You have a demon

[d taylor]

Demon possession was used in the Bible in the New Testament as a way for Jesus to preform some of His miracles to show the Israelite's that He (Jesus) is the promised Messiah they are looking for.

Demon possession slowly went away in the New Testament and now i do not believe people are demon possessed.

But there is mention of demon activity in the tribulation.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Why is it when the Lord intervenes in society or a person's life, they say the person is crazy or have a demon? A lot of people say they believe in the Lord, but when he actually causes a miracle in that person's life, they say you crazy, you schizo or on drugs or have a demon or that it is the devil. The Lord can cause miracles. And anything is possible for one who believes, but I think that's the thing people say they believe but when it becomes real you find out they have an unbelieving heart in that area. Even when the Lord himself came and did miracles and stuff they said he had a demon. It's either you are crazy, get needles stucked in your veins, or end up ridiculed, in jail or near a trash can somewhere. What's up with that? I know I see a lot of you tube videos of people seeing and witnessing the Lord. I mean I will be honest some do looked tampered with, then again I don't know but I do know the Lord is real and thier are people out there who have had real supernatural expierences with him. Just because another person testimony was false doesn't mean the other one is. You never know, you might actually meet a real one who is rejected and thought as crazy. And I know the Lord didn't have a demon and was the true son of God sent on Earth to do his father's will. And the Lord Jesus himself said he would send people himself also and that anyone who rejected the one he sent is rejecting him also. And the devil isnt real, he is a liar, and he only makes himself real by planting lies in our heads. Something that has no power over the Lord isnt real cause scripture says, resist the devil, draw close to the Lord and he will flee. So the devil isnt real, he's just a temporary thing that tries to make himself real and makes us believe he is real. He doesn't really exist unless we give him that power to exist in our lives. And the only reason he can flee from us if we don't let him have power over us in our minds and hearts, but the Lord is real and does intervene in our lives sometimes...

It really depends on the"supernatural experience". Jesus warned us of false miracles done in His name. It is best to be as discerning as possible when it comes to the supernatural as Satan comes as an angel of light most of the time.
That being said, a true miracle seen and proven would normally not be contested by anyone.
Blessings

 

[Swan7]

I agreed with everything you said until this.

And the devil isnt real, he is a liar, and he only makes himself real by planting lies in our heads. Something that has no power over the Lord isnt real cause scripture says, resist the devil, draw close to the Lord and he will flee. So the devil isnt real, he's just a temporary thing that tries to make himself real and makes us believe he is real. He doesn't really exist unless we give him that power to exist in our lives. And the only reason he can flee from us if we don't let him have power over us in our minds and hearts, but the Lord is real and does intervene in our lives sometimes...

Satan is very real and to diminish his existence is a mistake. I might be taking what you said quite literally rather than figuratively, but even so, I can't deny God's creation as a whole which includes good and evil. God allows even the angels free will and not only us here on earth. To say that Satan isn't real is to say the angels do not exist either.
The level of deceit on this earth is very real. This actually reminds me of when Jesus said: Matthew 12:22-32
It sounds like Jesus is defending Satan, but He is just using him as an example to correct the Pharisees.
Jesus was also tested by Satan in the wilderness.

If I'm wrong on interpreting your words, by all means, I am open to correction.

But I certainly agree with your premise of the OP. It baffles me every time I get called a Satan follower and at the same time, I am comforted because I know what Jesus went through with the exact same thing!

 

[lsume]

Why is it when the Lord intervenes in society or a person's life, they say the person is crazy or have a demon? A lot of people say they believe in the Lord, but when he actually causes a miracle in that person's life, they say you crazy, you schizo or on drugs or have a demon or that it is the devil. The Lord can cause miracles. And anything is possible for one who believes, but I think that's the thing people say they believe but when it becomes real you find out they have an unbelieving heart in that area. Even when the Lord himself came and did miracles and stuff they said he had a demon. It's either you are crazy, get needles stucked in your veins, or end up ridiculed, in jail or near a trash can somewhere. What's up with that? I know I see a lot of you tube videos of people seeing and witnessing the Lord. I mean I will be honest some do looked tampered with, then again I don't know but I do know the Lord is real and thier are people out there who have had real supernatural expierences with him. Just because another person testimony was false doesn't mean the other one is. You never know, you might actually meet a real one who is rejected and thought as crazy. And I know the Lord didn't have a demon and was the true son of God sent on Earth to do his father's will. And the Lord Jesus himself said he would send people himself also and that anyone who rejected the one he sent is rejecting him also. And the devil isnt real, he is a liar, and he only makes himself real by planting lies in our heads. Something that has no power over the Lord isnt real cause scripture says, resist the devil, draw close to the Lord and he will flee. So the devil isnt real, he's just a temporary thing that tries to make himself real and makes us believe he is real. He doesn't really exist unless we give him that power to exist in our lives. And the only reason he can flee from us if we don't let him have power over us in our minds and hearts, but the Lord is real and does intervene in our lives sometimes...

