USSOCOM contracts out AI that targets "disinformation"

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I feel like everyday I grow more and more convinced of "dead internet" theory...
In a country where we supposedly have freedom of speech, who decides what is, and isnt?

"The US Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) has contracted New York-based Accrete AI to deploy software that detects “real time” disinformation threats on social media."

 

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I feel like everyday I grow more and more convinced of "dead internet" theory...
In a country where we supposedly have freedom of speech, who decides what is, and isnt?

"The US Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) has contracted New York-based Accrete AI to deploy software that detects “real time” disinformation threats on social media."

Would you prefer we not know when something is fake?
 
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Would you prefer we not know when something is fake?
Why cant we make that decision ourselves though?

Makes me think of...

Mat 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

I think we all need to exercise our own discernment.
 
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Let's take the Satanic Panic of the 1980s. Daycare centers were being accused of practicing Satanism. False accusations destroyed careers and lives. All it takes is a handful of people to falsely accuse people of "Ritual Satanic Abuse" and destroy their livelihood. However, those who make the accusations suffer no penalties for those false accusations. Where would you stand on that?
 
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Let's take the Satanic Panic of the 1980s. Daycare centers were being accused of practicing Satanism. False accusations destroyed careers and lives. All it takes is a handful of people to falsely accuse people of "Ritual Satanic Abuse" and destroy their livelihood. However, those who make the accusations suffer no penalties for those false accusations. Where would you stand on that?
Just off observing the times, look at the music industry, its filled with satanic images and open satanic worship. The state of Texas (last time I checked) was in litigation with the Church of Satan. You got that show Lucifer, where satan is supposed to be the good guy!
So what you were talking about doesnt seem to far fetched...

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Why cant we make that decision ourselves though?

Your opinion has zero bearing on whether or not something is a fabrication or otherwise part of some larger disinformation. You can choose to like it or believe it or whatever, but when it comes to the source of the material, your opinions are irrelevant. Regarding the outright fakes, they fakes are (or will be) really good and you (and I) are likely too ignorant to tell the difference.

It'd be no different than owning a forged painting. You are welcome to think that something is pretty and that you'd like to hang it on your wall, but you don't get to decide whether or not it's an original Monet.

Regarding disinformation, that gets fuzzier, but I'd still rather know if the propaganda I'm receiving is truly the result of a larger swell of public sentiment, or just the result of a bot farm gaming an algorithm.


Makes me think of...

Mat 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

I think we all need to exercise our own discernment.

You're literally arguing for blindness.
 
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.....I think we all need to exercise our own discernment.
I'm losing my faith in many peoples capacity for that. They prefer that a certain story gets told, one that pushes the right emotional buttons, regardless of whether its true or not.
 
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You're literally arguing for blindness.
Definitely not! All I am saying is I think we should take that responsibility on ourselves, and not just blindly trust our government, or anyone for that matter. While we are still prone to being deceived, I think we are much more prone to that if we just trust what we are told, and not look into it ourselves. I mean "the experts" are people too, they aren't perfect. Now we are supposedly going to rely on AI to make the decision for us of what is/isnt true?
 
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Just off observing the times, look at the music industry, its filled with satanic images and open satanic worship.
No, it isn't. A couple (mostly metal) genres use occultic imagery because it's spooky, but you could probably count on your fingers the number of bands who truly participated in "satanic worship." Substance abuse and sex are things. Satanism is not. Even the drugs and sex are becoming less of a thing since the industry has gotten more professional and there's so much more money on the line.
 
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Definitely not! All I am saying is I think we should take that responsibility on ourselves, and not just blindly trust our government, or anyone for that matter. While we are still prone to being deceived, I think we are much more prone to that if we just trust what we are told, and not look into it ourselves. I mean "the experts" are people too, they aren't perfect. Now we are supposedly going to rely on AI to make the decision for us of what is/isnt true?
Unless you're doing your own original journalism (you're not), you're already relying on others (including, but not limited to, AI) to decide for you what is and isn't true. To wit: your OP cited zerohedge, a website that peddles conspiracy theories, and you've repeated false propaganda about satanism, the music industry, and day cares. You're already outsourcing your decision-making, without even realizing it.
 
