Hungarian PM Shuns Biden and choses to meet with Trump instead

[adrianmonk]

Welcome to 2024. Happens all the time.

It is actually a term from the 1800's:

From the Urban Dictionary:

Crackers were poor white folk who lived in the south during the antebellum era. Given their name because of their staple diet of crack-corn, crackers were often hired by plantation owners in order to replace a slave in dangerous jobs. The high prices of slaves during the 1830s and 40s made It efficient to use a cracker rather than a slave. If a planter lost or injured a slave he would be pressed to buy another slave, but if the cracker got injured or died, finacially, the planter would have been unaffected. Crackers had a very low standard of living. Many of them lived in forests and dug holes in the ground to live in. despite their living conditions and their social status, crackers stilled believed they were better than the african slaves. Today, cracker is often used as a derogatory term for a white person for obvious reasons. It implies a person who lives in the utmost worst conditions and a person who no one really cares about.​

I am pretty sure he meant wisecracker. Different term. But you knew that as well. But in case you didn't.

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[Michie]

Definition of WISECRACK

a clever or sarcastic remark… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

There are comedy clubs called Wisecrackers, etc. Never heard of it being a racist term.

Cracker yeah but wisecracker??

 

[DaisyDay]

I rarely see anyone wearing a cross necklace and see Christians all the time. I'm a Christian woman and don't own one.

I'm just saying, most people don't wear symbols on them like some do, instead they choose to let their lives and character glorify God so that Christ is glorified among men in this way.

A normal outdoor gathering of very real American Christians can look just like that picture...

So, as you say, there is nothing to identify them as American or Christian; they could just as easily be Dutch Zoroastrians.

 

[rambot]

Why would anyone WANT to associate with that guy anyways? Don't think I've ever heard a positive word said about Orban

 

[A2SG]

I rarely see anyone wearing a cross necklace and see Christians all the time. I'm a Christian woman and don't own one.

I'm just saying, most people don't wear symbols on them like some do, instead they choose to let their lives and character glorify God so that Christ is glorified among men in this way.

A normal outdoor gathering of very real American Christians can look just like that picture...

And a staged group of actors and models intended to appear to be "very real American Christians" would look exactly like that picture.

And, let's remember, advertising companies stage stock photos like that all the time.

Here's one:

And another:

And yet another:

Oops.

-- A2SG, just sayin'....

 

[ViaCrucis]

Welcome to 2024. Happens all the time.

A wisecracker, a person who engages in wisecracking, is not a racist term. And I have a hard time believing that you don't know this.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Definition of WISECRACK

a clever or sarcastic remark… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

There are comedy clubs called Wisecrackers, etc. Never heard of it being a racist term.

Cracker yeah but wisecracker??

It's an act of being deliberately dishonest. He knows what a wisecracker is, he's just engaged in bad faith acting.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Hazelelponi]

It's an act of being deliberately dishonest. He knows what a wisecracker is, he's just engaged in bad faith acting.

-CryptoLutheran

Is a wisecracker deliberately dishonest?

No... Another interchangeable term for wisecracker is a smart alec

And I was being a bit of a smart alec and @returntosender knows it - hence the mention... Lol.

Other people? They might not know they are being wisecrackers which means they might not be a wisecracker at all.

 

[Hazelelponi]

There's some pretty funny wise crackers posting in this thread. Guffaw.

Love you brother... And yes. I was being a wisecracker.

In my defense however it's true. I respect what the office of presidency was all my life, but I don't respect in any way the person who is sitting in it at the moment.

If I was anyone but who I am in this moment, there's no way I would be able to manage even a modicum of politeness.

I agree we need to move the national temperature down and get back to working on issues but to be honest I don't know how...How? Pretend?? That's not something real... And we do need real.

This is the fight of our lives and everything is now at stake. So I'm being real and trying to keep the wisecracks to a minimum... the best I can.

So please forgive me my occasionally wisecracking self...

 

[returntosender]

It's an act of being deliberately dishonest. He knows what a wisecracker is, he's just engaged in bad faith acting.

-CryptoLutheran

It's not being dishonest. It's a wise guy jokester.