What I’ve found is that when Christ comes to the individual, the individual must be changed. The only way to understand it is to go through it. Once that happens, there is only one understanding of The Word taught directly by Christ. This might sound unreal but I assure you that it is very real and until you experience it please seek it out.

 

[Jen35]

I have two daughters who were healed through what the medical profession could only explain by saying they were, indeed, miracles. They did not not need to rely on faith to believe this. They had documented medical tests and ultrasound photos from multiple labs and medical facilities. Even with documented proof, it is difficult for both believers and nonbelievers to accept a God-given miracle. Before my baby daughter's birth an OB nurse who had been with me through a large part of what had been a heartbreaking journey transformed into into an amazing, indescribable blessing asked me, "What do you attribute this all to?" It gave me an opportunity to share with her the great number of people who had been praying for my baby's healing and the wondrous grace of God. All of the documented evidence was not enough for her. She replied, "WelI I sure hope God leaves a scar on her body where He put her back together." She still wanted more proof. I said to her, "The Lord's work is perfect. There will be no scars."

Years later when another daughter was diagnosed with a terminal illness and our faithful prayer warriors, once again, petitioned God for the healing of one of my precious children, this time I was the doubter. The Lord had already blessed our family with one miracle. How horribly arrogant to think He would give us another. Even worse, what a spoiled child of the Almighty was I to even ask for one? Most people go through their lives without experiencing one miracle of this magnititude...or even one at all. Who was I to ask or expect for two? It was difficult for me to pray, but I had to - this was my beautiful daughter who I was daily seeing transformed into a shell of who she used to be. When the test results began to change and the documented proof, once again, filled one of my child's medical folders, I felt only joy. Should I have felt guilt because I was given a second miracle? I leave that to theologians to debate. I have living proof of miracles and the workings of our Lord. Yet, because I suffer from PTSD from a traumatic childhood and live with chronic pain, the same people who prayed for my daughters point fingers at me and pray for my "deliverance" from the "demons" causing my emotional and physical issues. While the children experience God's miracles, their mother is experiencing demons??? Since I am living a full, happy life despite physical pain and emotional scars from the past, I think these Christians are judging me wrongly. I think they don't understand the miracle healing of two lovely young women so it is easier to accuse their mother of something dark. We may never understand why God does the things He does until we reach heaven. And honestly, at that point I don't think then that the answers will even matter to us any more.

Great lol

 

[Jen35]

I agreed with everything you said until this.



Satan is very real and to diminish his existence is a mistake. I might be taking what you said quite literally rather than figuratively, but even so, I can't deny God's creation as a whole which includes good and evil. God allows even the angels free will and not only us here on earth. To say that Satan isn't real is to say the angels do not exist either.
The level of deceit on this earth is very real. This actually reminds me of when Jesus said: Matthew 12:22-32
It sounds like Jesus is defending Satan, but He is just using him as an example to correct the Pharisees.
Jesus was also tested by Satan in the wilderness.

If I'm wrong on interpreting your words, by all means, I am open to correction.

But I certainly agree with your premise of the OP. It baffles me every time I get called a Satan follower and at the same time, I am comforted because I know what Jesus went through with the exact same thing!

What I said wasnt literal..I just meant the devil has no power over God, because he always seem to flee in the bible...he's like something that only stays if we let it...

 

[d taylor]

Why is it when the Lord intervenes in society or a person's life, they say the person is crazy or have a demon?

Are you talking about now or is this a reference to the Bible

If it is about something now do you have an example of what you are talking about

 

[lsume]

Why is it when the Lord intervenes in society or a person's life, they say the person is crazy or have a demon? A lot of people say they believe in the Lord, but when he actually causes a miracle in that person's life, they say you crazy, you schizo or on drugs or have a demon or that it is the devil. The Lord can cause miracles. And anything is possible for one who believes, but I think that's the thing people say they believe but when it becomes real you find out they have an unbelieving heart in that area. Even when the Lord himself came and did miracles and stuff they said he had a demon. It's either you are crazy, get needles stucked in your veins, or end up ridiculed, in jail or near a trash can somewhere. What's up with that? I know I see a lot of you tube videos of people seeing and witnessing the Lord. I mean I will be honest some do looked tampered with, then again I don't know but I do know the Lord is real and thier are people out there who have had real supernatural expierences with him. Just because another person testimony was false doesn't mean the other one is. You never know, you might actually meet a real one who is rejected and thought as crazy. And I know the Lord didn't have a demon and was the true son of God sent on Earth to do his father's will. And the Lord Jesus himself said he would send people himself also and that anyone who rejected the one he sent is rejecting him also. And the devil isnt real, he is a liar, and he only makes himself real by planting lies in our heads. Something that has no power over the Lord isnt real cause scripture says, resist the devil, draw close to the Lord and he will flee. So the devil isnt real, he's just a temporary thing that tries to make himself real and makes us believe he is real. He doesn't really exist unless we give him that power to exist in our lives. And the only reason he can flee from us if we don't let him have power over us in our minds and hearts, but the Lord is real and does intervene in our lives sometimes...

