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Envy and misogyny

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I'm new to this forum and this is my first post. I also want to cut right to the chase and explain my issues. In 2010 during my first year in college, I began crossdressing because I wanted to be a woman and feel like one. I envied women for their looks and how society wants to protect women all the time. I hated male expectations and how almost every criminal is a man. I hated being a man still do to this day. However, earlier last month I decided to quit crossdressing because the envy I was feeling started to distress me deeply a lot. Once I donated all my feminine items to the Salvation Army, I felt somewhat free from the envy and my distress lessened. Although, while the envy was gone, I felt somewhat misogynistic. I mean these days women get to act like men, not to be this stay at home wife while at the same time have the privilege of being protected even when they do something wrong. Along with this I also felt hatred towards God for making a stronger and weaker sex while knowing this would cause problems with the strong oppressing the weak. Women may have been oppressed throughout history but nowadays women have so many freedoms even more than men. All women have to do to secure salvation is find a good man to protect her and raise kids. Sounds easy. Men have to find a girl that likes him, be lucky enough that she marries him, have a job & hold it down, and provide and have so many other responsibilities thereafter like protecting his woman and every other woman around him including strangers. We all know it's very likely there will be men who will fail at this and become either thieves, drug dealers/addicts, pimps, or sex offenders. Not a lot of women become these things and if a woman becomes a sex offender she will not suffer the same brutal treatment because that will hurt a lot and women can't take such pain while men feel no pain at all (sarcasm). This may also conclude that their are more men in Hell than women. Another thing that I hate is the male sex drive. Sex is frequently in the media and women's fashion makes men crave the female body and that can cause so much suffering and stumbling when a man tries to be faithful to God. Many women, including Christian women, don't respect men's lustful cravings and think they just have to deal with it like it's nothing. I wish all women could see how it is like to be a man for one day, just one. Anyway, last Fall, I found out about the Men's Rights Movement and it was absolutely amazing how my feelings related to the men of the movement. However, the movement has received negative attention. I really don't want to feel this way anymore but I can't seem to get over this feeling. Recently I have been thinking that going back to crossdressing will help but I'm not sure that will work either plus I have to buy back all the feminine items. I don't mean to offend anyone with this post. I just want to express what I'm feeling and want to find a way out of it.
 
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It seems you have not been here for quite some weeks but I'll reply...... for scientific purposes:
I feel the same way to a certain degree, the over-victimization of women, the ridiculous fashion, the one-sided feminist revolution.
However as a Christian I believe that our society's view on gender roles is actually very strict compared with God's view. One good example would be the beauty standard, the society sees symmetry along with feminine features as something beautiful and this is regardless of gender. God however made you from His image and thinks that only sin is ugly. As you can see, there is a huge amount of difference.
Let us apply these beauty standards in different situations and compare them in a practical way:
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*The graph may or may not contain personally biased conclusions, to be used with a sip of irony!

There is a saying that the grass always seems greener on the other side:
What if I told you that most women dislike dressing in a revealing way, what if I told you that TV stars have no control over their wardrobe while on TV or video-clips.
Do not think that the beauty propaganda only affects men, it affects women as-well.
How would you feel if you were walking trough the city while wearing a miniskirt? Pretty embarrassed....
Obviously they get used to it after a while but in the back of their mind there still is a big WHY/EMBARRASSED/DUMB feeling, you cannot remain ignorant to the truth all the time.

If that doesn't help then try this for a change:
When someone gets to heaven, they will get a new body which will be GENDERLESS. That sound like a really nice heaven to me, imagine a word without genders, and then realise that you can actually get there for real. I'll put actual biblical verses if requested.
 
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On the beauty standards and female celebrities having no say about what they wear, I'm old enough to remember the late 1960's and Jeannie C. Riley's iconic song, "Harper Valley PTA." It tells the story of a divorced mother of a middle-schooler, being criticized by the PTA because she (the mother, I mean) liked to dress in mini-skirts. It turned out that essentially the other members of the PTA didn't have room to criticize her, but what I'm discussing here is the singer herself. To attend the Grammys, she had selected a beautiful floor-length ball gown. When she went to pick it up from being altered, she discovered that they had made a mini-dress out of it. The lady is a conservative Christian, and she didn't like showing so much leg. Besides, they had hacked all of that length off of her dress without her permission. The tailor explained. Her manager had called after she left the dress with them, and informed them that if Ms. Riley were to show up at the Grammys in anything longer than a mini-skirt, he'd have their jobs. "It didn't matter that I was paying for the dress," said Ms. Riley. She was forced to go with a sexy persona she was not comfortable with, because her manager said so.
 
