Wisconsin Assembly bans mention of CRT in school, along with about 100 other things

[perplexed]

Then I guess I better read Mein Kampf before saying anything against Nazis.

Um, if you were living in Germany and you wanted to do something to counter the brainwashing wouldn't reading the relevant text be a good idea ?

 

[pacomascarot]

That's not CRT.

Might I ask how you would know?

CRT isn't a history lesson.

And, again, how would you know anything about education or race issues in the US?

 

[pacomascarot]

He's say the outrage is fake

I should be more clear. The outrage may be genuine but it is predicated on people ginning up outrage where none actually exist and the sheep to whom it is fed swallow it whole and act in accordance. Because to them it is real because Tucker Carlson or Hannity or whomever told them it was.

 

[rambot]

CRT isn't a history lesson.

It's based on history though.

 

[pacomascarot]

It's based on history though.

Not REAL AMERICAN history. In REAL AMERICAN HISTORY we fixed all the problems and they don't have any bearing whatsoever on what is happening today.

The REAL problem needs to be covered in CRITICAL WHITE PERSON THEORY in which scientists of the highest order investigate the outcome of EVERY SINGLE COMPETITION where a white person loses to a person of color so that they might find the HORRIBLE RACISM that resulted in the white person losing.

In CWPT there's a HUGE S.E.M. and T.E.M. budget.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Wisconsin Assembly passes ban on teaching critical race theory

The bill, which passed the Assembly on a 60-38 party-line vote, is all but certain to be vetoed by Democratic Gov. Tony Evers, a former state schools superintendent. The bill has yet to be approved by the Senate.

Banned terms
In testimony before a joint meeting of the Assembly and Senate education committees in August, Rep. Chuck Wichgers, R-Muskego, one of the co-authors of the bill to ban the teaching of critical race theory, outlined a list of additional terms and concepts that he said violate the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution and would be prohibited subjects in the classroom under the bill:

Critical Race Theory (CRT)

Action Civics

Social Emotional Learning (SEL)

Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI)

Culturally responsive teaching

Abolitionist teaching

Affinity groups

Anti-racism

Anti-bias training

Anti-blackness

Anti-meritocracy

Obtuse meritocracy

Centering or de-centering

Collective guilt

Colorism

Conscious and unconscious bias

Critical ethnic studies

Critical pedagogy

Critical self-awareness

Critical self-reflection

Cultural appropriation/misappropriation

Cultural awareness

Cultural competence

Cultural proficiency

Cultural relevance

Cultural responsiveness

Culturally responsive practices

De-centering whiteness

Deconstruct knowledges

Diversity focused

Diversity training

Dominant discourses

Educational justice

Equitable

Equity

Examine “systems"

Free radical therapy

Free radical self/collective care

Hegemony

Identity deconstruction

Implicit/Explicit bias

Inclusivity education

Institutional bias

Institutional oppression

Internalized racial superiority

Internalized racism

Internalized white supremacy

Interrupting racism

Intersection

Intersectionality

Intersectional identities

Intersectional studies

Land acknowledgment

Marginalized identities

Marginalized/Minoritized/Under-represented communities

Microaggressions

Multiculturalism

Neo-segregation

Normativity

Oppressor vs. oppressed

Patriarchy

Protect vulnerable identities

Race essentialism

Racial healing

Racialized identity

Racial justice

Racial prejudice

Racial sensitivity training

Racial supremacy

Reflective exercises

Representation and inclusion

Restorative justice

Restorative practices

Social justice

Spirit murdering

Structural bias

Structural inequity

Structural racism

Systemic bias

Systemic oppression

Systemic racism

Systems of power and oppression

Unconscious bias

White fragility

White privilege

White social capital

White supremacy

Whiteness

Woke

Good luck teaching American history without mentioning any of these subjects.

