandmen, and went abroad. `And when the season of the fruits came nigh, he sent his servants unto the husbandmen, to receive the fruits of it, and the husbandmen having taken his servants, one they scourged, and one they killed, and one they stoned. `Again he sent other servants more than the first, and they did to them in the same manner. `And at last he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son; and the husbandmen having seen the son, said among themselves, This is the heir, come, we may kill him, and may possess his inheritance; and having taken him, they cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him; whenever therefore the lord of the vineyard may come, what will he do to these husbandmen?'

such a God that would not keep trying to resolve the insane condition that humans sometimes find themselves in is far worse of a thing than to love the world so much that you give your only son. it must have been VERY important to God to risk his own son and it is because God says that "all souls belong to him". Gods love is very powerful, it does not conform itself to "survival of the fittest". love is dangerous to the world because men often believe that once they die that this is it and so they form their opinions upon the basic animal nature and they form a way of life and a morality that is not fully based upon the heart of God, which is something you can only understand when you have felt a strong love that can in some way relate to the infinite and eternal love that God himself is.

basically the life in the spirit is contrary to the lesser conditions of our fallen world or our natural world or a souls perception of reality that is blinding them from the freedom of the son of God.... when those things would keep a soul in chains of darkness.
 
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Sadism is when you enjoy inflicting and watching others in pain, so it's completely different. God did not send Jesus to his death for anyones pleasure, but for one very big, good purpose. Also when you consider that Jesus is God, just in human form, this theory doesn't work out quite so well. Plus those people on Facebook are forgetting that he didn't die.
 
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Well, almost no faith. It's extremely weak. I barely believe in Jesus dying for our sins :(

Someone on Facebook mentioned that such a God who would send his Son into the world to die in the worst type of death imaginable is the most sadistic God you could think of, and it kind of caused me to stumble. What do I do?

Hi,

The scriptures state that Jesus is God, that He is our creator. God did not send His child to die, in the sense that Jesus was His offspring. Jesus was God in the flesh, He as our creator took the penalty for us that we deserve so we could enter into relationship with Himself.
 
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Well, almost no faith. It's extremely weak. I barely believe in Jesus dying for our sins :(

Someone on Facebook mentioned that such a God who would send his Son into the world to die in the worst type of death imaginable is the most sadistic God you could think of, and it kind of caused me to stumble. What do I do?
Sometimes you have to go on what you know and believe to be true about God. Reading the Bible will increase your faith, which we all need!
 
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I have heard people accuse God of being evil because he would let someone die, but they forget that we will all die. Death is just for the body but God promises eternal life through Christ for the soul, and he promises anew body that will never die,and that's what i focus on. What hope is there without God? Will we not die if we refuse to believe in Him? Will we have hope if we forsake Him? No.
 
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We needed a savior. Jesus did embrace his sacrifice. We nailed him to the cross, not God - but Jesus was God as well, because he was of the Father. This not only makes it worse what we did, but also more graceful and loving what God did. We did the unthinkable - He gave us a straight way to Him through Jesus Christ.

I hope you don't treat your faith as an argument you should win or lose on the internet. I am NOT saying that you shouldn't think about things or that you shouldn't use your God-given intelligence, but your relationship with Jesus Christ is the key. Through God, you will know wisdom. Be honest in whatever you pray in His name, and search with an honest heart.

You got many good advice here already.
 
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