 

[BCP1928]

And a staged group of actors and models intended to appear to be "very real American Christians" would look exactly like that picture.

And, let's remember, advertising companies stage stock photos like that all the time.

Here's one:

And another:

And yet another:

Oops.

-- A2SG, just sayin'....

Of course, and "look like American Christians" is very telling as to what "American Christianity: is all about--that is, the culture not the faith.

 

[BCP1928]

Hungarian PM Orban to meet ally Trump on March 8

Hungary's nationalist Prime Minister Viktor Orban will meet former U.S. President Donald Trump this coming Friday in Florida, shortly after he openly endorsed his long-time ally's bid to return to the U.S. presidency this year.

www.reuters.com

BUDAPEST, March 4 (Reuters) - Hungary's nationalist Prime Minister Viktor Orban will meet former U.S. President Donald Trump this coming Friday in Florida, shortly after he openly endorsed his long-time ally's bid to return to the U.S. presidency this year.
The right-wing Orban, who has regularly been at loggerheads with the EU over his anti-immigration campaigns and moves to put the judiciary, NGOs, and media under more state control, has been described by Trump as a "great leader".

Orban's conservative family policies have also earned praise among populist figures in the United States, and Hungary has hosted meetings of CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference, in the past years.

Evidently CPAC doesn't really know what is actually going on in Hungary or they wouldn't be so eager to have Trump hang out with Orban. Hungary has strict gun control, liberal family leave policies, free child care, Universal health coverage, low cost higher ed, outstanding public transportation and many other perks which are anathema to US conservatives.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Is a wisecracker deliberately dishonest?

No... Another interchangeable term for wisecracker is a smart alec

And I was being a bit of a smart alec and @returntosender knows it - hence the mention... Lol.

Other people? They might not know they are being wisecrackers which means they might not be a wisecracker at all.

A wisecracker isn't deliberately dishonest.

But someone claiming that "wisecracker" is an anti-white slur because the word "cracker" has been used that way--that's dishonest. Which is what happened earlier in this thread.

It's entirely possible the poster has simply never heard of the term "wisecracker" before--but chances of that are slim to none.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[7thKeeper]

Evidently CPAC doesn't really know what is actually going on in Hungary or they wouldn't be so eager to have Trump hang out with Orban. Hungary has strict gun control, liberal family leave policies, free child care, Universal health coverage, low cost higher ed, outstanding public transportation and many other perks which are anathema to US conservatives.

Yeah, but he hates "teh gay" and likes Putin so it's ok to ignore all the other stuff.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Of course, and "look like American Christians" is very telling as to what "American Christianity: is all about--that is, the culture not the faith.

American Christianity is a culture and a way of life. And it's a beautiful one when it reflects Christ - which many do daily. I'll quote from Jonathan Haidt below:

"I got my first teaching position at the University of Virginia,” he told the CCCU. UVA draws students from all over the country, but especially from the western and southern parts of the state.

“I had never met evangelical Christians, growing up in New York and going to Ivy League schools,” Haidt said. (He received a BA from Yale University and a PhD from the UVA, then did postdoctoral work at the University of Chicago.) “Of course they were there, but they weren’t as ‘out’ as they were at UVA.”

Haidt’s Christian students “radiated a kind of sweetness, a kind of warmth and gentleness and humility that I hadn’t seen before,” he said. “It was really lovely.”

He saw the same “warmth and openness and love” from evangelical churches he visited as part of a class on moral communities. “It was really beautiful, and it touched my heart. And when your heart is open, then your mind is open.”

As one who studies morality, Haidt was also impressed with the Bible (“among the richest repositories of psychological wisdom ever assembled”) and with the actions of Christians (“religious conservative Americans are . . . more generous with their time and money [than secular Americans]”).

“I started realizing that the scientific community at that time . . . was really underestimating and misunderstanding religion,” he said.

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Jonathan Haidt, an atheist professor in New York, is changing the way Christian leaders think about politics.

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[BCP1928]

Yeah, but he hates "teh gay" and likes Putin so it's ok to ignore all the other stuff.

Yes, Orban is an autocrat with a stick in one hand, but he has a carrot in the other. Trump's supporters just want the stick.