 

[BNR32FAN]

And you think all this stuff makes a person "a fully rounded human being?"
Critical Race Theory (CRT)
Action Civics
Social Emotional Learning (SEL)
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI)
Culturally responsive teaching
Abolitionist teaching
Affinity groups
Anti-racism
Anti-bias training
Anti-blackness
Anti-meritocracy
Obtuse meritocracy
Centering or de-centering
Collective guilt
Colorism
Conscious and unconscious bias
Critical ethnic studies
Critical pedagogy
Critical self-awareness
Critical self-reflection
Cultural appropriation/misappropriation
Cultural awareness
Cultural competence
Cultural proficiency
Cultural relevance
Cultural responsiveness
Culturally responsive practices
De-centering whiteness
Deconstruct knowledges
Diversity focused
Diversity training
Dominant discourses
Educational justice
Equitable
Equity
Examine “systems"
Free radical therapy
Free radical self/collective care
Hegemony
Identity deconstruction
Implicit/Explicit bias
Inclusivity education
Institutional bias
Institutional oppression
Internalized racial superiority
Internalized racism
Internalized white supremacy
Interrupting racism
Intersection
Intersectionality
Intersectional identities
Intersectional studies
Land acknowledgment
Marginalized identities
Marginalized/Minoritized/Under-represented communities
Microaggressions
Multiculturalism
Neo-segregation
Normativity
Oppressor vs. oppressed
Patriarchy
Protect vulnerable identities
Race essentialism
Racial healing
Racialized identity
Racial justice
Racial prejudice
Racial sensitivity training
Racial supremacy
Reflective exercises
Representation and inclusion
Restorative justice
Restorative practices
Social justice
Spirit murdering
Structural bias
Structural inequity
Structural racism
Systemic bias
Systemic oppression
Systemic racism
Systems of power and oppression
Unconscious bias
White fragility
White privilege
White social capital
White supremacy
Whiteness
Woke

I think knowledge of those subjects is valuable information, as opposed to ignorance of them.

 

[rambot]

I should be more clear. The outrage may be genuine but it is predicated on people ginning up outrage where none actually exist and the sheep to whom it is fed swallow it whole and act in accordance. Because to them it is real because Tucker Carlson or Hannity or whomever told them it was.

Well to be fair to them, the idea that their/our "perfect little system" is not servicing everyone equally is likely quite offensive to them and if THEIR experience of this culture indicates something, than anything that contradicts that is likely ________________ (a lie, untrue, indoctrination, fundamentally flawed, other people "taking advantage"/"lying", wrong).

Wisconsin Assembly passes ban on teaching critical race theory

The bill, which passed the Assembly on a 60-38 party-line vote, is all but certain to be vetoed by Democratic Gov. Tony Evers, a former state schools superintendent. The bill has yet to be approved by the Senate.

Banned terms
In testimony before a joint meeting of the Assembly and Senate education committees in August, Rep. Chuck Wichgers, R-Muskego, one of the co-authors of the bill to ban the teaching of critical race theory, outlined a list of additional terms and concepts that he said violate the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution and would be prohibited subjects in the classroom under the bill:

Critical Race Theory (CRT)

Action Civics

Social Emotional Learning (SEL)

Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI)

Culturally responsive teaching

Abolitionist teaching

Affinity groups

Anti-racism

Anti-bias training

Anti-blackness

Anti-meritocracy

Obtuse meritocracy

Centering or de-centering

Collective guilt

Colorism

Conscious and unconscious bias

Critical ethnic studies

Critical pedagogy

Critical self-awareness

Critical self-reflection

Cultural appropriation/misappropriation

Cultural awareness

Cultural competence

Cultural proficiency

Cultural relevance

Cultural responsiveness

Culturally responsive practices

De-centering whiteness

Deconstruct knowledges

Diversity focused

Diversity training

Dominant discourses

Educational justice

Equitable

Equity

Examine “systems"

Free radical therapy

Free radical self/collective care

Hegemony

Identity deconstruction

Implicit/Explicit bias

Inclusivity education

Institutional bias

Institutional oppression

Internalized racial superiority

Internalized racism

Internalized white supremacy

Interrupting racism

Intersection

Intersectionality

Intersectional identities

Intersectional studies

Land acknowledgment

Marginalized identities

Marginalized/Minoritized/Under-represented communities

Microaggressions

Multiculturalism

Neo-segregation

Normativity

Oppressor vs. oppressed

Patriarchy

Protect vulnerable identities

Race essentialism

Racial healing

Racialized identity

Racial justice

Racial prejudice

Racial sensitivity training

Racial supremacy

Reflective exercises

Representation and inclusion

Restorative justice

Restorative practices

Social justice

Spirit murdering

Structural bias

Structural inequity

Structural racism

Systemic bias

Systemic oppression

Systemic racism

Systems of power and oppression

Unconscious bias

White fragility

White privilege

White social capital

White supremacy

Whiteness

Woke

I believe the legislators understand those concepts exactly 0

 

[Ana the Ist]

He's say the outrage is fake

The outrage is fake? Like the parents yelling at the school boards are really actors?

