Yes, the Filioque is important.

[gurneyhalleck1]

 

[~Anastasia~]

Holy Thread Necromancy, Batman!!!

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Some things ARE better left buried

(And two pages of responses since this morning? Not sure I can keep up, but then I haven't been able to for a few weeks.)

 

[RobNJ]

(And two pages of responses since this morning? Not sure I can keep up, but then I haven't been able to for a few weeks.)

You're not missing much

 

[Barney2.0]

that's not how the Western Councils in the Middle Ages defined it. it wasn't just through the Son, but from the Son as the Son is the Spirit's origin as well.

this is heretical.

Which councils, and can you bring the exact statement from those councils confirming what you said?

 

[ArmyMatt]

Which councils and can you bring the exact statement from those councils confirming what you said?

already did in previous threads.

 

[Erik Nelson]

Some theological background on the "inner life" Of the Godhead being discussed:

The Trinity in the Old Testament (Part 4): The Divine Logos

 

[Erik Nelson]

Genesis 1 states that "God says" such and such. And then "God makes" such and such. Think that's how John 1 and Psalms 33:6 come to envision the "Word" of God "making" everything.

Genesis one also portrays the spirit of God. At work during creation. From the Hebrew Ruach which means "breath."

So the Triune Godhead is God the father. God's word dabar which creates And God's breath ruach which enlivens

Psalms 33:6 LXX
by the word of the Lord all the heavens were established and by the breath of his mouth all their power.

Genesis 1:26-27
and God said let us make humans... And God made humans.
Genesis 2:7
God made Adam... and blew into his nostrils the breath of life.

Incidentally notice that the Serpent was created, genesis 3:1.

 

[Barney2.0]

already did in previous threads.

Which thread and page number?

 

[ArmyMatt]

Which thread and page number?

many, usually with some of the ones you started. I really don't have the time to look for something we already talked about.

you can find it, if you look.

 

[Barney2.0]

many, usually with some of the ones you started. I really don't have the time to look for something we already talked about.

you can find it, if you look.

Your not being very cooperative with me, especially since you made the claim not me.

 

[RobNJ]

Your not being very cooperative with me, especially since you made the claim not me.

Well, he told you where to search, for answers you were previously given... You want the info, make the effort.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Your not being very cooperative with me, especially since you made the claim not me.

you asked me to do something for you, which you can easily do yourself. this subject was brought up the last time you tried to defend the Filioque on here.

 

[prodromos]

Your not being very cooperative with me, especially since you made the claim not me.

You have seen all his recent posts on the subject before, because they have been in threads which you started and participated in.
IOW stop being lazy.

 

[Barney2.0]

You have seen all his recent posts on the subject before, because they have been in threads which you started and participated in.
IOW stop being lazy.

Which threads? Don't appreciate the name calling.

 

[Barney2.0]

you asked me to do something for you, which you can easily do yourself. this subject was brought up the last time you tried to defend the Filioque on here.

You didn't bring any thing from any council declaring the Son to be an originator of the Holy Spirit as far as I remember.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Woahh. Gurney says all the time to use the search feature and gets yelled at!!

 

[ArmyMatt]

You didn't bring any thing from any council declaring the Son to be an originator of the Holy Spirit as far as I remember.

yeah, I did.

 

[TheLostCoin]

Which councils, and can you bring the exact statement from those councils confirming what you said?

Council of Florence.

 

[Barney2.0]

Council of Florence.

Which Canon? As far as I read the Council of Florence conflates the two terms "Through the Son" and "And the Son" as being equal.

 

[ArmyMatt]

and here we go again...