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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by shilohsfoal, Mar 7, 2019.

  1. shilohsfoal

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    Matthew 24:21 NIV: For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now--and never to be equaled again.

    You just stated this verse has nothing to do with the abomination that causes desolation.Have you never read what Jesus says about the abomination which causes desolation?Keep it in context and learn from Jesus.

    Matthew 24:15 So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination of desolation,' described by the prophet Daniel (let the reader understand),
    Matthew 24:16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
    Matthew 24:17 Let no one on the housetop come down to retrieve anything from his house.
    Matthew 24:18 And let no one in the field return for his cloak.
    Matthew 24:19 How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers!
    Matthew 24:20 Pray that your flight will not occur in the winter or on the Sabbath.
    Matthew 24:21 For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again.

    THE ABOMINATION WHICH CAUSES DESOLATION IS THE CAUSE OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION.
     
  2. shilohsfoal

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    If you were well grounded you would know Donald Trump will have a military occupying jerusalem,in the next few years.
     
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    That means nothing. You're paying attention to the wrong things.
     
  4. shilohsfoal

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    Your not even,paying attention at all.You probably dont know who Trump is.
     
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    I'll take that as a joke.
     
  6. shilohsfoal

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  8. StephenDiscipleofYHWH

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    In Zech 14:1-5 Christ has not yet returned physically, his return in verses 3-4 is spiritual. All these events are taking place before his second coming.
    (1) Jerusalem will be taken (Zech 14:1-2, Isaiah 13:16)
    (2) The residue of the poeple will not be cut off (Zech 14:2)
    (3) Christ spiritually stands on the Mt.of Olives and drives out the nations who took Jerusalem (Zech 14:3-4, Ezekiel 11:23)
    (4) People of God will flee to the valley of the Mt. (Zech 14:5)
    (5) Small stone of (Daniel 2:44-45)
    (6) That was cut out without human hands (Ezekiel 9:5-11, Daniel 2:45)
    (7) These are those that escape of them (Isaiah 66:18-19)
    (8) Who Gather in the chosen of God into the Kingdom of God (Isaiah 66:18-20, Ezekiel 11:16-20)
    (9) These are "Lively stones" (1 Peter 2:5, Ephesians 2:19-22)
    (10) This is during the great tribulation (Revelation Chapters 15, 16, and 17:1-13, 13:5-18)
    (11) The small Stone/Kingdom of (Daniel 2:44)
    (12) Becomes a great mountain (Daniel 2:35)
    (13) That causes the world government to fall (Daniel 2:35)
    (14) These things come to pass before Yahshua comes/destroys the Heavens, earth, and wicked with fire(Matthew 24:29-31; Micha 1:3-4; Isaiah 66:15-17,26:21,2:9; Zephaniah 1:18,2:22,3:8,1:2-3; Haggi 2:6-7; Malichi 4:1; Joel 2:10,31; Hosea 10:8; 1 Thess 1:7-9,2; 2 Peter 3:10; Revelation 6:12-17; Revelation 20:9).


    Here is a more extensive study on the subject outlining what exactly is taking place in Zech 14.

    Kingdom of God on Earth

    1 Track- Pre Eleventh Hour Extra

    Reading the Rest of the Sheperd's Rod will help in understanding what is truly being spoken of in Zech 14.
     
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  9. shilohsfoal

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    So you also believe the people ofGod will flee from thier enemies after the Lord comes.

    Deuteronomy 28:7 The LORD will cause the enemies who rise up against you to be defeated before you. They will march out against you in one direction but flee from you in seven.

    Are you sure they are the people of God that are fleeing from thier enemies?
    Youbelieve after Christ comes and stands on mt olives ,and after his chosrn have put on immortality that they will flee from,thier enemies making God a lier?You really believe that?
     
  10. StephenDiscipleofYHWH

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    The Lord has said it is the people of God that will flee to the valley of the Mountain before his return in the flesh to destroy all unrighteous nations and the heavens and the earth by fire.
     
