Yahweh's Moedim (Feasts) FOREVER!

[CherubRam]

What do you mean "temporary?"
the text says "year to year." That is not temporary.
That means from that time onward. The survivors and all their generations.

The SURVIVORS do not live forever. (all their generations) are your words; that is not written in the scriptures.

 

[CherubRam]

The SURVIVORS keep that festival because the prophecy pertains to them.

 

[gadar perets]

Hebrews 10:1
The law is only a shadow of better things to come, and not the realities themselves.

I agree. When the reality comes, then the shadow goes away. Several feasts are unfulfilled shadows.

 

[gadar perets]

Just the survivors temporary. Other translations: Zechariah 14:16 - Bible Gateway

Zechariah 14:16
Then it will come about that any who are left of all the nations that went against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths.
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Just as the survivors will worship YHWH of hosts from year to year, they will keep Sukkot from year to year as well. Celebrating Sukkot is one way mankind worships YHWH. To fail to worship YHWH by celebrating Sukkot every year will bring YHWH's judgment upon those nations. There is nothing in the text to suggest it is temporary.

 

[CherubRam]

Zechariah 14:16
Then it will come about that any who are left of all the nations that went against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths.
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Just as the survivors will worship YHWH of hosts from year to year, they will keep Sukkot from year to year as well. Celebrating Sukkot is one way mankind worships YHWH. To fail to worship YHWH by celebrating Sukkot every year will bring YHWH's judgment upon those nations. There is nothing in the text to suggest it is temporary.

The text pertains to the survivors only.

 

[gadar perets]

The text pertains to the survivors only.

So, explain to us where you find this to be "temporary" and what is its end point?

Also, if Sukkot is done away with for all believers and all unbelieving Jews, then why are these survivors "celebrating" it (not just being forced to keep it) with circle dancing which is what the word "chagag" means. Are you telling me YHWH wants the unbelieving survivors to rejoice and celebrate Sukkot and come to love it, only to have it taken from them?

This takes place during the Millennium when YHWH is teaching the unbelieving nations to walk in His ways and enjoy all His goodness.

 

[visionary]

I agree. When the reality comes, then the shadow goes away. Several feasts are unfulfilled shadows.

Fall feasts are the only remaining shadows unfulfilled.

 

[gadar perets]

Fall feasts are the only remaining shadows unfulfilled.

I disagree. Unleavened Bread is in the process of being fulfilled as we are daily becoming unleavened. Shavuot is partially fulfilled in that one wave loaf has been offered. The other has yet to be offered and the latter rain has yet to be poured out.

 

[CherubRam]

So, explain to us where you find this to be "temporary" and what is its end point?

Also, if Sukkot is done away with for all believers and all unbelieving Jews, then why are these survivors "celebrating" it (not just being forced to keep it) with circle dancing which is what the word "chagag" means. Are you telling me YHWH wants the unbelieving survivors to rejoice and celebrate Sukkot and come to love it, only to have it taken from them?

This takes place during the Millennium when YHWH is teaching the unbelieving nations to walk in His ways and enjoy all His goodness.

Everyone will know the word of God during the millennium.

 

[gadar perets]

Everyone will know the word of God during the millennium.

It is obvious by your one line answers that you have no answers to my questions, nor can you refute my view. However, you are correct that everyone will know the word of God. That word includes Sukkot which is why the survivors are taught to celebrate it during the Millennium.

 

[CherubRam]

It is obvious by your one line answers that you have no answers to my questions, nor can you refute my view. However, you are correct that everyone will know the word of God. That word includes Sukkot which is why the survivors are taught to celebrate it during the Millennium.

Truth is, I am tired of arguing with you. Have a nice day.

 

[visionary]

I disagree. Unleavened Bread is in the process of being fulfilled as we are daily becoming unleavened. Shavuot is partially fulfilled in that one wave loaf has been offered. The other has yet to be offered and the latter rain has yet to be poured out.

Those who were resurrected about the same time that the Messiah was, do you think that they might have also be brought forth before the Heavenly Father as first fruits.

 

[gadar perets]

Those who were resurrected about the same time that the Messiah was, do you think that they might have also be brought forth before the Heavenly Father as first fruits.

Yes. They are the first fruits of the barley harvest. The wheat harvest of all believers in Yeshua has not happened yet.

 

[CherubRam]

Yes. They are the first fruits of the barley harvest. The wheat harvest of all believers in Yeshua has not happened yet.

Those who were resurrected about the same time that the Messiah was, do you think that they might have also be brought forth before the Heavenly Father as first fruits.

Resurrection

Matthew 27
New International Version
52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people.

John 5
King James Version (KJV)
25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

2 Thessalonians 2
New International Version (NIV)
2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.



Resurrection comment


2 Timothy 2:18
who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some.

2 Thessalonians 2:2
not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.

That is the Matt 27 verses here below.

Mat 27:52-54 says the resurrection has already taken place.


See how the word of God shows you what belongs in the bible. The resurrection has not taken place yet.


Revelation 20:5

(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.

In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

 

[gadar perets]

Resurrection

Matthew 27
New International Version
52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people.

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Mat 27:52-54 says the resurrection has already taken place.


See how the word of God shows you what belongs in the bible. The resurrection has not taken place yet.

Are you saying Matthew 27:52-54 do not belong in our Bibles?

 

[CherubRam]

Are you saying Matthew 27:52-54 do not belong in our Bibles?

That is what the scriptures says.

 

[gadar perets]

That is what the scriptures says.

Yes, Matthew 27:52-54 is what the Scriptures say. Unless you have textual proof that it was added, you are in error.

 

[CherubRam]

Yes, Matthew 27:52-54 is what the Scriptures say. Unless you have textual proof that it was added, you are in error.

You should learn to read English.

2 Timothy 2:18
who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some.

2 Thessalonians 2:2
not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.

 

[gadar perets]

You should learn to read English.

2 Timothy 2:18
who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some.

2 Thessalonians 2:2
not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.

And you should learn 1) How not to be rude and 2) How to properly interpret Scripture.

Based on your interpretation, we will need to throw out the passages telling us about the resurrection of Lazarus by Yeshua or the resurrection of Eutychus by Paul. The resurrection spoken of in 2 Timothy 2:18 is the resurrection of those in Messiah Yeshua. The ones resurrected in Matthew 27 are of people that lived prior to Yeshua.

 

[CherubRam]

And you should learn 1) How not to be rude and 2) How to properly interpret Scripture.

Based on your interpretation, we will need to throw out the passages telling us about the resurrection of Lazarus by Yeshua or the resurrection of Eutychus by Paul. The resurrection spoken of in 2 Timothy 2:18 is the resurrection of those in Messiah Yeshua. The ones resurrected in Matthew 27 are of people that lived prior to Yeshua.

There is a difference between bringing a person back to life and the (Time of the resurrection.)