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Women Pastors?

Discussion in 'Singles (Only*)' started by redblue22, Aug 23, 2016.

  1. Rhamiel

    Rhamiel Member of the Round Table

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    we can look at the very real example that Jesus left us
    He choose 12 men to be Apostles

    there was Martha, Mary Magdalen, and his own Mother, along with other women mentioned in the Gospels
    but Jesus did not choose them to be Apostles

    Jesus choose 12 men

    I do agree that some people put too much focus on St. Paul
    but I also think some people ignore the actions of our Lord
     
  2. Cearbhall

    Cearbhall Well-Known Member

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    Can you imagine how much convincing it would have taken to get a 1st century man to write something else? God certainly wasn't in the habit of taking away people's free will to force them to write things that were way beyond humanity's progress. I always look at this in its cultural context.
     
  3. Swan7

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    This is correct only if God doesn't see a man fitting or obeying the position. Read the story about Deborah and how God used her as a Judge when that was a man's position.

    What Paul is talking about was a cultural issue. Women back then didn't have the education we have today, thus, they had many, many questions within the church and disrupting the service with those questions.

    So, in short, if God puts it in her heart to lead because He sees no man fit for the role, He will put her there for a time.
     
  4. CodyFaith

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    k, well, more ontopic - if you reject Paul then there's probably no reason for you to believe women can't be pastors.

    So that's one way to go about it.
     
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  5. Rhamiel

    Rhamiel Member of the Round Table

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    well I would think that many first century males would have been fine with writing something else

    the Pythia in Greece (oracles at Delphi) and Vestal Virgins in Rome had both been around for well over 600 years by the time Christianity started to spread
    I am not as well versed in Egyptian religion, but they also had Priestesses

    yes, the very early Church was Jewish
    but you can see Church very quickly had a Gentile majority

    so the idea that "oh the idea of priestesses was just beyond these primitive cultures" does not line up with history
     
  6. Cearbhall

    Cearbhall Well-Known Member

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    True. I got lazy and didn't specify "in Paul's culture." ^_^
     
  7. James of Arc

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    You may think I am joking but I am not. I cannot watch a woman preacher without lusting after her in some way or another even if it is for only a few seconds and that is the reason I believe that women should not be on the stage in front of men preaching. A woman does not lust after men but men lust after women and you cant listen to a sermon while checking her out, it is just wrong.

    Example.......[​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Cearbhall

    Cearbhall Well-Known Member

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    I don't see what your lust has to do with what the preacher should or should not do.

    Find a different church and take some responsibility for yourself.
     
  9. CodyFaith

    CodyFaith Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Oh boy...here we go...
    a combination of like three threads tonight...
    [​IMG]
     
  10. James of Arc

    James of Arc Venomous Turtle Supporter

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    God knows mans heart and you don't put a women in front of a crowd of men and have her walk back and forth for an hour, it may be silly but it is true.
     
  11. James of Arc

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    Yep, me too. The autistic snobbery is too much for me to handle.
     
  12. Cearbhall

    Cearbhall Well-Known Member

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    Yes, your argument sounds extremely silly. You would have someone abstain from pursuing God's calling to make your life more convenient?
     
  13. James of Arc

    James of Arc Venomous Turtle Supporter

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    But true.
     
  14. Cearbhall

    Cearbhall Well-Known Member

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    I fail to see how your own moral failings become hers. If a grown man can't handle looking at a fully-clothed female for an hour, he should see a specialist.

    Why do you believe you are entitled to have every church cater to your personal needs and believe that she is not entitled to pursue that profession and preach? You're suggesting that half the population should forego an entire profession, when you could simply find a church with a male preacher and solve the problem like an adult.
     
  15. MehGuy

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    What makes you think women wouldn't lust after a hunk male pastor?

    You're being silly.
     
  16. W2L

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    The apostle Paul knew that his responsibility meant being aware of every mans conscience, and not putting stumbling blocks in the way of others. Paul was concerned about how he can help people, not about asserting his authority. The apostle Paul seems to say that the older woman should be teaching the younger woman, and the older men teaching younger men. Its not about equal rights but is about humility. Those who are greatest in the kingdom will be the least.
     
  17. CodyFaith

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    [​IMG]

    ow owwwww.
     
  18. Cearbhall

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    Better get out there and fire all the attractive male preachers, then.
    My mother used to talk about her childhood priest, Father What-A-Waste. ^_^
     
  19. W2L

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    I don't follow teachers other than the ones in scripture. People who argue over authority lack understanding. Its about being the least, not the greatest.
     
  20. Swan7

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    I've already stated the truth in this thread. What God says and does matters, that's all I'm going to say.
     
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