  11. shilohsfoal

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    Where does he claim,ownership of these cowards?
    Deuteronomy 28:25 The LORD will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You will march out against them in one direction but flee from them in seven. You will be an object of horror to all the kingdoms of the earth.
     
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  12. StephenDiscipleofYHWH

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    The bible. Also it says they are not cowards but will be as lions amongst sheep(Micah 5:8) and that the 144,000 sent out to gather the second remnant in will be a great and powerful people(Joel 2)
     
  13. shilohsfoal

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    No,those who flee are these.

    Deuteronomy 28:25 The LORD will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You will march out against them in one direction but flee from them in seven. You will be an object of horror to all the kingdoms of the earth.

    They have forsaken God.
     
  14. StephenDiscipleofYHWH

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    Again brother that is not what is spoken of in prophecy. What you are quoting from is the Lord's promises from the Old Law. Even still, if you remember he does drive out the Nations who took jerusalem, and he also destroys all the wicked when he returns in the flesh. But again, he has also said that the people of God will flee to the valley of the Mountain.
     
  15. shilohsfoal

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    Ive asked for proof that tbosr who flee belong to God and insted of showing proof you argue with the word of God.Here is the proof they do not belong to God.

    Deuteronomy 28:25 The LORD will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You will march out against them in one direction but flee from them in seven. You will be an object of horror to all the kingdoms of the earth.
     
  16. StephenDiscipleofYHWH

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    Well brother the proof was in the links but maybe you missed them? If so I guess I will quote the whole study for you here. And remember you asked for proof, and in order to know if a doctrine is true or false you must study all of it completely comparing all scripture will all scripture.


    (1) Jerusalem will be taken (Zech 14:1-2, Isaiah 13:16)
    Jerusalem will be taken by all nations

    (2) The residue of the people will not be cut off (Zech 14:2)
    Only a residue of the people(a very small amount) will not be taken or killed(since they were the righteous of the city).

    (3) Christ spiritually stands on the Mt.of Olives and drives out the nations who took Jerusalem (Zech 14:3, Ezekiel 11:23)
    The mount of Olives(2 Samuel 15:30; Luke 22:39; Matt 24:3; Mark 13:3; Luke 21:37), sometimes referred to as the mount of Olivet(*2 Samuel 15:30* Luke 21:37; Acts 1:12) or the mountain just east of Jerusalem(Ezekiel 11:23; 1 Kings 11:7), is a mountain in Israel where Christ ascended(Acts 1:*10-12; Luke 24:50-52). This is where he will return spiritually(Zech 14:3, Ezekiel 11:23) in the same form he appeared to Paul on the Road to Damascus(Acts 9:3-6, Acts 22:6-10, Acts 26:14-18) which is his original form(Christ's original form was a spirit, that is why he had to become flesh-John 1:1-14, 1 Timothy 3:16) Flesh and blood cannot enter into heaven(1 Cor 15:50).

    (4) People of God will flee to the valley of the Mt. (Zech 14:5)
    After this the Lord divides the mountain into a great valley(Zech 14:4-5) to which the people of the Lord will flee it will be the Lord's kingdom on earth until his coming in the Flesh. There will be peace in the valley(Isaiah 11:6-10; 25:6-10; 65:20-25; Ezekiel 28:25-26) and the Child shall live to be an hundred years(Isaiah 65:20).

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    (5) Small stone of (Daniel 2:44-45)
    (6) That was cut out without human hands (Ezekiel 9:5-11, Daniel 2:45) Isaiah 60:22 small one a strong nation
    The small stone of Daniel is the First remnant, of the Great mountain(God's Church), who were sealed by God(because they bore good fruit). Those who were not sealed were the brambles and tares(those who committed abominations in the sight of God) being purged from the Great mountain/Lord's Sanctuary in the Slaughter of Ezekiel 9.

