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    Looking for non-sacrificial doctrine

    Yes, it is very clear that Substitutionary Atonement is what Paul preached, but breaking away from the Levi presthood that said it was found in the death of animals, Paul applied their concepts to the death of Jesus. This has absolutely nothing to do with the Gospel of Grace consistantly taught...
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    I just read the end of all four gospels. (And a fragment that tells the same part of the story named "The Gospel of Peter" which is fairly consistent with the four gospels in the Bible.) My observations: Baptism is mentioned in Matthiew and Mark, and Jesus eats a lot of fish in John. There are...
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    How did Jesus discribe his ministry? (also in Matt 11) Luke 7: 21At that very time Jesus cured many who had diseases, sicknesses and evil spirits, and gave sight to many who were blind. 22So he replied to the messengers, "Go back and report to John what you have seen and heard: The blind...
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    The eunuch riding down the road and reading a scripture out loud, He said, "I don't understand." and Phillip hear this, and took the opportunity to talk to the rich guy, so that makes this verse about Jesus?? Phillip's answer to the question is not recorded. Well anyway, what happens next? Acts...
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    All shepherds (and body guards, fire fighters, lifeguards, police officers) should be dedicated to lay down their life in a ... saving... way. Not just Jesus. Should the need arise, all of us. I wonder if Jesus ever found his work exhausting with pressing crowds, almost like he is held...
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    Charis, I am tired of attending "churches of death" I put my four year old daughter in a nice church daycare where they sing Bible songs. One day she said they talked about Jesus. "Good. What did they tell you about Jesus?" "They put him on the cross." Thank you for pointing out a wonderful...
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    Fertility gods and the celebration of the seasons are also "the standard in the ancient world." Remember Jesus grew up in Egypt. His experiences there as a little boy are not described in the gospels, but it would be a mistake to assume all his views are strictly from the center of his own...
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    Looking for non-sacrificial doctrine

    Looking back, I see your reference to the last supper. It all started with Jesus making some really good wine. And then Jesus blessed bread, broke it and fed five thousand. Jesus said, "I am the bread of life" And there are a lot of other references to bread and to wine: Luke 7:33For John...
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    Looking for non-sacrificial doctrine

    What is wrong with the way Jesus forgave sin during his years of ministry? What is wrong with baptism as a symbol of repentance and renewal? That is what John preached, and Jesus was baptized by John. And here is the one place God parts the clouds and says, "This is my son whom I love, in...
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    Looking for non-sacrificial doctrine

    Dear Captain Theo, My first post said, "I have come to see that the major difference between my views and the great majority of Christian thought boils down to one point of conflict. That is the concept of blood sacrifices." I personally find the very concept of animal sacrifices and human...
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    Looking for non-sacrificial doctrine

    Thanks, A NTV. Good points about trying to be perfect. Thanks, Nemo Neem. I'll study that analysis. Sunday in Church we recited the Nicene Creed. The phrase that stuck with me was at the end where strong final points belong: "We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins." --...
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    Looking for non-sacrificial doctrine

    I have attended a Greek Orthodox church several times, a few years ago. (The smoke gave me headaches.) Compaired to other denominations, it is a more complex form of Christianity preserving and reflecting on the history of Christianity. When looking for information of a Christian subject, I...
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    Looking for non-sacrificial doctrine

    Thanks, Seashale76. I have looked at some of what you reference. As a whole I am looking for something that goes way beyond that. I'm not looking for an explanation of Christianity that is a different take on the message of the cross. I am looking for a Christianity based on the teachings of...
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    Looking for non-sacrificial doctrine

    So far, I have not heard the name of any denominations. Does anyone know of any on-line resource for comparing doctrine differences and beliefs?
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    Jesus on Jewish animal sacrifices?

    *Ignoring most of the general hatred expressed toward me there* I never called Jesus satanic. I said celebrating the sacrifice of Jesus is satanic. Let's get back to the foundational difference we have. Conceptually, I understand your doctrine that God needed to kill something as a...