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Would plagues like corona virus exist if mankind were honoring the Word (Law) of God?

Discussion in 'Sabbath and The Law' started by BobRyan, Mar 31, 2020.

  1. Yes many diseases could be avoided simply by honoring the Word of God

  2. No, pretty much all the same diseases would befall mankind no matter what

  3. I don't know - never thought about it.

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  1. BobRyan

    BobRyan Junior Member

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    Exodus 15:26 He said, "If you listen carefully to the LORD your God and do what is right in his eyes, if you pay attention to his commands and keep all his decrees, I will not bring on you any of the diseases I brought on the Egyptians, for I am the LORD, who heals you."

    Does God mean to tell us that such plagues as the corona virus would not be allowed to oppress mankind if we were honoring His Word instead of seeking various forms of rebellion?

    40 years after that Exodus 15 statement we have this statement by Moses --

    Deut 7: 12 “Then it shall come to pass, because you listen to these judgments, and keep and do them, that the Lord your God will keep with you the covenant and the mercy which He swore to your fathers. 13 And He will love you and bless you and multiply you; He will also bless the fruit of your womb and the fruit of your land, your grain and your new wine and your oil, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flock, in the land of which He swore to your fathers to give you. 14 You shall be blessed above all peoples; there shall not be a male or female barren among you or among your livestock. 15 And the Lord will take away from you all sickness, and will afflict you with none of the terrible diseases of Egypt which you have known

    Deut 29: 5 And I have led you forty years in the wilderness. Your clothes have not worn out on you, and your sandals have not worn out on your feet. .

    -- by contrast to the blessing. ===========================

    1 Cor 11 -
    27 Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. 28 But a man must examine himself, and in so doing he is to eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly. 30 For this reason many among you are weak and sick, and a number sleep. 31 But if we judged ourselves rightly, we would not be judged.


    Rev 16
    8 The fourth angel poured out his bowl upon the sun, and it was given to it to scorch men with fire. 9 Men were scorched with fierce heat; and they blasphemed the name of God who has the power over these plagues, and they did not repent so as to give Him glory.
     
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  2. Hammster

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    We aren’t Israel. So there’s that. And this started in China, not Egypt.
     
  3. LoveGodsWord

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    Yes JESUS is coming Bob food for thought. God promises that none of these diseases will come upon us if we believe and follow his Word.

    EXODUS 15:26 And said, IF YOU WILL DILIGENTLY LISTEN TO THE VOICE OF THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND WILL DO THAT WHICH IS RIGHT IN HIS SIGHT, AND WILL GIVE EAR TO HIS COMMANDMENTS, AND KEEP ALL HIS STATUTES, I WILL PUT NONE OF THESE DISEASES ON YOU, WHICH I HAVE BROUGHT ON THE EGYPTIANS: for I am the LORD that heals you.

    This of course includes Gods health and dietry laws. The COVID-19 disease is a good example of what happens when man breaking Gods' dietry laws.

    God bless
     
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  4. LoveGodsWord

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    Hello Hammster. According to the scriptures in the new covenant God's ISRAEL are all those who believe and follow Gods' Word. If we are not a part of Gods' ISRAEL we have no part in God's new covenant promise *HEBREWS 8:10-12. Gentiles are now grafted into God's ISRAEL through the root (Christ) *ROMANS 11:13-27; EPHESIANS 2:12-14
     
  5. Hammster

    Hammster Gomaristist Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    What was the promise?

    Iwill not bring on you any of the diseases I brought on the Egyptians

    This was to the nation of Israel. And it was specific. Where did COVID 19 originate?
     
  6. LoveGodsWord

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    All those who believe and follow God's Word today are God's ISRAEL as shown through the scriptures. The Egyptians simply represent all those who disobeyed Gods' commandments and received God's judgements and plagues. The world before the coming of Christ receive earthquakes, famine and pestilence (disease) *LUKE 21:11 as well as the seven lasts plagues from the book of REVELATION.
     
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  7. LoveGodsWord

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    People disobeying God's LAWS and eating bats.
     
  8. Hammster

    Hammster Gomaristist Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    Okay. Well, it’s obvious that you will fit this verse into your theology (as opposed to proper hermeneutics), so I’ll leave you to it.
     
  9. LoveGodsWord

    LoveGodsWord Well-Known Member

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    Not at all, I am reading the scriptures as it reads. It is Gods' promise to those who believe and follow his Words. As the scriptures teach to those who believe and follow Gods' Word; "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness *2 TIMOTHY 3:16. Do you not believe all scripture is for God's people? Or do you believe only some scriptures are for God's people? I believe God says all scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, reproof and instruction in righteousness.
     
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  10. Aussie Pete

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    Yes.
    So no SDA ever gets sick? All live for 1,000 years as Adam did? Congratulations. You don't need Jesus, you can do it all by following a set of rules. Me, I depend on Lord Jesus. I don't have a problem with the Law because Lord Jesus fulfilled it completely. I enjoy my glorious liberty as a redeemed saint.
     
  11. HARK!

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    I believe so. For example, the flues are coming out of China. Chinese love pork and duck. YHWH tells us not to eat either. The ducks are raised on small farms with pigs. The ducks carry a disease that can be spread to swine, but not to humans; but when the swine get the disease, it mutates. The Pig's DNA in some respects is closer to human DNA than any other animal. This makes the pig a dangerous vector for disease.

    If the Chinese were obedient to YHWH's word, the flu would all but vanish from people.
     
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  12. BobRyan

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    regarding "the nation of Israel" and the promises of God.

    so then in your view... you "are" or "Are not" under the "New Covenant"?

    Jer 31:
    31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”
     
  13. timothyu

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    Let my Take-Out go.
     
  14. HARK!

    HARK! Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I find that many Christians reject YHWH's covenant.

    Many reject Messiah too.

    (CLV) Mt 15:24
    Now He, answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
     
  15. SkyWriting

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    It's not up to us to predict.
     
  16. BobRyan

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    But do they claim they are doing it?

    And if so do they say they are doing it because "they are not a Jew"??
     
  17. BobRyan

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    Well there is that thing God said as quoted in the OP
     
  18. SoldierOfTheKing

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    The context refers to the Ten Plagues of Egypt, which were supernatural. Egypt was struck with them because Pharaoh refused to let Israel go.
     
  19. HARK!

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    I think that they're in ignorance and apathy.
     
  20. SkyWriting

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    That would be the old covenant. (Phewww. You had me pinned there for a minute.)
     
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