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Women teaching men about God?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Matthew C., Aug 14, 2020.

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  1. Matthew C.

    Matthew C. Active Member

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    Question one


    Does God allow women to teach men about God or other things? Does God allow women to usurp authority that God gave man? Does God allow women to teach men about anything other than mothers?

    This is not a debate? It’s in the Bible.
     
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    Sabertooth Repartee Animal: Quipping the Saints! Supporter

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  4. Strong in Him

    Strong in Him I can do all things through Christ Supporter

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    Yep.
    Women proclaimed God's word and prophesied.
    Mary Magdalene told the disciples that Jesus was alive.
    Mary told the servants at the wedding to do whatever Jesus told them.
    The woman at the well told the men in her town she had found the Messiah.
    Priscilla taught Apollos.
    Deborah was judge over the whole nation and sorted out disputes.
    Esther persuaded the king to reverse his edict and save the Jews from destruction.
    A servant girl told her mistress that if Naaman went to see the prophet, he would be healed.
    Ruth proposed to Boaz.

    God gives women authority too - we are allowed to preach the Gospel, evangelise and teach from Scripture. He gives gifts to both women and men; and also the authority to pray in his name, resist the evil one and proclaim his word.

    See above.

    All these things are in the Bible too.
     
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  5. pdudgeon

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    This is an interesting question.
    I can see that at some point you could probably bring in some relevant objections to a woman teaching men, and be correct.

    But what you are forgetting is that if a woman is subject to the wishes of God, that is the most important thing.
    The second most important thing to remember is that a man always has recourse to God and His wisdom any time he wishes.

    So if a man had objections to being taught by a woman, then it stands to reason that he should be always found occupied in listening to God on a daily basis.
     
  6. Monksailor

    Monksailor Adopted child of God. Supporter

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    Do you want the politically correct answer or God's??? Today the politically correct position equates to "God's" perspective, even "word" in many churches.
     
  7. JackRT

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    When we look at the bible, both old and new testaments, we realize that it emerged from an extremely patriarchal society. This society devalued women to the extent that they were not even considered to be persons before the law. Not only were they devalued but they were in many ways considered to be of inferior intellect and of a carnal nature even moreso than the male. Patriarchy was part and parcel of their world view --- they simply were unable to think of the role of women in any other way. Today we know that women are the intellectual and spiritual equals of men and in every respect except physical size and strength. Jesus himself seems to gave been largely gender blind in that he numbered women among his disciples and apostles and even close friends. Paul, at first, appears conflicted until we realize that the pastoral epistles (1 and 2 Timothy plus Titus) were actually written pseudonymously some 60 years after Paul's death. This was more than enough time for patriarchy to once again take charge. In my personal opinion patriarchy just might be the ugliest evil that humanity has ever inflicted on itself. It still exerts its malevolent influence in some circles even today. As a Christian I am convinced that we should make every effort to ensure the full equality of women in every aspect of the life of our churches and in society at large.
     
  8. Sabertooth

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    I call shenanigans!

    You don't have to be PC to entertain an opposing view to the OP. That argument is very ad hominem or, at best, the "No True Scotsman" argument.
    "Because the Politically Correct believe that women can teach, anyone who agrees with them on that point must be motivated by Political Correctness, too...!"
     
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  9. com7fy8

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    First, yes God's word says >

    "And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence." (1 Timothy 2:12)

    Jesus also says for men to not be like they are teachers over others, as I understand is confirmed by Peter who says >

    "nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)

    So, men who are leaders need to be "examples" of what Paul means for women to do.
     
  10. com7fy8

    com7fy8 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Abigail was used by God to correct David so he did not do what could have ruined how we wanted to be a good king.

    She stood up to him, taught him, and used authority to help him.

    1 Samuel 25

    And David did not say, Who are you to teach me or use authority to help me? But David praised God for having her help him . . . to get real correction.

    I see how there is a difference between usurping authority over a person, versus using authority to help someone. Women have authority of God to help men.
     
  11. Albion

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    Three different issues were taken up in the OP, which makes a categorical reply difficult. However, the roles played by the different sexes in Christ's church are based upon Scripture, some of it dealing directly with what Christ himself did.

    Therefore, it is not the case that we can simply say "Well, society was different in those days, so we get to do something of our own choosing in these times."

    Any church body that believes Scripture to be divine revelation, to be the word of God, must be guided by it!

    And in fact, the particular argument that suggests Jesus Christ could not have gone outside the bounds of social protocol in his own time is ridiculous on its face since he did that repeatedly! Doing so caused him to be denounced by the Jewish leaders and, ultimately, arrested by the Roman authorities.
     
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    Thread closed at request of the OP.

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