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Who are the best WOF apologetists? What books have they written? any debates on dvd or cd?
It's interesting. I almost thought that was a very recent work and an Ebook only to boot, but poking around it looks like it came out back in 2008 in paper/hard back form 1st.
Interesting reading the synopsis etc. There is no doubt that many critics do hatchet jobs on WOF to make it look as heretical as possible. But I believe WOF does deserve a certain amount of criticism. They have taken so many things like positive and negative confession to such extremes that it goes beyond stuff found in the Bible, actually to the level of superstition etc.
Who are the best WOF apologetists? What books have they written? any debates on dvd or cd?
Well I've been listening to Simon Tanner / Jew and Greek. In some ways, he is doing a ministry similar to what I might have done if I stuck with WOF and/or the Prophetic movement aka NAR.
I think he however has his work cut out for him! Church culture is probably the biggest problem.
1) Their are problems with a radical Bible Alone approach, dubbed "Solo Scriptura" in the article/link below. Jew and Greek does not fit this, but most WOF do (based at least what was true of places like Rhema Bible Training Center etc.).
A Critique of the Evangelical Doctrine of Solo Scriptura
2) Their is a hostility to theology etc. at least in the movements past. e.g. - Ken Hagin and other people making disparaging jokes about getting college degrees etc.
3) Likewise Bible training Centers like Rhema pride themselves on giving you primarily "useful hands on education" etc. as far as preaching, Bible study, spiritual gift courses. (Theology often does not qualify for this in the short run in many people's minds, it is only in the long term when people get into problems where people see its value).
4) A culture of sensationalism etc. Heresy hunters cherry pick quotes for their own agenda etc. but I've personally seen some sloppy sermons that had some heretical implications at face value and these came from a shoot from the hip approach to preaching. While you shouldn't rush to condemn people as heretics etc. teachers are to held accountable for their teaching.
It's interesting. I almost thought that was a very recent work and an Ebook only to boot, but poking around it looks like it came out back in 2008 in paper/hard back form 1st.
Interesting reading the synopsis etc. There is no doubt that many critics do hatchet jobs on WOF to make it look as heretical as possible. But I believe WOF does deserve a certain amount of criticism. They have taken so many things like positive and negative confession to such extremes that it goes beyond stuff found in the Bible, actually to the level of superstition etc.
Well I've been listening to Simon Tanner / Jew and Greek. In some ways, he is doing a ministry similar to what I might have done if I stuck with WOF and/or the Prophetic movement aka NAR.
I think he however has his work cut out for him! Church culture is probably the biggest problem.
1) Their are problems with a radical Bible Alone approach, dubbed "Solo Scriptura" in the article/link below. Jew and Greek does not fit this, but most WOF do (based at least what was true of places like Rhema Bible Training Center etc.).
A Critique of the Evangelical Doctrine of Solo Scriptura
2) Their is a hostility to theology etc. at least in the movements past. e.g. - Ken Hagin and other people making disparaging jokes about getting college degrees etc.
3) Likewise Bible training Centers like Rhema pride themselves on giving you primarily "useful hands on education" etc. as far as preaching, Bible study, spiritual gift courses. (Theology often does not qualify for this in the short run in many people's minds, it is only in the long term when people get into problems where people see its value).
4) A culture of sensationalism etc. Heresy hunters cherry pick quotes for their own agenda etc. but I've personally seen some sloppy sermons that had some heretical implications at face value and these came from a shoot from the hip approach to preaching. While you shouldn't rush to condemn people as heretics etc. teachers are to held accountable for their teaching.
Who are the best WOF apologetists? What books have they written? any debates on dvd or cd?
I would look at the works of Kenneth Hagin. WOF is not really a formal doctine. WOF term is from Roman 10:8 - but I don't hear people call themselves that.
My journey toward WOF is based upon trying to reconcile tough statements by Jesus (like John 14:13 and Mark 11:23-24) into something meaningful - which Kenneth Hagin did. Generally those tough verses are either ignored (even by many who proclaim Biblical inerrancy) or rationalized into something next to meaningless.
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Rod is used to criticism, if He decides it's worth while I'm sure He can answer any questions you may have.
Honestly this topic should be moved to Christian Apologetics or, Christian Theology.