Wounded Las Vegas Witness Claims "100% Multiple Shooters," Says Other Witnesses He Knows Say Same

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Wounded Las Vegas Witness Claims "100% Multiple Shooters," Says All Other Witnesses He Knows Say Same

After being interviewed by CNN soon after the shooting in Las Vegas, Rocky Palermo, who now has many pieces of shrapnel in his pelvis from being hit by gunfire, has told an independent media outlet that "I really do believe that it was 100% more than one shooters," and that "every other person that I've talked to, who unfortunately got hit as well, all said the same thing."

Palermo said he has been interviewed by the FBI and that he gave them this account, but there has been no follow up.

Palermo, who is an avid concert goer and fan of the band which was playing, said that exits on Las Vegas Boulevard which were open every other night when the band performed, were inexplicably blocked by chain link fence on the night of the shooting. Palermo said that police were directing people to only a small number of exits, back in the direction of the gunfire.

Palermo gave the interview to The Blast on Thursday, October 5th.

Palermo joins other concert participants who say they are convinced that there was more than one shooter, including an unidentified woman interviewed by a local news station right after the shooting (below.)

Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo left open the question of multiple shooters in a press conference last week, when he said:


"Do you think this was all just self-facing individuals, without talking to somebody, it was sequestered amongst themselves, I mean come on folks..."

Soon after the shooting a flood of video taken from smartphones began to be posted on the Internet, raising questions in many peoples' minds. One of the most widely seen was taken by a taxi driver, who is very proximate to a source of what appears to be gunfire and muzzle flashes from the fourth floor of the Madalay Bay casino. The person identified by the news media as the lone shooter, Stephen Paddock, was on the 32nd floor of the casino.


In the video long, sustained burst of automatic fire can be heard from a location much farther away as well. Although some of the sound is an echo, analysis of the video shows that some of the far-off gunfire cannot be an echo, because it stands alone, not in answer to any fire coming from the casino ("taxi driver" video below followed by analysis.)

Police scanner audio which was recorded during the shooting clearly shows police speaking of "confirmed" at least two shooters, as well as an "elderly man in fatigues.

 

[gym_class_hero]

If there were veterans whove been in combat saying the same thing, this would have more credibility. An untrained person in a bedlam situation like that would be understandably confused by richochets, echos and repeated gunfire. I am not saying there couldn't have been more than 1 shooter but after every tragedy like this there's no shortage of conspiracy theories circulating.

 

[Rescued One]

If there were veterans whove been in combat saying the same thing, this would have more credibility. An untrained person in a bedlam situation like that would understandably confused by richochets, echos and repeated gunfire. I am not saying their couldn't have been more than 1 shooter but after every tragedy like this there's no shortage of conspiracy theories circulating.

The experts will analyze the tapes. They have every reason to learn the truth.

 

[AirPo]

Wounded Las Vegas Witness Claims "100% Multiple Shooters," Says All Other Witnesses He Knows Say Same

After being interviewed by CNN soon after the shooting in Las Vegas, Rocky Palermo, who now has many pieces of shrapnel in his pelvis from being hit by gunfire, has told an independent media outlet that

Bogus in half a sentence. 1. Implying he told one source something he didn't tell the other, 2. Implying CNN is not "independent" but some other source is, therefore more believable. 3. Poor guy was wounded so he must be telling the truth, which means this post is true.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

Again with the "flashes from the forth floor". With magical bullets that didn't break any glass, I suppose?

 

[Tanj]

Again with the "flashes from the forth floor". With magical bullets that didn't break any glass, I suppose?

Reverse magic nano thermite sealed the holes.

 

[Goonie]

 

[mark kennedy]

I think other people knew what he was going to do, by now they have forgotten they ever knew him. Two shooters seem unlikely but I'm sure they are looking into that possibility

 

[Hidden In Him]

The audio at .55+ sounds like more than one shooter.

 

[Goonie]

And this thread will be moved to the conspiracy forum in....

 

[Hidden In Him]

And this thread will be moved to the conspiracy forum in....

So what's your argument? That the woman in the taxi or someone else doctored the audio in the clip?

 

[Armoured]

The audio at .55+ sounds like more than one shooter.

I watched your video. I spent 10 years operating and working around others using automatic weapons. That sounds like 1 shooter to me. The echo you hear is absolutely standard, especially in an area with angular and high density surfaces, like high-rises. There's also a phenomenon called "crack-bang", where you hear the sonic boom (crack) of a round passing close by, followed by the "bang" of the actual weapon fire. This dds to the confusion, especially to people unfamiliar with firearms, expecting them to sound like Hollywood sound effects. They don't.