    (7) These are those that escape of them (Isaiah 66:18-19)
    Those that escape of the Slaughter(144,000 who hold the pure virgin doctrine) who the Lord has set his mark upon will be sent out to all nations to all those who have not heard God's fame or seen his Glory.(Ezekiel 9:4, Revelation 9:4, Revelation 7:3)

    (8) Who Gather in the chosen of God into the Kingdom of God (Isaiah 66:18-20, Ezekiel 11:16-20)
    These are the people who Gather in all the brethren(2nd living harvest/brethren afar off)
    (9) These are "Lively stones" (1 Peter 2:5, Ephesians 2:19-22)

    1. Revelation 7:3-4 Hurt not the earth neither the sea, neither the trees till the servants of God are sealed-
    2. Revelation 14:1,4 these are they who are not defiled and are virgins with pure doctrine-
    3. Ezekiel 9-3-4,11 Angel sent with an inkhorn to set the Lord's mark upon those who sigh and weep for the abominations done in the midst of his sanctuary/church-
    4. Isaiah 66:19 sign set amongst his people-
    5. Ezekiel 9:2,5-10 after the virgins with pure doctrine that sigh and weep are sealed six angels are sent to slay utterly the young and the old, the maids, little children, and women sparing only those who bear his mark, telling him to begin this slaughter at his sanctuary-Amos 9:9-10
    6. Ezekiel 11:16 Wherever the people of God are(even in far off lands) the Lord will be a little sanctuary among them-
    7. Acts 7:47-50; Acts 17:23-25; 1 Cor 3:8-11, 16-17; 1 Cor 6:13,15, 17-20; 1 John 3:24, 1 John 4:14-15; 2 Cor 6:16 we are each of us the temple of the Lord-
    8. 1 Peter 2:5, Ephesians 2:19-22 being lively stones fitted together upon the foundation of the apostles and christ making up the Lord's Church/sanctuary/spiritual mountain-
    9. Isaiah 4:2 those who escape of them will be called beautiful and glorious being the excellent and comely fruit of the earth-
    10. Isaiah 1:27 Zion will be redeemed by this judgment and her converts with righteousness-
    11. Isaiah 40:10, Isaiah 62:11, Isaiah 66:18 these peoples works shall be before them and their thoughts shall be known by God being judged worthy-Revelation 12:17, 11:13
    12. Isaiah 10:18-22 those who escape of them will be gathered unto the Lord(Being the first remnant) no longer dwelling amongst heathen-
    13. Isaiah 66:19 these are those who escape of them, those who were given his mark before the slaughter-
    14. Isaiah 2:2, Joel 2:32 the physical mountain of the Lord's house/kingdom will be established(meaning this is the time after Christ divided the Mt of Olives and people are now able to enter into it-
    15. Isaiah 11:9-12 at this time the Lord will set his hand the second time to recover the remnant of his people to his Holy mountain-
    16. Revelation 7:9 these are a great multitude from every nation people and tongue(second remnant)-
    17. Isaiah 66:19-20 those who bear the mark of God(First remnant) are then sent out across the earth to gather in the brethren afar off-
    18. Joel 2:2-11, Isaiah 13:3-8, Micah 5:5-9, Isaiah 41:14-16, Micah 4:11-13, Isaiah 66:18-20 these are the first remnant sent out among the nations to gather in their brethren these are the threshing instrument used by God to carry his people back to the mountain-
    19. Revelation 18:4 these brethren afar off are those who are called out from among the heathen-
    20. Isaiah 2:2-4 these gathered in are called from among all the nations of the earth to the Lord's holy mountain-
    21. Joel 2:32 these are those who shall call upon the name of the Lord these are the remnant who the Lord shall call into his mountain-
    22. Micah 4:1-4, Isaiah 2:3-4 those who are among the many nations of the earth shall say to one another let us go up to that Holy mountain-
    23. Micah 5:8 the remnant which dwells amongst the gentiles in the midst of many peoples will be as a lion among sheep-
    24. Isaiah 60:1,3-5,11, Isaiah 56:8, Zechariah 2:10-13, Zech 8:3,7-23,Zech 14:16 many nations shall be joined unto the Lord in that day and he will dwell with them in his holy mountain-
    25. Isaiah 11:16, Isaiah 19:17,23-25, it is in this day a highway will be set up for the remnant of his people to walk upon-
    26. Isaiah 27:12-13 the remnant shall be gathered one by one upon this highway to the Lord's holy mountain-
    27. Isaiah 35:1-10 this highway will be a land of pools and springs of water a land of grass and reeds and rushes that no unclean or unrighteous man may walk upon(Isaiah 34:10; 35:8)-
    28. Isaiah 43:1-2,16,19-21,4-10 upon this highway which passeth over waters and rivers the remnant will not be over taken with water neither when they walk through fire will it burn nor will fire kindle upon them-
    29. Isaiah 52:1, Nahum 1:15, Zech 14:21, Joel 3:17 No unrighteous person will be able to enter into the Lord's kingdom/mountain
    30. Isaiah 56:1-7 only those who keep the Lord's Sabbath holy will be brought into the his Holy Mountain.


