Recent content by Aardverk

  1. Aardverk

    Science vs Global Warming

    There you go again, confusing science with 'belief'. If you want to talk about belief, there are plenty of other topics on this forum where belief is perfectly legitimate. Science has nothing to do with 'belief'. Go on then, I am deliberately responding to your bait. In your own words, of what...
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    Science vs Global Warming

    Sorry to show you up again but your words reveal such gross misunderstandings that I feel it my duty to try to help you. "You are looking for excuses not to believe........If you had a scientific belief you could support it with evidence..." - There is no such thing as "scientific belief" SZ...
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    Science vs Global Warming

    An honest discussion? That was indeed exactly what I wanted. Dishonest techniques? Really SZ (pot and kettle!)? I have been perfectly clear and open right from the start. Perhaps it was someone else who was being dishonest. :yawn: I'm sorry to publicly embarrass you by asking you questions...
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    Science vs Global Warming

    Oh dear, I'm sorry if I'm not asking you the right questions. Maybe that explains why you only seem interested in making a quick search and providing links to someone else's ideas. I am sure you will understand that gives the unfortunate impression that you don't actually know the answers...
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    Science vs Global Warming

    In my very first post in this thread I mentioned the 10,000 year anomaly of the 100,000 year cycle and you have just alluded to it yourself as if it was something you were introducing. I am very well aware of the Holocene period, thank you, but I refrained from naming it to avoid anyone thinking...
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    Science vs Global Warming

    You state that the earth has been roughly in equilibrium since the last ice-age but temperatures have almost constantly increased. So has CO2 and so has CH4. Sea levels have changes, land levels have changed, land area has changed, vegetation has changed, animal life has changed dramatically...
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    Science vs Global Warming

    You could read Spencer Weart's - The Modern Temperature Trend, but I was actually going from personal memory. I am 70. I was working with a group of meteorologists in the 70's on a study of jet streams and their effect on weather, amongst other things. Ice core data was coming in with very...
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    Science vs Global Warming

    Ah, this is getting more interesting. Let's start at the end where you mention Methane. I will assume that you know that most methane rapidly (8-9 years) breaks down into CO2 & H2O. Apart from a dozen other methane sources, global warming releases methane from permafrost, wetlands, oceans etc...
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    Science vs Global Warming

    Thank you Subduction Zone. Unfortunately, by showing a very recent 22,000 year graph, you seem to be implying that the Vostock and benthic forens data is irrelevant. Both of those studies show temperature rise preceding CO2 & CH4 rise many times over the last 400,000 years. If you want to draw...
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    Science vs Global Warming

    Ivar is using common sense, based on more knowledge that the average person, rather than hugely complicated, unproven computer models based on data that most of us are not even allowed to see. We are just expected to trust 'them'. The refutation by dana1981 is arguing, "most scientists agree" -...
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    is israel good or bad?

    Thank you. There are then a few, very rare cases of people getting around the law by conversion but we seem to be agreed that discrimination against anyone who is not a Jew is enshrined in Israeli law. Not 'racial' discrimination, because Jews are not a race. Not 'religious' discrimination...
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    is israel good or bad?

    Any Arab trying to convert in order to become an Israeli citizen is VERY likely to be rejected as insincere and implausible. If by any vague chance he actually succeeded he would then be extremely likely to be killed by his fellow Muslims as an apostate. The law very clearly excludes everyone...
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    is israel good or bad?

    WHAT is a Jew? According to the settlement laws of the modern State of Israel, a Jew is anyone with a Jewish grandmother (no mention of religious beliefs or practices of any kind). Anyone who can demonstrate that Jewish ancestry has a inalienable right to settle in Israel. Anyone who can not...
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    is israel good or bad?

    Before modern Israel was given to the Jews, 90% of the population in Palestine were Arab and only 5% were Jews. No matter how hard you try to ignore them, they existed and they still exist in their impoverished 'reservations'. They have never been a well organised people, they have a history of...
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    is israel good or bad?

    That is certainly the impression you give. How about avoiding bias? It used to be Jewish terrorists in Palestine. Their continued terrorism was rewarded by the extraordinarily generous gift of the modern state of Israel. That was a stupid and truly fatal precedent to set but it is there for...