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No, it isn't. A couple (mostly metal) genres use occultic imagery because it's spooky, but you could probably count on your fingers the number of bands who truly participated in "satanic worship." Substance abuse and sex are things. Satanism is not. Even the drugs and sex are becoming less of a thing since the industry has gotten more professional and there's so much more money on the line.
What? Look at rap...

Little Nas X... in general




Its in baseball...


It's in Target

 
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Unless you're doing your own original journalism (you're not), you're already relying on others (including, but not limited to, AI) to decide for you what is and isn't true. To wit: your OP cited zerohedge, a website that peddles conspiracy theories, and you've repeated false propaganda about satanism, the music industry, and day cares. You're already outsourcing your decision-making, without even realizing it.
I may not be a literal journalist but I can still do my own research...

Clearly we dont see eye to eye on the matter, and that's ok. I still want to do by own digging on something before I believe it. For me that means looking at more than the headline, and more than just one site, and more than just the "echo-chamber". Ultimately though, I trust the Bible, and what does that say about satan in the world? What I see, matches up with what scripture tells me.
 
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I may not be a literal journalist but I can still do my own research...

If you're conflating the metaphor of "she's a devil" with actual satanism, then you're doing a pretty poor job of researching things. You're latching onto an extremely shallow interpretation of the visuals and ignoring even a plain reading of the lyrics.
 
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If you're conflating the metaphor of "she's a devil" with actual satanism, then you're doing a pretty poor job of researching things. You're latching onto an extremely shallow interpretation of the visuals and ignoring even a plain reading of the lyrics.
Anything opposed to God's word, leads to destruction.
Do you need someone to say they explicitly worship satan to consider it satanism?

Mat 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.
Mat 7:14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.
 
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Just off observing the times, look at the music industry, its filled with satanic images and open satanic worship. The state of Texas (last time I checked) was in litigation with the Church of Satan. You got that show Lucifer, where satan is supposed to be the good guy!
So what you were talking about doesnt seem to far fetched...

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Uh that's from the card game Illuminati, which has nothing to do with my question. So if I accuse your church of RSA, and simply spread rumors, and cause members to leave your church and maybe even sue your church, you have no problem with that?
 
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I'm losing my faith in many peoples capacity for that. They prefer that a certain story gets told, one that pushes the right emotional buttons, regardless of whether its true or not.

Yes, the last few years have demonstrated how fallable people are at filtering information. Everyone defines their own "truth." Frankly, I think our society and country is doomed.
 
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Uh that's from the card game Illuminati, which has nothing to do with my question. So if I accuse your church of RSA, and simply spread rumors, and cause members to leave your church and maybe even sue your church, you have no problem with that?
I'm not sure what you mean by "RSA".
I go to church, but I don't hold any major allegiance to my Church, I am more concerned with the Bible, and having a relationship with Jesus. If my Church that I attend is straying from biblical doctrine, yes I would have a problem with that.
 
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Why cant we make that decision ourselves though?

Makes me think of...

Mat 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

I think we all need to exercise our own discernment.
Because humans a very susceptible to believing what they want to be true over what is actually true.
 
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Yes, the last few years have demonstrated how fallable people are at filtering information. Everyone defines their own "truth." Frankly, I think our society and country is doomed.
Truth will be back and everyone should be ready to meet him.

The OP is correct who decides what is or is not misinformation, we certainly cannot leave that up to the deceivers.
 
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No, it isn't. A couple (mostly metal) genres use occultic imagery because it's spooky, but you could probably count on your fingers the number of bands who truly participated in "satanic worship." Substance abuse and sex are things. Satanism is not. Even the drugs and sex are becoming less of a thing since the industry has gotten more professional and there's so much more money on the line.
Just to add to the list. Do you know who Aleistar Crowley is?


But those are all just coincidences... Right?
 
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