He had said that the chaff and the wheat were the same plant. You used tare in your response as shown above.
So what? Does that give you an opportunity to find false accusation? It sure does, and it sure showed didn't it?
Actually you asked him when did they become the same after he said the chaff and the wheat is the same plant.
My question was clear enough. I don't deny that the "wheat" has chaff, but he cannot deny that the darnel or tare is also chaff and that they are NOT the same plant, though they may "look alike."
Perhaps it was unintentional but it is there.
I asked that way "on purpose." You see from Craig's body, as yours, you both present that there is NO DEVIL but mankind, Gods offspring. I personally have an "issue" with that presentation. I don't see the "wheat" to be the "same as" the TARE. Why should you hold a factual DIFFERENCE against me? I can certainly read and discern the difference without taking offense.
No one is promoting that anyone are "Devils"
Your position is clear enough. Without a separate entity as THE DEVIL you have little wiggle room left but to the remaining parties, God and your fellow man. The simplicity of that logic seems to continually evade you. At least your buddy, KCDAD, has admitted that he is the devil, as that CONCLUSION is his inevitable and only position, and I do appreciate that HE TOOK THAT POSITION to himself. At least that is an HONEST conclusion, even though I disagree with the scriptural validity of that presentation.
yet you keep saying they are while refusing to offer us your definition of what devil means. No one is promoting Jesus as SATAN either.
Look, if you want to chase your tail, that's your business. My observation however will remain most logical as well as the inevitable conclusion, that Jesus spoke to Himself as SATAN. Craig has openly admitted that is his view as well, though he will pile on a lotta words to "obscure" that presentation, as you will come to see, just as you cover.
Interestign that you seemingly always avoid questions and come back with this sort of nonsense instead of an answer.
You'll have to be more specific with your "critique." A hollow statement without factual connections will remain just another false accusation. ho hum and boo hoo.
Really? Yet in almost every response you persist in making false allegations and false perceptions.
Then "prove it." It does no good to make unsubstantiated statements without factual attachments. Witnesses present "factual observations" not what rattles around in their own heads pretending it's the other guy's position.
I have not pronounced that anyone are devils
As stated, if there is NO SEPARATE ENTITY called SATAN OR DEVILS then you have only the remaining parties to the transaction to BE THOSE THINGS. This observation will remain a FACT no matter how hard you try to avoid your own presentation. Go down the funnel with your presentation because that IS where it will LAND.
and I will thank you to stop telling lies to this effect.
Oh? What "lie" might that be again? I see a whole lotta slingin and not much in the way of FACT. Get real or move on.
In fact when I asked you what you meant by devil you refused to answer the question,
Since WHEN? I accept that there is a SEPARATE WORKING OF EVIL, SIN AND DEATH that is personified by A SEPARATE SPIRIT than either mankind or God or Jesus called ANTI-CHRIST SPIRITS, and have said so from the start. So again, your just blowin' smoke.
instead you just continue with more nonsense and untrue statements.
You just don't like where your own position is pushing you to and you're going kicking and screaming down your own pipe.
Who says anything about how I feel or any such thing.
Here was your statement, presumably in an attempt to be hung around my neck:
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Perhaps I am wrong here but I do not recall arrogance as being one of the fruits of the spirit."
Rather than approaching this subject "factually" you suppose to instead call me "arrogant?" lol
I have no problems standing up for what I believe to be true and have never indicatd otherwise.
Then tell me who Jesus spoke to in the desert AS SATAN if there IS NO SATAN??? It'll come to you sooner or later...
I do have a problem with someone insisting that I am saying things that have not been said.
It's not that you SAID what I asked, it's that you can't bring yourself to ADDRESS the question. You would not be the first guy to tell me that Jesus was talking to Himself AS SATAN, but Jesus was NOT talking to Himself AS SATAN. I love to see that little ring around the toilet. It's a real hoot!
hmm.. I would disagree as to the statement that it is not your problem. You come across as extremely arrogant and that is a problem if you expect people to consider what you have to say.
whatever dude. spin away. chase yer own tail. I do get a kick out of it, as sad as it is to see.
enjoy!
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