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Zimmerman Prosecutor Files Gag Order Against Defense

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Panzerkamfwagen, Oct 25, 2012.

  1. DrkSdBls

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    Zimmerman "Stalked" Martin by his own Admission. "Threaten" is not a Legal Term but rather Implicit given the Circumstance.

    Since you clearly demonstrated you have no Concept or Respect of Law and clearly just Baiting now, I won't even dignified that.

    Not yet but he will. And here's hoping he Zimmerman gets a Big Black Cell Mate with with a Taste for Child Killers.
     
  2. DrkSdBls

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    Says the Killer.

    He had a Scratch on his head. Evidence of a Struggle, such as when Zimmerman pulled his gun on Martin and Martin tackled Zimmerman trying to Wrestle the Gun away.

    The released autopsy, yes. But, like I said, the reason the Case was sealed indicates that the there is more Information somewhere that the the Judge does not want released because he doesn't want to Prejudice the Jury. I was only being Hypothetical.

    Won't Dignify that with an answer either. You can't claim Evidence that you don't know is true.
     
  3. MachZer0

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    Never happened
     
  4. DrkSdBls

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    Yes, and that's why this "Stand your ground" Law has been a Disaster.

    I Live in Florida, 10 mins from Sanford and I even Worked in that same Housing Development (I wasn't working that night) So I think I have a little right to feel a little connected to this matter.

    But that aside, this was a Travesty of Justice simply because of the Fact that Zimmerman believed that he had a Right to put himself and Martin in this position in the first place, all because of this stupid Law and Zimmerman's taking the law into his own hands.

    If any good comes out of this, It'll be that Law gets over-turned.
     
  5. DrkSdBls

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    stalk
    (used without object)
    1.to pursue or approach prey, quarry, etc., stealthily.
    2.to walk with measured, stiff, or haughty strides:
    3.to proceed in a steady, deliberate, or sinister manner: too pursue
    4.Obsolete . to walk or go stealthily along.
     
  6. MachZer0

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    Zimmerman admitted to none of that
     
  7. DrkSdBls

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    Next you'll be telling me he says he didn't shoot Martin either.

    He Followed Martin. He pursued him in his Vehicle and then got out and Followed him on Foot (after the Police dispatch told him not to) - per his own testimony.

    Either way, I'm done arguing with you. You're not saying anything that 2 mins reading the transcripts could debunk so you're just trying to agitate and I'm through with you.
     
  8. MachZer0

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    Dispatcher: We don't need you to do that [follow Martin]

    Zimmerman: OK
     
  9. razeontherock

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    Threatening is not only a legal term but a FELONY! You're planning on prosecuting Z for it? Oh and I'd like to see Z's admission of stalking Martin


    You're sick. And to think, you just got done talking about respect for the law :sick:
     
  10. razeontherock

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    You really do think Trayvon was the stupidest person on Earth - and yo still defend him. *SMH*
     
  11. Gxg (G²)

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    My grandmother, who lives in Florida near the area where Trayvon was, talked with me on the subject and she had some of the same sentiments you had.
     
  12. Panzerkamfwagen

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    Yes. And the police said that they don't have any evidence to contradict his statements. So why is he in jail again?

    How much of a wound do you need to have in your head to cause traumatic brain injury?

    You mean Judge Lester? He sure was favorable to the defense, wasn't he.

    If his school records showed that he was a model child, I have no doubt that Benjamin Crump, Esq. would have gotten the family to release them. They probably show that Trayvon Martin was a feral miscreant. From what I understand, the reason that he was at the housing development in the first place was because he didn't behave in school. If the school records showed that #NO_LIMIT_ASTRONAUT was a model child, I have no doubt that they'd be out there. Look at the pictures that everyone uses.

    You mean the position of getting himself beat up in a fight?

    What good would that do?

    The state is also prosecuting his wife for perjury, and in that affidavit, they omit several key pieces of her testimony, oh, and another judge referred to the assets that she supposedly perjured herself about as "other people's money." How can one have assets that are "other people's money?"
     
