Very few women marry for love no matter how loud they spout that they do love him.
THIS. Amen and Amen!!How can we expect Jesus to forgive our past mistakes if we don't do the same with others? Aren't we called to follow into Jesus footsteps? To live as he lived, and love as he loved?
“I, even I, am he who blots outyour transgressions, for my own sake,and remembers your sins no more.Isaiah 43:25Jesus not only forgives us, but welcomes us into a relationship with him, into his ministry. He doesn't say things like "hey yes i forgive you but i wouldn't want to be around you" or "you're not the kind of person i want to have in my ministry" so... yeah. I myself, as a woman, wouldn't want other men to judge me for my past sins, ESPECIALLY if I have repented and I'm converted. If Jesus doesn't treat me like that, why would you, also a sinner, do the same? The devil looooves to convince people that some sins are bigger than others, but that's just a lie. To God, all sins are the same, that's why he has the grace to forgive any kind of sin. You are a pedophile? If you repent and seek him out, God will forgive you. You lied to your mother about something serious? God will forgive that too, and have a place for you in heaven.
Denying this is denying Jesus's nature and the fact that he "makes all things new"
“Therefore if ANY man be in Christ, he is a NEW CREATURE: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17)
She is no longer a stripper. She was born anew, she is a new creature.
Yes but your looking at American, or Western, culture in general...
As a Christian, when your looking for a wife, your looking at the Church - and the single woman there.
If your church looks like the world, your in the wrong church.
Seriously, if your church is pumping out women identical to the world change churches immediately. Keep looking til you find people that are the Church.
They will have ALL come OUT of the world (aka many will have "pasts") but they won't be the world now...
Take me for instance, I'm a former Muslim - (THAT takes a special man! Lol..) now a child of God.
All of us, in one way or another, came out of the world, the Babylonian system so to speak.
You are talking about a hypothetical person.If she was a sex woeker then it's a good bet that she was on drugs too. Would that enhance her trustworthyness or degrade it? You can love someone and not trust them. I havent seen any scriptures that says, forgive the girl and trust her always because of her words...???
You are talking about a hypothetical person.
God can give you discernment when there is a real woman involved (if those are her issues).
If she has a different set of issues, you will need God's grace/discernment to face those instead.
Here is a very telling lyric from I Enjoy Being A Girl (The Flower Drum Song, 1958),Can't women be expected to suck it up when they get said no too? What does think when she hears no? Oh no that is offensive to me because everybody should want me.....That's weird.
I have a theory: Every woman wants every man to want her, even if she does not want them. I've asked over a dozen women if this is so, and 99% of the time they say yes...
You have said more than once that you believe women lie.I'll buy that. So maybe it was by the grace of God that I knew to tell that girl no?
Can't women be expected to suck it up when they get said no too? What does think when she hears no? Oh no that is offensive to me because everybody should want me.....That's weird.
I have a theory: Every woman wants every man to want her, even if she does not want them. I've asked over a dozen women if this is so, and 99% of the time they say yes. The other one lied is my belief.
What mentality she had ?
Here is a very telling lyric from I Enjoy Being A Girl (The Flower Drum Song, 1958),
"When I hear a complementary whistle
That greets my bikini by the sea
I turn and I glower and I bristle
But I'm happy to know the whistle's meant for me...!"
You have said more than once that you believe women lie.
If you're starting with that proposition, then there is no woman for you.
Do I marry her because she said she has come out of the world? I cant do that, most women lie. Most. How is a man supposed to trust his (fiance) if her prior industry was built on her lies? How can I trust that girl?
I love her as a Sister in Christ. I don't judge her. I forgive her for her past and do not hold it against her.
But how shall I trust her?
If she was a sex woeker then it's a good bet that she was on drugs too. Would that enhance her trustworthyness or degrade it?
Questions such as whether she once did drugs or even had sex for money are questions that should be answered before marriage but are not necessarily implied in the question.
Yeah I know. She was young and needed the money. And let's face it, marriage is big thing. So the OP did sort of open a can of worms and so these are valid things to consider in discussion.
Unless one is froggy and feeling his oats it may not be a good choice to make in women. Even a stripper. She works the floor too. She's well aquainted with the bar scene and making money. But she can't bring that home with her. What kind of wife would that be?
I love your realistic response. Unfortunately I think many Christians these days give unrealistic overtly positive responses. Last question why might they be more deceptive ?The mentality of deception. They've been lying for so long that it is a part of them and she may be trying to be a Christian but will probably also have the little white lie syndrome. Oh that's just a little white lie so that dont matter...
How could a man build a marriage upon that mentality? Most women lie about things that they dont even have to lie about and for stupid reasons.
A man and wife being 100% truthful with each other is the only way that the marriage has any chance whatsoever.
For instance, she messed up and did something wrong. Maybe not a adulterous mistake but she doesnt want to upset me so she lies anyway. Then I waste time trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. She needs to be truthful even if it is a bad thing. For two reasons. 1. No time is wasted on rabbit trails built out of lies. 2. Even if it is bad, at least they will know that what comes out of her (or his) mouth is something they can count on.
Even if she isnt working the industry anymore she will (probably) still justify a lie/rabbit trail for the small thing she did. Maybe she she splurged too much on herself and spent too much money creating a shortage. How many girls would be like, well I'm sorry but I spent too much....That's not how most women are. They will lie lie lie anyway. So the honesty factor turns out to be a larger issue than her SW trade in her past. If I'm not able to trust her implicitly why would I consider marrying her?
You ever make picked eggs? They turn purple throughout from being soaked in beet juice. The color purple is the residue that it leaves on her soul & spirit from soaking in the SW trade. If she throws off that coat, is she still purple on the inside? You bet she is!
Women shouldnt take offense to being rejected sometimes. So what? There's 4 Billion more fish in the sea. Aint the mans fault if she has baggage from who she used to be. It was her prior poor choices that did this to her, not the man!
There's all sorts of warning signs of this sort of soul damage in a lady even if she is now Born Again and Baptised. When I got born again I wasnt instantly someone else.
12 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.../KJV
By their Fruits you will know them. How do they act? How do they talk? Do you ever catch her studying her Bible? Does she drink? How does she carry herself? These are good questions and for anyone with eyes to see can see who she is right now. Most times I can tell with a single glance their way if they are what I consider to be wife material. If the sweet young lady has had delieverance and was very dedicated to the Lord now....it will show on her. If she's the same old bad girl, that will show too. How many times have people said, I shoulda listened to my instincts!
Is she honest about little things? If a girl will be dishonest about little things then she will be dishonest about big things. I wish her well but I have to go now, lol!
(The dancer girl I dated who would float all over town, I left her sitting in a McDonalds and slipped out the side door!)
First, how does the Bible say we can know who is Christian?
When you know the above answer, you will know how to gauge whether or not any prospective wife is telling the truth when she says she follows Christ, not just former sex workers.
Potentially an honest woman who is comfortable in her own skin.
Sounds like wife material to me...
If she's changed her life around there's nothing there but who she is now.