Catholic Priest claims that God is actually Female!

[Inkachu]

To make such a statement in this day and age shows a real boldness of character.

Bravo.

How is that "bold"?

 

[nightflight]

How is that "bold"?

I was being sarcastic. In a cranky mood; apologies to goldenboy.

 

[Inkachu]

I was being sarcastic. In a cranky mood; apologies to goldenboy.

Gotcha, lol. Sarcasm doesn't always translate well over the 'puter

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I was being sarcastic. In a cranky mood; apologies to goldenboy.

No need to apologize... All is well.

 

[Supreme]

I honestly don't believe that God belongs to any gender. He created man and woman in His image. God has no need to be a specific gender.

 

[SepiaAndDust]

The story was evidently one great big fib from the beginning.

 

[Tallguy88]

So we should really be referring to "Him" as it.

No, because God has chosen to present himself to us using masculine imagery ie "Father". And Jesus Christ is physically a man, so it is absolutely correct to say that God is a man, because He is.

 

[Archivist]

No, because God has chosen to present himself to us using masculine imagery ie "Father". And Jesus Christ is physically a man, so it is absolutely correct to say that God is a man, because He is.

Yes, Jesus took the form of a man when He was on the Earth, but God is neither male nor female.

It is my understanding--please correct me if I am wrong--that some branches of the Orthodox church refer to the Holy Spirit as feminine.

 

[Grafted In]

For me Genesis chapter 24 spells it out clearly. Abraham sent his servant back to his homeland to find a wife for Isaak. If that does not suffice then bare in mind that God is spirit. And Galatians 3:24.

 

[Tallguy88]

Yes, Jesus took the form of a man when He was on the Earth, but God is neither male nor female.

It is my understanding--please correct me if I am wrong--that some branches of the Orthodox church refer to the Holy Spirit as feminine.

Since Jesus Christ is fully God and fully (hu)Man, and was incarnate as a man, then God is a Male. However, God the Father is gender less as he doesn't have a physical body, same is true with the Holy Spirit.

So, the Trinity doesn't have a sex, but one of the Persons does.

 

[Archivist]

Since Jesus Christ is fully God and fully (hu)Man, and was incarnate as a man, then God is a Male. However, God the Father is gender less as he doesn't have a physical body, same is true with the Holy Spirit. So, the Trinity doesn't have a sex, but one of the Persons does.

Using this reasoning, God was without gender until approximately 2000 years ago when 1/3rd of God became male.

You are entitled to your opinion, but it is nothing more than that--opinion.

 

[Viren]

Genesis 1:27 Women and Men created in God’s image

“Humankind was created as God’s reflection: in the divine image God created them; female and male, God made them."

 

[Tallguy88]

Using this reasoning, God was without gender until approximately 2000 years ago when 1/3rd of God became male.

That is correct. Except the 1/3 of God part. Jesus is God, not a part of God.

You are entitled to your opinion, but it is nothing more than that--opinion.

It's standard orthodox theology. Jesus is fully God, Jesus is fully human. In keeping with being fully human, He has a specific gender: male. To deny that Jesus is either God or Man is heresy, either Arianism or Nestorianism, depending on which point is being denied.

 

[Archivist]

That is correct. Except the 1/3 of God part. Jesus is God, not a part of God.

But you specifically said in your earlier post "However, God the Father is gender less as he doesn't have a physical body, same is true with the Holy Spirit. So, the Trinity doesn't have a sex, but one of the Persons does." If God is male beacuse Jesus in male then the Father and the Holy Ghost do have a gender.

It's standard orthodox theology. Jesus is fully God, Jesus is fully human. In keeping with being fully human, He has a specific gender: male.

Yes, Jesus is fully God. Yes, Jesus is fully man. But, although he took that form on Earth, Jesus isn't fully male. In fact Jesus Himself said in John 4:24, "God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

To deny that Jesus is either God or Man is heresy, either Arianism or Nestorianism, depending on which point is being denied.

Don't believe that I have done any such thing.

 

[Tallguy88]

But you specifically said in your earlier post "However, God the Father is gender less as he doesn't have a physical body, same is true with the Holy Spirit. So, the Trinity doesn't have a sex, but one of the Persons does." If God is male beacuse Jesus in male then the Father and the Holy Ghost do have a gender.

The Trinity doesn't have parts, it has Persons. Jesus is male, the other persons are incoporeal and do not have physical genders. Being that Jesus is God, it is not incorrect to say that God is male. It is incorrect to say that God is female.

Yes, Jesus is fully God. Yes, Jesus is fully man. But, although he took that form on Earth, Jesus isn't fully male. In fact Jesus Himself said in John 4:24, "God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

How can Jesus not be fully male? Was He fully male when He was on Earth? Was He full male when He was resurrected? Did He not ascend bodily into heaven? If He did, then Jesus is in heaven with a fully male body.

Don't believe that I have done any such thing.

You seem to be denying that Jesus is male. I am not aware of any orthodox Christian theology that does that.

 

[Tallguy88]

I started a new thread in GT on the theology of God's gender so as not to continue to pull this one off topic.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7867529/

 

[Archivist]

The Trinity doesn't have parts, it has Persons.

Correct. My error.

Jesus is male,

In your opinion.

the other persons are incoporeal and do not have physical genders.

Being that Jesus is God, it is not incorrect to say that God is male. It is incorrect to say that God is female.

Then why do some Orthodox churches say that the Holy Ghost is female?

How can Jesus not be fully male?

Jesus is God. Jesus tells us that God is Spirit.

Was He fully male when He was on Earth?

Yes. I believe I said that already.

Was He full male when He was resurrected?

We know that those who saw him initially did not recognize Him.

Did He not ascend bodily into heaven? If He did, then Jesus is in heaven with a fully male body.

But Jesus is God. Jesus said that God is Spirit.

You seem to be denying that Jesus is male.

No, I am saying that, as Jesus said, God is Spirit.

I am not aware of any orthodox Christian theology that does that

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Oh yes.

 

[Archivist]

I started a new thread in GT on the theology of God's gender so as not to continue to pull this one off topic.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7867529/

Wish you would have put this up before your previous post. I will check it out.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Correct. My error.



In your opinion.





Then why do some Orthodox churches say that the Holy Ghost is female?



Jesus is God. Jesus tells us that God is Spirit.



Yes. I believe I said that already.



We know that those who saw him initially did not recognize Him.



But Jesus is God. Jesus said that God is Spirit.



No, I am saying that, as Jesus said, God is Spirit.

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Oh yes.

So, you are denying that Christ was resurrected and ascended in both natures into heaven; and that he did not retain His physical body?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I can't visualize God the Father or Jesus Christ the Son as anything other than male. However the "(Holy) Spirit" is a feminine noun in Hebrew, but a neuter noun in Greek.