  13. Gxg (G²)

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  14. Uphill Battle

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    evidence to date indicates as such. You may by all means attempt to condemn me to hell for my statements.


    Ah. In league with Satan.

    you'll pardon me for ignoring the holier than thou rhetoric.

    Then it's a remarkably stupid law.

    Except that it already WAS a remarkably stupid law to begin with.
    He is charged with 2nd degree murder. The fact that he was following Trayvon, and that there is enough evidence to charge him with murder, speaks to the situation.
    Yet, he did follow him. He admitted as much (or, if you make the argument that he stopped at that moment, you're going to have to figure out how Zimmerman was out of the car to shoot Trayvon when he "didn't know where the kid was." (from the transcript.) I mean seriously. You think he's going to harm you? Stay in the car. Trayvon had no weapons of any kind. Unless assault with a deadly iced tea was submitted for evidence. Zimmerman forced confrontation. It's abundantly clear.


    good stuff.
     
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  16. MachZer0

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    The evidence suggests otherwise. That's why he was originally released and not charged.

    It's not stupid since the attacker doesn't have to have a weapon in order to either cause you great bodily harm or kill you

    When the 911 person told Zimmerman he didn't need to follow Martin, Zimmerman acquiesced. Under oath, the lead investigator for the State testified that there was no evidence that Zimmerman continued following Marin after that point
     
  17. Uphill Battle

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    he is currently charged. That would suggest evidence has been in favour of indictment.


    True. So every time someone looks suspiciously black, and is close by, you have justification to shoot them in self defense. Heck, you even have the right to leave your home, go on to your neighbours yard, and shoot two men in the back (as is indicated in the case I posted before.) What utter gun kissing nonsense.

    except that he somehow found himself out of the car, with a gun in his hand, and a Dead Trayvon lying on the ground. If he did not seek confrontation, he would still be sitting in the car, waiting. He was clearly not sitting in his car. He shot him 3 odd blocks away from the car.

    I don't believe for a new york SECOND that Zimmerman didn't try and find him again, ON foot, with a gun.

    Don't get me wrong. I think Zimmerman will get off on the charges. There will be humming and hawing, but in the end, nobody in the district is going to want the "shoot first, never ask questions" mindlessness law to be challenged.
     
  18. MachZer0

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    Yes, he was charged after it became a spectacle, based on no real evidence

    If a person who "looks suspiciously black (whatever that means) sucker punches you, stradlles you, bashes your head into the ground and tells you he's going to kill you, then yes, you have the ight to kill the "suspiciously looking black" person. in Florida.

    There is no law that requires one to stay in one's car. There isn't even a law that says you can't follow a person who appears suspicious. But there is a law that says you can't sucker punch people and jump on them, bash their heads into the ground and threaten to kill them.
    He would have been perfectly within his legal rights to do so

    If he gets off, justice will have prevailed
     
  19. Uphill Battle

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    You do realize how the indictment process works, I hope.

    Except we have only the testimony of the shooter to corroberate that. Any rebuttal... oh, darn. he's dead.

    again, there is no evidence of zimmerman being jumped, or having his head bashed. None. And no, there isn't a law about staying in the car. the POINT is, Zimmerman forced confrontation, he was armed, Trayvon was not. That is cold hard fact.

    Trayvon Martin killing: witness says he saw Zimmerman walk away uninjured | World news | guardian.co.uk

    no, he wouldn't. Chasing down a guy with a gun, because he's suspiciously black, is not a legal right.

    you have a very strange and twisted sense of justice, in my opinion.
     
  20. Panzerkamfwagen

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    Yup. Zimmerman had no injuries at all.

    According to some of the motions filed by the defense, the prosecution has withheld exculpatory evidence including sketches prepared by witnesses. So they've violated Zimmeran's due process rights.

    If this EMT report is accurate, that is not true. and Zimmerman received injuries.

    From Dee Dee's testimony

    What illegal activity did George Zimmerman engage in?
     
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