Now, I'm not saying it's impossible there was second shooter, but it is clear to me that the guy commenting on that video doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I watched your video. I spent 10 years operating and working round others using automatic weapons. That sounds like 1 shooter to me. The echo you hear is absolutely standard, especially in an area with angular and high density surfaces, like high-rises. There's also a phenomenon called "crack-bang", where you hear the sonic boom (crack) of a round passing close by, followed by the "bang" of the actual weapon fire. This dds to the confusion, especially to people unfamiliar with firearms, expecting them to sound like Hollywood sound effects. They don't.

Now, I'm not saying it's impossible there was second shooter, but it is clear to me that the guy commenting on that video doesn't know what he's talking about.

Thanks. I appreciate the info.

I'm not making a determination one way or the other either. But there are disturbing elements to this story that don't ring true. The argument that an accountant with no history suddenly lost it seems utterly without basis. Trey Goudy isn't even buying it. The story circulating that it was an arms deal gone bad and that he was undercover FBI at least has a ring to it. That story appears to have been released by someone within the LVMPD, which would explain why the Sheriff in the OP video looks and sounds so unsettled.

"The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders. Stephen Paddock was an undercover FBI agent who participated in multiple illegal arms deals in the Las Vegas area in a gun running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious. Paddock thought he was engaging in another routine arms transfer, but ISIS operatives who were going to meet him learned about the entrapment scheme and Paddock’s true identity. They killed him and carried out the massacre, and then fled the scene.”

Who knows? But at least give me a story I can believe. Paddock had no history of psychological problems and no history of violence, but supposedly he takes out 60 civilians and injures 200 more, for what again exactly? This doesn't sound like the work of an accountant. It does sound like the work of ISIS.

 

[Goatee]

Conspiracy theories here we go again!

 

[Armoured]

Thanks. I appreciate the info.

I'm not making a determination one way or the other either. But there are disturbing elements to this story that don't ring true. The argument that an accountant with no history suddenly lost it seems utterly without basis. Trey Goudy isn't even buying it. The story circulating that it was an arms deal gone bad and that he was undercover FBI at least has a ring to it. That story appears to have been released by someone within the LVMPD, which would explain why the Sheriff in the OP video looks and sounds so unsettled.

"The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders. Stephen Paddock was an undercover FBI agent who participated in multiple illegal arms deals in the Las Vegas area in a gun running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious. Paddock thought he was engaging in another routine arms transfer, but ISIS operatives who were going to meet him learned about the entrapment scheme and Paddock’s true identity. They killed him and carried out the massacre, and then fled the scene.”

Who knows? But at least give me a story I can believe. Paddock had no history of psychological problems and no history of violence, but supposedly he takes out 60 civilians and injures 200 more, for what again exactly? This doesn't sound like the work of an accountant. It does sound like the work of ISIS.

I agree it sounds crazy, but crazier things have happened before. I'm really not making any comment on the validity or otherwise of the "official" story, really just commenting on what I, personally, have seen and heard in the footage I've seen, and that gunfire often doesn't sound the way people expect gunfire to sound, so I'd take the opinions of witnesses who were unfamiliar with gunfire, not to mention scared and in the middle of a panicking crowd, with a grain of salt.

Not for a moment am I suggesting they're not giving an accurate report of their experience, just that being shot at is an highly subjective experience.

 

[AirPo]

Thanks. I appreciate the info.

I'm not making a determination one way or the other either. But there are disturbing elements to this story that don't ring true.

That's typical of conspiracy theories like the OP.

The argument that an accountant with no history suddenly lost it seems utterly without basis.

But that's not the argument. The guy had been stockpiling and planning for months. That's not sudden.

Trey Goudy isn't even buying it. The story circulating that it was an arms deal gone bad and that he was undercover FBI at least has a ring to it. That story appears to have been released by someone within the LVMPD, which would explain why the Sheriff in the OP video looks and sounds so unsettled.

"The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders. Stephen Paddock was an undercover FBI agent who participated in multiple illegal arms deals in the Las Vegas area in a gun running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious. Paddock thought he was engaging in another routine arms transfer, but ISIS operatives who were going to meet him learned about the entrapment scheme and Paddock’s true identity. They killed him and carried out the massacre, and then fled the scene.”

Who knows? But at least give me a story I can believe. Paddock had no history of psychological problems and no history of violence, but supposedly he takes out 60 civilians and injures 200 more, for what again exactly? This doesn't sound like the work of an accountant. It does sound like the work of ISIS.

 

[bhsmte]

Like JFK, all over again. Eye witness accounts during high stress, are not very reliable.

 

[Goatee]

Someone will say they saw Iron Man there next!

 

[Hidden In Him]

But that's not the argument. The guy had been stockpiling and planning for months. That's not sudden.

I understand. But to me that's more consistent with a CIA cover for arms transfers than it is a case for someone being capable of opening up on an entire concert worth of people.

 

[FenderTL5]

If there were indeed multiple shooters; does that nullify the claim of crisis actors in a false flag event?
Or do we conflate conspiracies?