 

[BNR32FAN]

If they want to teach history, why not words such as:

Constitution
Freedom
Independence
Individuality
Liberty
Rights

These words are far less divisive that the list in the OP. But that's just on the subject of History. When CRT and all that stuff invades other subjects such as Math, English, Science, etc, then we're looking at a situation where a child's entire education is tainted in a way that will lead them nowhere in the future.

I think teens have more of a tendency to learn by observation than what people claim to be true. If what they observe is contradictory to what they’re being told. I don’t think they’ll believe what a textbook tells them over what they can see with their own eyes.

 

[pacomascarot]

Well to be fair to them, the idea that their/our "perfect little system" is not servicing everyone equally is likely quite offensive to them and if THEIR experience of this culture indicates something, than anything that contradicts that is likely

I believe the legislators understand those concepts exactly 0

Agreed. You can always tell when a point is actually relevant because the folks who would have us do nothing howl the loudest when it is raised.

 

[rambot]

Once again, you missed the point. For one thing, this is about indoctrinating children, not simple censorship of viewpoints that have been volunteered by someone. And for another, the Critical Racist Training (CRT) is being mandated, so that's unlike what you are comparing it to also.

"It's about indoctrinating children"; after banning every possible progressive topic in schools for the purpose of doing what exactly? Is this a "won't somebody think about the children?" Maude Flanders. Because you know, kids are actually quite adept at taking in new information and incorporating it into their knowledge schema.

It's adults (like adults who decry the above) that have a great deal of difficulty understanding new concepts.

What a load of passionate toss I see.

 

[rambot]

If they want to teach history, why not words such as:

Constitution
Freedom
Independence
Individuality
Liberty
Rights

These words are far less divisive that the list in the OP. But that's just on the subject of History. When CRT and all that stuff invades other subjects such as Math, English, Science, etc, then we're looking at a situation where a child's entire education is tainted in a way that will lead them nowhere in the future.

Because minority peoples' experience of all the "nice" words that straight white men all love, are NOT as common as yours and so tooting that horn again and again is meaningless.

 

[pacomascarot]

The outrage is fake? Like the parents yelling at the school boards are really actors?

The outrage is not fake among the folks who take up the banner. They are unwittingly being fed a ginned-up outrage by people much smarter and more conniving than they are.

Most of the folks who march forward in the "battle against CRT" simply aren't sufficiently skilled to think critically.

 

[rambot]

The outrage is fake? Like the parents yelling at the school boards are really actors?

No he clarified what he meant.

 

[rambot]

I should be more clear. The outrage may be genuine but it is predicated on people ginning up outrage where none actually exist and the sheep to whom it is fed swallow it whole and act in accordance. Because to them it is real because Tucker Carlson or Hannity or whomever told them it was.

Well to be fair to them, the idea that their/our "perfect little system" is not servicing everyone equally is likely quite offensive to them and if THEIR experience of this culture indicates something, than anything that contradicts that is likely

 

[Bradskii]

Then I guess I better read Mein Kampf before saying anything against Nazis.

If you're having a discussion with someone about Nazi ideology and how it developed and why people supported it then yes, you'd be a lot better informed if you'd actually read it (although a page turner it is not). Any position is better served by understanding both sides of the argument. What you are telling us is that you only want to investigate what supports your view.

If you want to admit that then people will treat your arguments accordingly. Which I've noticed that quite a few do.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Might I ask how you would know?

Back when people were telling me to "just acknowledge my privilege" and I hadn't heard of the concepts they were floating....I started looking into the origins of these ideas.

Maybe 6 years ago now.

And, again, how would you know anything about education or race issues in the US?

I pay attention.

 

[pacomascarot]

Back when people were telling me to "just acknowledge my privilege" and I hadn't heard of the concepts they were floating....I started looking into the origins of these ideas.

Maybe 6 years ago now.

And what did you learn about your privilege? Are you white? Are you male? Are you cis-gendered?

 

[pacomascarot]

Of course CRT and Nazism are not exactly a good comparison to a reasonable person.

Well, there are a lot of white people in America who are feeling pretty horrifically repressed. I recently heard about a white guy who LOST A JOB to a person of color (!!!!) I wonder if our nation can survive this.