    Part 3
    (10) This is during the great tribulation (Revelation Chapters 15, 16, and 17:1-13, 13:5-18)
    (11) The small Stone/Kingdom of (Daniel 2:44)
    (12) Becomes a great mountain (Daniel 2:35;Isaiah 60:22)
    Everyone of the Lively stones(people of God) are fitted together upon the small stone(144,000 Sealed by God) becoming the Great mountain/Spiritual kingdom of God.
    (13) That causes the world government to fall (Daniel 2:35; Jeremiah 51:19-20; Isaiah 60:12,16,22)
    (14) These things come to pass before Yahshua comes/destroys the Heavens, earth, and wicked with fire(Matthew 24:29-31; Micah 1:3-4; Isaiah 66:15-17; 26:2; 2:19; Zephaniah 1:2-3,18; 2:2; 3:8; Haggai 2:6-7; Malachi 4:1; Joel 2:10-11,31; Hosea 10:8; 2 Thess 1:7-9; 1 Thess 4:16; 2 Peter 3:10; Revelation 6:12-17; Revelation 20:9).




    Part 4
    Revelation 22:14 only those who keep the Lord's commandments can enter into the great city's gates in New Jerusalem after the New heavens and New earth are created(Revelation 21; Isaiah 66:22-24) Isaiah 66:23 Keep the Lord's Sabbath



    I look forward to hearing what you think after you read the whole study and look up each of the passages quoted from studying what has been provided, what you asked for.
     
  17. shilohsfoal

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    I asked for proof that says Gods chosen people will flee and you still have not given one single verse that says so.Here is proof thst Gods chosen people DO NOT FLEE FROM THIER ENEMIES..

    GOD KEEPS HIS PROMISES.
    Deuteronomy 28:7 The LORD will cause the enemies who rise up against you to be defeated before you. They will march out against you in one direction but flee from you in seven.

    Here is proof,those who have disobeyed God will flee.

    Deuteronomy 28:25 The LORD will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You will march out against them in one direction but flee from them in seven. You will be an object of horror to all the kingdoms of the earth.

    You seem,to be trying your best to make God a lier.
     
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  18. JacksBratt

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    These people, who are fleeing... are those that have found Christ after the rapture. The church, or all believers, were removed at the rapture.... They will not be placed under this wrath. Just as Noah was removed and Lot and his family were removed.
     
  19. StephenDiscipleofYHWH

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    I have given you proof and you have refused to even read it.

    Now I am leaving this discussion brother, as there isn't any point in carrying on a conversation that will never bear any fruit.

    May the Lord bless and guide you, that you may understand the truth and light of his word.
     
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