The Left is Rallying to Take Your Guns Again

[Goonie]

It is one of our seven deadly sins ( which with the exception of murder that carries a minimum of 30 years to life on a first offense the rest of the seven deadly sins come with a MINIMUM of ten years without parole and I believe if they are sentenced to more they do more without parole. A second offense of any deadly sin when a person already has a prior for any one of the deadly sins on their record is mandatory life without parole.

Seven deadly sins?

 

[BNR32FAN]

Assault weapons may not be causing the majority of gun deaths, but they are the ones that would have the least negative impact on legitimate users of guns. And it won't hurt the blacks to ban AR-15s. So bringing up black-on-black crime is a deflection.


The policy that has failed is the one that has more guns per capita than any other developed nation. It has failed to make us safe. In fact, despite being awash in guns, the US has the highest rate of gun deaths of any developed nation. In the face of these facts, when are we going to stop pursuing this failed policy?

It was pointed out previously that America’s gun related homicides are 4 times higher than the UK. It was also pointed out that blacks are responsible for over half of them in both the UK and America and it was also pointed out that the percentage of blacks living in America is 4x higher than the UK. So I’m curious how these same variables might reflect gun related homicides in the developed countries your referring to? Might be worth looking into to see if there are any similarities.

 

[HARK!]

It is one of our seven deadly sins ( which with the exception of murder that carries a minimum of 30 years to life on a first offense the rest of the seven deadly sins come with a MINIMUM of ten years without parole and I believe if they are sentenced to more they do more without parole. A second offense of any deadly sin when a person already has a prior for any one of the deadly sins on their record is mandatory life without parole

Wow! I might have to take a long hard look at Georgia. Plants grow well there too. Maybe I'm in the wrong state.

 

[Larniavc]

Oh, these silly little words with these silly little meanings! You know what? I have this very lovely toaster made by a company called Sig Sauer. It was rather expensive at about $1060. But it has a 15 +1 bread slice capacity. The funny thing is that after the bread is toasted, the toaster ejects the bread at a very high velocity.

My point is that your standard of banning guns is based on what you would consider being "lots of people". I am just asking you to tell me what that means. Meaning, give me a number that defines " a lot" from "not a lot." Because a well-trained person can kill "lots of people" in a barricaded classroom full of kids with only a double-barrel shotgun.

In this case more than one.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Seven deadly sins?

yup that is what GA calls the crimes that our lawmakers have deemed the most serious felonies.

 

[TLK Valentine]

"The left is rallying to take your guns again"

Considering how many massacres have happened in the country during the course of this thread, is the left being unreasonable to ask you to at least keep better track of them? Maybe put them somewhere the maniacs won't get to them as easily?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Wow! I might have to take a long hard look at Georgia. Plants grow well there too. Maybe I'm in the wrong state.

We are supposedly a swing state not sure if I believe that. As of right now we have lose gun laws. We even allow guns in churches houses of worship I am almost certain ( assuming the church has no problem with it. I am also almost certain that you will not find 51% signs in GA either ( though that does not mean it is a good idea to carry in a bar, but legally

 

[Oompa Loompa]

People want to ban them now because they are the weapon of choice and a symbol of the mentality of those who would block any attempts to do something for the black community.

Who might those be? The one's blocking attempt to do something for the black community? I really hope you are not trying to tell me people want ARs banned because it is a weapon of choice for racist white people? Because, that is racist in itself.

 

[ottawak]

I edited my post on #2528. I didn't think it was fair to say you cared "nothing" about black on black crime. So I changed it to "not enough".

That I will agree with. If I cared enough I might be doing something more than just complaining about it in a chatroom.

 

[ottawak]

Who might those be? The one's blocking attempt to do something for the black community? I really hope you are not trying to tell me people want ARs banned because it is a weapon of choice for racist white people? Because, that is racist in itself.

It appears to be the weapon of choice for those (of any race) who are convinced they need those weapons, unregulated and unregistered, to fight off left-wing tyranny--which they think they can do even if opposed by a modern army with modern weapons. It's the only thing they care about and they will reject any gun control proposal--even strict enforcement of existing gun laws as suggested by conservatives in this discussion--because it might interefere with their God-given right to play cowboy. Some people think (wrongly, in my opinion) that taking away their toys will help them become grownups.

BTW, where do you stand on that issue? Do you think strict enforcement of existing gun laws would do any good? An end to the gun-crime revolving door our courts have become? Or are you too afraid for the safety of your pretend army gun?

 

[dogs4thewin]

It appears to be the weapon of choice for those (of any race) who are convinced they need those weapons, unregulated and unregistered, to fight off left-wing tyranny--which they think they can do even if opposed by a modern army with modern weapons. It's the only thing they care about and they will reject any gun control proposal--even strict enforcement of existing gun laws as suggested by conservatives in this discussion--because it might interefere with their God-given right to play cowboy. Some people think (wrongly, in my opinion) that taking away their toys will help them become grownups.

BTW, where do you stand on that issue? Do you think strict enforcement of existing gun laws would do any good? An end to the gun-crime revolving door our courts have become? Or are you too afraid for the safety of your pretend army gun?

I know this is not addressed to me, but I do support strict enforcement of the laws we already have. My only condition would be enforcement of those laws better be legal. In other words, if the 4th amendment is violated it is out. If police entrap the defendant it is out, but I do support strict enforcement of the gun laws on the books as long as the police do not cross the line trying to enforce them.

 

[BPPLEE]

So what? Don't you guys care about any gun crimes except those involving AR-15s? It seems to me Oompa, that you at least ought to be concerned about black-on-black shootings even if an "assault weapon" was not involved.

The fact that assault weapons were not used shows that banning them would not have made any difference.

 

[Brihaha]

And owning guns looking at the statistics hardly makes the US any less crime free than countries without guns. Ie. The idea that owning guns prevents crime is not supported by the statistics.

I made a thread addressing that interesting fact. It's not a surprise how gun "enthusiasts" ignore the statistics. Especially when stats illustrate more guns= more unnecessary gun deaths in America. Thanks for your contribution btw.

 

[ottawak]

The fact that assault weapons were not used shows that banning them would not have made any difference.

I wasn't interested in banning them anyway.

 

[Larniavc]

Why would you say mass shootings instead of multiple shootings

It’s the definition deflection dance. Focus on the definition of a broad term and you won’t need to address the issue.

Is three killings a mass shooting or four? Is it a school shooting if it starts out in the street? Who knows? But we very definitely cannot move forwards until these so very important details have been hammered out.

It’s all irrelevant because the gun lobby know that more guns equals more dead kids and they’ll do anything to avoid discussing it.

 

[HARK!]

made a thread addressing that interesting fact. It's not a surprise how gun "enthusiasts" ignore the statistics. Especially when stats illustrate more guns= more unnecessary gun deaths in America. Thanks for your contribution btw.

 

[HARK!]

The founding fathers had flintlocks. Gimme a flipping break.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

In other words...

Whenever a post starts out this way I can tell without reading the rest of it that it will be a wild misstatement of the person being quoted. As it is in this case.

But you were the one to bring up black-on-black crime as an argument against banning assault weapons. Tell me how NOT banning assault rifles will make blacks any safer?

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Talk about a deflection. You guys really are afraid of a solution to the problem. I wonder why? His Legacy--an undoubted conservative--had some decent proposals...

Please describe the best proposal for reducing gun violence. And please, a restatement of the problem is not necessarily a solution. A solution is something we can actually do.

 

[Brihaha]

Ahem.....it is 2022. A.T. (after trump)!