Discussion St Paul forgave the greedy preachers

Wisdom and reality.

Now it is not stated, but I believe the Apostle reached out to those in error. He was the spiritual father of so many churches.

geetrue said:

Just reading along and found this warning that all preachers (no names please) don't always preach Christ with pure motives, but that they preach with selfish motives.

You could probably go over a Christian TV program guide and circle who's who, uh?

again no names needed, but look what St Paul did ... He forgave them

Philippians 1:15-19 NLT

15 It’s true that some are preaching out of jealousy and rivalry. But others preach about Christ with pure motives. 16 They preach because they love me, for they know I have been appointed to defend the Good News. 17 Those others do not have pure motives as they preach about Christ. They preach with selfish ambition, not sincerely, intending to make my chains more painful to me. 18 But that doesn’t matter. Whether their motives are false or genuine, the message about Christ is being preached either way, so I rejoice. And I will continue to rejoice. 19 For I know that as you pray for me and the Spirit of Jesus Christ helps me, this will lead to my deliverance.

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well, it does not really say it was about money in Phil 1, and in 2 Cor 10-12, where it was about money, and law, he called them disciples of the devil in 2 Cor 11, and gospel peddlers in 2 Cor 2:17. The selfish ambition motives in Phil 1, seems to be of ego, to "get Paul", cause him pain.

17 For we are not, like so many, peddlers of God's word, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ.

I'm not really sure what the point of this thread was meant to say. I'm not sure why it is being pushed that Paul would have forgiven them or not.

I will respond to the scripture quoted in the OP.

What Paul seems to be saying is that the Lord Jesus is being preached to people who have not heard the gospel and that in itself is a good thing that is coming out of that situation. I do not see the 'forgiveness' part that the OP speaks of.

In that day and age with no television or internet and many people unable to read and there being very limited printed/reproduced materials available to be read it was a very different situation than today. In that day, the Jewish folk would have probably had only printed/reproduced texts of the Old Testament and probably not known much about Jesus at all and since the Pharisee's and Saduacee's did not believe that Jesus was the Messiah they obviously would not have heard about Jesus in their synogogues. The other areas (ie.. Galatia, Corinth, ect) needed to hear the gospel as things were spread in that time by word-of-mouth almost exclusively.

Again, I'm a little confused by the OP post myself and I appreciate the above poster who added more scripture.

geetrue said:

Just reading along and found this warning that all preachers (no names please) don't always preach Christ with pure motives, but that they preach with selfish motives.

You could probably go over a Christian TV program guide and circle who's who, uh?

again no names needed, but look what St Paul did ... He forgave them

Philippians 1:15-19 NLT

15 It’s true that some are preaching out of jealousy and rivalry. But others preach about Christ with pure motives. 16 They preach because they love me, for they know I have been appointed to defend the Good News. 17 Those others do not have pure motives as they preach about Christ. They preach with selfish ambition, not sincerely, intending to make my chains more painful to me. 18 But that doesn’t matter. Whether their motives are false or genuine, the message about Christ is being preached either way, so I rejoice. And I will continue to rejoice. 19 For I know that as you pray for me and the Spirit of Jesus Christ helps me, this will lead to my deliverance.

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Where did he forgive them?

yes, the word forgiveness isn't in the text. But Paul did rejoice that the gospel was being preached. Seems to me that says he was going to have a good attitude toward them. That's close enough for me to see Paul forgiving them.

dayhiker said:

yes, the word forgiveness isn't in the text. But Paul did rejoice that the gospel was being preached. Seems to me that says he was going to have a good attitude toward them. That's close enough for me to see Paul forgiving them.

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He came close enough for you even though he didn't actually do so. I think you are reading something into it that isn't there.

All he says is they are acting wrongly, but at least something beneficial is coming out of their attempts to cause him harm.

SeventyOne said:

He came close enough for you even though he didn't actually do so. I think you are reading something into it that isn't there.

All he says is they are acting wrongly, but at least something beneficial is coming out of their attempts to cause him harm.

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That's what I am reading too.