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Featured You must PROVE you LOVE the LORD to be saved!

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by BCsenior, Mar 5, 2019.

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  1. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Close, but maybe no cigar.

    Did you see ANY verse in John 15 addressed to un-disciples, un-believers, or un-saved ?
     
  2. -57

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    Then it's possible to be snatched from Jesus' hand?
     
  3. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    Amen the scriptures speak of salvation sometimes as something we already have but also speaks of it as something we have not yet attained. We can be granted salvation but it can also be revoked if we fail to abide in Christ.
     
  4. -57

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    Yes. Those that don't abide were never saved.
     
  5. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    No not snatched but a person can definitely be thrown out or walk away. Notice John 15:6. John 10:29 is saying that no outside force can take away our salvation. Someone else cannot do anything to take away your salvation.
     
  6. LoveGodsWord

    LoveGodsWord Well-Known Member

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    Well that is not completely true brother read HEBREWS 6:4-8; HEBREWS 10:26-27
     
  7. BCsenior

    BCsenior Still an evangelist

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    They will be held accountable to God
    for presenting a false witness while
    all the time preaching a false gospel.

    And believe me when I warn ...
    people in hell receive varying degrees of
    punishment, which are carried out by demons!
     
  8. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    Which brings us right back to the example I gave in Ephesians 5 where Paul is warning children of God of receiving the God’s wrath for their disobedience. What did Paul say to these very same people in Ephesians 2:8?
     
  9. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    I don’t know about that I only know that all who enter hell will burn in the lake of fire.
     
  10. redleghunter

    redleghunter Thank You Jesus! Supporter

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    When does the New Birth or regeneration occur? Before or after obedience?
     
  11. -57

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    Romans 8:38For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    Romans 8 disagree's

    John 6:
    37Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never drive away. 38For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me.

    39And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day. 40For it is My Father’s will that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.”

    How can you say "We can be granted salvation but it can also be revoked if we fail to abide in Christ."
     
  12. tampasteve

    tampasteve Lutheran Messianic Staff Member Supervisor Supporter

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    MOD HAT ON

    This thread is now closed.

    MOD HAT OFF
     
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