Yahweh's Moedim (Feasts) FOREVER!

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Three Shepherds And The Revoked Covenant

Zechariah 11:7-11. Three Shepherds And The Revoked Covenant.

Zechariah 11
7 So I pastured the flock marked for slaughter, particularly the oppressed of the flock. Then I took two staffs and called one Favor and the other Union, and I pastured the flock.
8 In one month I got rid of the three shepherds.
The flock detested me, and I grew weary of them 9 and said, "I will not be your shepherd. Let the dying die, and the perishing perish. Let those who are left eat one another's flesh."
10 Then I took my staff called Favor and broke it, revoking the covenant I had made with all the nations.
11 It was revoked on that day, and so the afflicted of the flock who were watching me knew it was the word [Yahshua] of [the Lord / Yahwah.]

The Sanhedrin (Hebrew and Aramaic: סנהדרין; Greek: Συνέδριον, synedrion, "sitting together," hence "assembly" or "council") was an assembly of twenty-three or seventy-one rabbis appointed to sit as a tribunal in every city in the ancient Land of Israel.

The Sadducees were members of a Jewish sect founded in the second century BC, possibly as a political party. They ceased to exist sometime after the first century AD.

The Pharisee were founded in 167 BC, they were a ("separatist") party that emerged largely out of a group of scribes and sages. Their name comes from the Hebrew and Aramaic parush or parushi, which means "one who is separated.

Thus the Three Shepherds: Sanhedrin, Sadducees, and Pharisees.

Hebrews 8:13
By calling this covenantnew,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

Yes, the first covenant is obsolete, but its laws are not. They are written on the heart under the NC. The Sabbath, other nine commandments, two greatest commandments, festivals, dietary laws, etc., all continue.


 
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You evidently did not understand. For example, you used Hosea 2:11 to show the festivals have ceased forever.

I will stop all her celebrations: her yearly festivals, her New Moons, her Sabbath days—all her appointed festivals.
If YHWH made the festivals to cease, then He also made New Moons and Sabbaths to cease. Since you agree the Sabbaths continue, then so do festivals and New Moons. You will need to reinterpret this verse to mean YHWH took away these things from Israel because of their sins, but not from believers today.
The Seventh Day Sabbath is a ten commandment law, the other Sabbaths are Festival commandments.


Amos 5:21 “I hate, I despise your religious festivals;
your assemblies are a stench to me.
22 Even though you bring me burnt offerings and grain offerings,
I will not accept them.

Though you bring choice fellowship offerings,
I will have no regard for them.
23 Away with the noise of your songs!
I will not listen to the music of your harps.
24 But let justice roll on like a river,
righteousness like a never-failing stream!

25 “Did you bring me sacrifices and offerings
forty years in the wilderness, people of Israel?
26 You have lifted up the shrine of your king,
the pedestal of your idols,
the star of your god, six point"—
which you made for yourselves.
27 Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,”
says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty.
 
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Yes, the first covenant is obsolete, but its laws are not. They are written on the heart under the NC. The Sabbath, other nine commandments, two greatest commandments, festivals, dietary laws, etc., all continue.

Moral laws are different than Festival laws.
 
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Acts 21:21
They have been informed that you teach all the Jews who live among the Gentiles to turn away from Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children or live according to our customs.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

The Festivals were the customs of the people.
 
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The Seventh Day Sabbath is a ten commandment law, the other Sabbaths are Festival commandments.
That does not change the fact that if your interpretation is correct, the verses you use do away with the weekly Sabbath as well. Your interpretation is wrong. If you insist that the Festivals are done away with, then you will need to prove it without using verses that include the Sabbath.
 
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Galatians 5:2
Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.
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Galatians 5:3
Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. (that would include the Festivals.)
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

The days of the first disciples was a time of transition to the New Covenant.
The context of Galatians 5:1-15 refers to seeking to be justified (made righteous) by the law rather than by faith in Messiah.

Galatians 5:4 Messiah is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.​

Those of us that keep the Feasts do not do so in order to be justified. We are already justified by our faith. We keep the Feasts because we love YHWH and want to obey His commandments, statutes and judgments and because we know some of them are yet to be fulfilled.
 
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Isaiah 66:2 Has not my hand made all these things,
and so they came into being?”
declares the Lord.“These are the ones I look on with favor:
those who are humble and contrite in spirit,
and who tremble at my word.
3 But whoever sacrifices a bull
is like one who kills a person,
and whoever offers a lamb
is like one who breaks a dog’s neck;
whoever makes a grain offering
is like one who presents pig’s blood,
and whoever burns memorial incense
is like one who worships an idol.
They have chosen their own ways,
and they delight in their abominations;
4 so I also will choose harsh treatment for them
and will bring on them what they dread.
For when I called, no one answered,
when I spoke, no one listened.
They did evil in my sight
and chose what displeases me.”
 
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Hebrews 10:1
[ Christ’s Sacrifice Once for All ] The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship.
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Isaiah 66:2 Has not my hand made all these things,
and so they came into being?”
declares the Lord.“These are the ones I look on with favor:
those who are humble and contrite in spirit,
and who tremble at my word.
3 But whoever sacrifices a bull
is like one who kills a person,
and whoever offers a lamb
is like one who breaks a dog’s neck;
whoever makes a grain offering
is like one who presents pig’s blood,
and whoever burns memorial incense
is like one who worships an idol.
They have chosen their own ways,
and they delight in their abominations;
4 so I also will choose harsh treatment for them
and will bring on them what they dread.
For when I called, no one answered,
when I spoke, no one listened.
They did evil in my sight
and chose what displeases me.”
This passage says nothing about the Feasts being abolished.
 
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Hebrews 10:1
[ Christ’s Sacrifice Once for All ] The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
This verse refers to the shadow of animal sacrifices, not the shadows of the Feasts which are unfulfilled.
 
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This verse refers to the shadow of animal sacrifices, not the shadows of the Feasts which are unfulfilled.
You are seeing what you want to see. The Jews were constantly being punished by God, because they would not pay attention to what He said.
 
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I find no scripture showing Yahwah re-establishing the Festivals.
Zechariah 14:16
Then it will come about that any who are left of all the nations that went against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths.
 
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Just the survivors temporary. Other translations: Zechariah 14:16 - Bible Gateway
All the other translations say basicly the same thing:

After the big final battle against Jerusalem, everyone left goes up to celebrate Tabernacles. (one of the feasts you say were done away with) And that is in New Covenant time.
 
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All the other translations say basicly the same thing:

After the big final battle against Jerusalem, everyone left goes up to celebrate Tabernacles. (one of the feasts you say were done away with) And that is in New Covenant time.
Just the survivors: temporary.
 
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Just the survivors: temporary.
What do you mean "temporary?"
the text says "year to year." That is not temporary.
That means from that time onward. The survivors and all their generations.
 
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