Have you ever wondered why the Israelites had to kill every living thing in certain tribes? What about the great flood? If what was left was demon possessed it had to be taken out. Of course God can do whatever it takes so long as it fits His Glorious being. Possession is very real and when Christ returns for good they will be on there way out. I don’t try to find that kind of evil around me because I pray for Christ to keep all unclean and evil spirits far from not only be but all born again Christians.

 

[lsume]

All of us in Jesus have supernatural experience, of how God in us has us living His word. For example, here is how we live and love because of the Holy Spirit in us >

"Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (Ephesians 4:31-32)

"And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful." (Colossians 3:15)

I understand you mean we can refuse to let Satan effect how we live. And our Apostle Paul does say,

"nor give place to the devil." (Ephesians 4:27)

So, we do well not to let Satan decide how we are thinking . . . like I think you said in your post.

So, Satan does exist. And God does allow Satan to test us.

And there is "the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience," our Apostle Paul does say in Ephesians 2:2. And Satan's spirit has emotions and drives which are dominating and dictatorial and controlling attention away from submitting to how God rules us in His own peace. So, yes we always need to submit to how God guides our attention, and not give in to worry and hurry and fighting and struggling for what we want.

When Christ was speaking to me a great deal as I was brought along, I was taught that we are only expected to fight what man can fight while The GodHead handles all of the spiritual battles that are beyond us. The way that I was taught this was enlightening for sure.

 

[Jen35]

Are you talking about now or is this a reference to the Bible

If it is about something now do you have an example of what you are talking about

no I was just ranting why?

 

[Jen35]

When Christ was speaking to me a great deal as I was brought along, I was taught that we are only expected to fight what man can fight while The GodHead handles all of the spiritual battles that are beyond us. The way that I was taught this was enlightening for sure.

Yeah I know hehe thanks

 

[Jen35]

Have you ever wondered why the Israelites had to kill every living thing in certain tribes? What about the great flood? If what was left was demon possessed it had to be taken out. Of course God can do whatever it takes so long as it fits His Glorious being. Possession is very real and when Christ returns for good they will be on there way out. I don’t try to find that kind of evil around me because I pray for Christ to keep all unclean and evil spirits far from not only be but all born again Christians.

Well I know that but possession can come from many things..

 

[d taylor]

no I was just ranting why?

Did not know if you were describing an actual occurrence or having questions about the Bible and demon possession

 

[Swan7]

What I said wasnt literal..I just meant the devil has no power over God, because he always seem to flee in the bible...he's like something that only stays if we let it...

Ahh, thanks for clarifying. Yes, Satan is definitely a copy-cat, a fake worker, when it comes to God and His Kingdom.

 

[lsume]

Well I know that but possession can come from many things..

Not when your Sealed in The Holy Spirit.

 

[Jen35]

Did not know if you were describing an actual occurrence or having questions about the Bible and demon possession

Is there an actual occurrence happening because I don't know..do you know something

 

[Blade]

Many believers are moved by what they see and feel. Jesus said.. these signs shall follow them that believe. In my name cast out demons. The 12 were over joyed that the demons were subject unto them. The devil is very real. So are the 1/3 fallen angels. And the demons. Demons need a host.. something to live in.. fallen angels do not.

Can a believer have a demon? Yes.. I believe its more like attached so to speak. Possessed? I do not believe. Never seen it. A demon..yes. I LOVE LOVE music. When I was young I had allot of albums. I loved acid rock. In this bible study I went to, one day when they were praying for me.. she said " the lord shows me black albums. You need to brake them through them away". I had Boston, Stix, Kiss etc. A week or two later when they were praying she said "I still see those albums.. you need to get rid of those".

There is so much music that is not evil in any way.. just has no life in it. And there are some that are evil. They had no clue as to what kind of music I had. To help those that don't believe. At the same time I had a wort on my left palm. As they were praying for it.. juuuust before he stopped praying.. says "and lord get rid of those worts between his toes." NO ONE not even my parents new about them. Back then.. we didnt have anything for them. About a week later.. EVERY ONE was gone.. never had one since.

