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Ye olde anti-vaxxers ...

Discussion in 'Physical & Life Sciences' started by A_Thinker, Sep 13, 2021.

  1. RestoreTheJoy

    RestoreTheJoy Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I must be older than you and/or my siblings were a decade older.

    EVERYONE got the measles (mumps, whatever was going around) or their sibs did, if they didn't particularly have a bad case or even notice. Everyone is immune from these childhood diseases from those days. Even the government admits that, in saying you are presumed immune if born before a certain year (though that really does extend later as younger siblings, if present, were also exposed).

    The assertion that later measles (or other )outbreaks happened only in the unvaccinated or is because of "those people" (the current rhetoric as well) is entirely false.

    Ohio State (234): And here's what's surprising: Many of those who got sick had previously been immunized against mumps via one of the top weapons against childhood diseases: the MMR vaccine.

    Measles in a fully vaccinated secondary school: Fourteen of 74 seronegative students, all of whom had been vaccinated, contracted measles. In addition, three seronegative students seroconverted without experiencing any symptoms. We conclude that outbreaks of measles can occur in secondary schools, even when more than 99 percent of the students have been vaccinated and more than 95 percent are immune.
    Measles outbreak in a fully immunized secondary-school population - PubMed

    Mumps (less contagious than measles) in a wedding - most cases vaccinated: On June 5, 2020, the U.S Centers for Disease Control (CDC) published the details of a recent multistate outbreak of mumps in its Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR). The outbreak involved 62 cases linked to a single asymptomatic wedding attendee. Even though mumps is a vaccine-preventable disease, 41 of the individuals infected in the reported incident had been fully vaccinated according to the current guidelines.

    A Mumps Outbreak among Fully Vaccinated People

    Whooping cough too - all victims vaccinated:
    Nearly 50 students at Harvard-Westlake School have been recently diagnosed with whooping cough, in an outbreak that has forced school officials to send students home at the first sign of illness.

    But all of the sick students had been vaccinated against the disease, according to school officials. In fact, all 90 people who have recently come down with pertussis — the official name for whooping cough — in Los Angeles County this year had been immunized against it, according to county officials.

    Harvard-Westlake students were vaccinated. Dozens caught whooping cough anyway
     
  2. Hans Blaster

    Hans Blaster On campaign in Georgia

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    You'll notice in earlier posts that others noted that a better vaccine became available in 1968. (The period of my childhood experience was given in my post and in the part you quoted.)
     
  3. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    And many people die in car accidents despite wearing seatbelts.
    Compare that to those that die in car accidents that were not wearing seatbelts.
    I find the pointing out of the cases in which vaccinated people were infected by the disease to be little more than a distraction.
     
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