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On the beauty standards and female celebrities having no say about what they wear, I'm old enough to remember the late 1960's and Jeannie C. Riley's iconic song, "Harper Valley PTA." It tells the story of a divorced mother of a middle-schooler, being criticized by the PTA because she (the mother, I mean) liked to dress in mini-skirts. It turned out that essentially the other members of the PTA didn't have room to criticize her, but what I'm discussing here is the singer herself. To attend the Grammys, she had selected a beautiful floor-length ball gown. When she went to pick it up from being altered, she discovered that they had made a mini-dress out of it. The lady is a conservative Christian, and she didn't like showing so much leg. Besides, they had hacked all of that length off of her dress without her permission. The tailor explained. Her manager had called after she left the dress with them, and informed them that if Ms. Riley were to show up at the Grammys in anything longer than a mini-skirt, he'd have their jobs. "It didn't matter that I was paying for the dress," said Ms. Riley. She was forced to go with a sexy persona she was not comfortable with, because her manager said so.
Yupp, that's what I'm talking about.
Nowadays it's even worse as most popular singers no longer have any kind of control over their own songs or lyrics, so they are basically forced to dress and sing about something they disagree with. It's all smoke and mirrors as fans have a totally biased impression of an actual pop-star. No wonder so many of the stars have to got do rehab, I know I would if I'd be forced to speak, dance, behave and dance repeatedly for something I'm against for.
I believe that these artists are influencing our culture in a very demeaning way, the problem is that many people are starting to correlate real life persons with these artists, and they are right. Most of the people do feel the pressure of behaving the way that others expects them to thus turning a wacky and biased expectation into actual reality.
This results in some persons despising fellow human beings for the way they act and behave, wondering where did it all go so wrong.
Humans are depicted as sheep in the bible because individuals tend to follow the crowd and with so many horrible and fake role-models we desperately need a shepherd to protect and guide us to the right direction.
 
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It seems you have not been here for quite some weeks but I'll reply...... for scientific purposes:
I feel the same way to a certain degree, the over-victimization of women, the ridiculous fashion, the one-sided feminist revolution.
However as a Christian I believe that our society's view on gender roles is actually very strict compared with God's view. One good example would be the beauty standard, the society sees symmetry along with feminine features as something beautiful and this is regardless of gender. God however made you from His image and thinks that only sin is ugly. As you can see, there is a huge amount of difference.
Let us apply these beauty standards in different situations and compare them in a practical way:
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*The graph may or may not contain personally biased conclusions, to be used with a sip of irony!

There is a saying that the grass always seems greener on the other side:
What if I told you that most women dislike dressing in a revealing way, what if I told you that TV stars have no control over their wardrobe while on TV or video-clips.
Do not think that the beauty propaganda only affects men, it affects women as-well.
How would you feel if you were walking trough the city while wearing a miniskirt? Pretty embarrassed....
Obviously they get used to it after a while but in the back of their mind there still is a big WHY/EMBARRASSED/DUMB feeling, you cannot remain ignorant to the truth all the time.

If that doesn't help then try this for a change:
When someone gets to heaven, they will get a new body which will be GENDERLESS. That sound like a really nice heaven to me, imagine a word without genders, and then realise that you can actually get there for real. I'll put actual biblical verses if requested.
Ha! The last one on the chart was pretty funny. But in all seriousness, thanks for responding to this thread. At the college I got to, mostly every woman is wearing provocative clothing whether it is a miniskirt or leggings. With everyone's body parts showing, I doubt anyone would feel embarrassed just wearing a miniskirt.
 
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Hello there
I was thinking of bumping this thread back up to see if others will reply. I found out what may help me with my envy and that is to forgive because it seems to be what helps a person move on from sin. And right now I feel I have to forgive women for having a likely better life than me and my fellow males and for being more beautiful. But this still could be the wrong way to go, and that's why posted this to see if I could get help to overcome this envy from others.

Please reply if you have any advice for me. Thanks!
 
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I think one thing to help is to remember that women have flaws, just like you do. Some of them may hate being "beautiful" and find that it does absolutely nothing for them. I can remember a time when I started becoming attracted to other guys, but rather than in the sense that I wanted sex with them, I just wanted their muscular bodies. I wanted their ability to be confident, their deeper voices, the fact that they were "real men" and could show off their manliness. But that started to go away once I started realizing that I was, in fact, male, just like them. I wasn't a woman and I never had to worry about being one because I wasn't muscular. Embracing who I was in realizing that I was still made in God' Image really helped.
 
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I have a good friend that is a recovering Cross Dresser. Perhaps I could arrange for you to connect with him.

Staying away from internet P is good. For me, that's easier said than done. You'll need support and accountability. You cannot do this on your own. I have some good resources.

Please PM me if you're interested.
 
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