Most go by what they see and hear and feel. And we do so much that just invites them. Duh. there not real..so we can do anything watch anything.. we can handle it. There is a devil.. and they ALL come to steal kill and destroy. Not believing in them.. makes them happy. We are free do do anything.. there is a darkness around many of us.. because of what we do hear see. Ask Him.. to show you IF your doing something HE would not like.. ASK HIM! Hes real.. He is IN YOU! But.. YOU have to WANT to.. or He wont say a word.

 

[Monk Brendan]

Why is it when the Lord intervenes in society or a person's life, they say the person is crazy or have a demon? A lot of people say they believe in the Lord, but when he actually causes a miracle in that person's life, they say you crazy, you schizo or on drugs or have a demon or that it is the devil. The Lord can cause miracles. And anything is possible for one who believes, but I think that's the thing people say they believe but when it becomes real you find out they have an unbelieving heart in that area. Even when the Lord himself came and did miracles and stuff they said he had a demon. It's either you are crazy, get needles stucked in your veins, or end up ridiculed, in jail or near a trash can somewhere. What's up with that? I know I see a lot of you tube videos of people seeing and witnessing the Lord. I mean I will be honest some do looked tampered with, then again I don't know but I do know the Lord is real and thier are people out there who have had real supernatural expierences with him. Just because another person testimony was false doesn't mean the other one is. You never know, you might actually meet a real one who is rejected and thought as crazy. And I know the Lord didn't have a demon and was the true son of God sent on Earth to do his father's will. And the Lord Jesus himself said he would send people himself also and that anyone who rejected the one he sent is rejecting him also. And the devil isnt real, he is a liar, and he only makes himself real by planting lies in our heads. Something that has no power over the Lord isnt real cause scripture says, resist the devil, draw close to the Lord and he will flee. So the devil isnt real, he's just a temporary thing that tries to make himself real and makes us believe he is real. He doesn't really exist unless we give him that power to exist in our lives. And the only reason he can flee from us if we don't let him have power over us in our minds and hearts, but the Lord is real and does intervene in our lives sometimes...

The important thing about this or that supernatural sign is what doctrine comes with it.

I once heard a wandering charismatic preacher, who said that Jesus could not perform any miracles after His Resurrection, because He didn't have a physical body, and the Holy Spirit nees a physical body to manifest through.

I won't bore you by pointing out the numerous errors in this.

But my point is that the listeners were eating his garbage with a spoon.

 

[d taylor]

Is there an actual occurrence happening because I don't know..do you know something

No nothing today, all occurrences are in the Bible

 

[Mel333]

Why is it when the Lord intervenes in society or a person's life, they say the person is crazy or have a demon? A lot of people say they believe in the Lord, but when he actually causes a miracle in that person's life, they say you crazy, you schizo or on drugs or have a demon or that it is the devil. The Lord can cause miracles. And anything is possible for one who believes, but I think that's the thing people say they believe but when it becomes real you find out they have an unbelieving heart in that area. Even when the Lord himself came and did miracles and stuff they said he had a demon. It's either you are crazy, get needles stucked in your veins, or end up ridiculed, in jail or near a trash can somewhere. What's up with that? I know I see a lot of you tube videos of people seeing and witnessing the Lord. I mean I will be honest some do looked tampered with, then again I don't know but I do know the Lord is real and thier are people out there who have had real supernatural expierences with him. Just because another person testimony was false doesn't mean the other one is. You never know, you might actually meet a real one who is rejected and thought as crazy. And I know the Lord didn't have a demon and was the true son of God sent on Earth to do his father's will. And the Lord Jesus himself said he would send people himself also and that anyone who rejected the one he sent is rejecting him also. And the devil isnt real, he is a liar, and he only makes himself real by planting lies in our heads. Something that has no power over the Lord isnt real cause scripture says, resist the devil, draw close to the Lord and he will flee. So the devil isnt real, he's just a temporary thing that tries to make himself real and makes us believe he is real. He doesn't really exist unless we give him that power to exist in our lives. And the only reason he can flee from us if we don't let him have power over us in our minds and hearts, but the Lord is real and does intervene in our lives sometimes...

Perhaps it's just a way of denying God and His power like you said. It could be driven by fear.

It reminds me of the story of Adam and Eve fleeing the Lord in the garden when he was walking and they hid in fear from the Lord when they had their eyes opened to good and evil. Perhaps denial is a way to cope with the fear of God's power.

I enjoy reading your threads.