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Hello Family of God,

What is the Great Commission? And how do we respond to it? This may ruffle some feathers; but this needs to be told to those who are sitting idly by and being complacent as a "self-professed" Christian.

"But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead. (Matthew 8:22)"

"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, [and teach all nations], baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Matthew 28:18-20)"

"Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. (James 2:17-19)"

How are we to make disciples of Jesus? The first part of Matthew 28:19-20 deals with leading others to salvation (that is how they come to be "baptized" into the Trinity); the second part is leading them forward in Christ once they belong to Christ. Verse 20 explains to us that this is done "by" *teaching them*. After all, a [disciple] ("mathetes") is a "learner" and an adherent of the truth which the teacher is teaching. Jesus is our Teacher and the Gospel, the entire realm of all of God's truth about the Kingdom contained in all scripture, is what we are supposed to learn, not merely in an academic way, but in a deep and intrinsic way, believing it through the ministry of the Spirit, living it, and helping others to do the same through the proper function of our individual spiritual gifts. Much damage has been done to this passage by those who have a false view of what "discipleship" is (generally it involves some "teacher" or "mentor" taking away one's free will which is absolutely anathema to genuine Christianity). This passage is completely consistent with all other scripture which makes it our mandate as Christians to grow spiritually, and then to help others to do likewise once we become spiritually mature and come into the full function of our own particular gifts.

Not everyone is called to be a missionary, but all believers are called to spread the truth of the Word of God -- and to teach all nations (Grk. "ethnos"; i.e.,"Gentiles, peoples"). Those who have made it clear that they are not willing to listen to our words of truth and want no more part of them are not going to be persuaded by us getting more aggressive. That is the very definition of casting pearls before swine -- and we know what the outcome of that ill-advised procedure is. So we ought to take care not to allow ourselves to be trampled, but keep on praying. What we cannot do, the Lord can surely do. He knows very well how to get a wayward believer's attention -- and He will, at just the right time and in just the right way. There is not much more we can do beyond this point, except to keep praying.

"And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. (Matthew 4:19)"

There are always disagreements that I have with certain preachers and bible teachers of the past and the present; however, I do find one statement from C.H. Spurgeon that is absolutely TRUE as the Word of God can testify of its veracity. It is:

"Have you no wish for others to be saved? Then you're not saved yourself, be sure of that!"

The Word of God is replete with passages instructing us to minister to those who are lost and in dire need of the Gospel message (Matt. 9:37-38; 10:7-14; Mk. 16:15; Rom. 1:16; 1 Cor. 1:17; 2 Cor. 5:20; Eph. 2:10; 4:11; 2 Tim. 2:15; 4:5; 1 Pet. 3:15). The major problem in "Christendom" today is that most of the "soldiers" have fallen by the wayside and given up. Even more disturbing are those in a higher position who have been given MORE talents in order to serve the Lord as they were called to do so; and that they seem to have no interest in saving those who are in danger of hellfire (cf. Jas. 3:1). I am NOT speaking of those who disseminate false teachings on a regular basis; I am speaking of unbelievers who are NOT saved and are caught up in a cycle of sin which entangles them. The bible refers to such "servants" of the Lord as "fearful"; and "ashamed of the Gospel" (cf. Rev. 21:8; Matt. 25:26; Rom. 1:16).

Since our Lord used the fishing analogy -- and our Lord has made all of us believers "fishers of men" (Matt.4:19; Mk.1:17) -- we also know that every fisherman has his/her own technique and that all fish are different too. What all fish have in common is that if they are not biting, we are not going to catch them. But if they ARE biting, then a practiced fisherman who exercises patience always has a good chance. And in terms of actual witnessing, God is the One who is empowering the process and bringing success (cf. Ps. 90:17; Isa. 64:4; Eph. 2:10; Phil. 2:13; 1 Thess. 2:13; Heb. 13:21). Divine love is the "anchor point" which compels genuine believers to reach out to the lost; and this is a sure sign that one has truly passed from death unto life (Matt. 7:12; Jn. 13:34-35; 1 Jn. 4:8-21).

So the first thing is to determine if we really are being offered an opportunity. That is fairly easy to do, it seems to me. If the person knows we are Christian (our outward manifestation of our hearts and motives; Matt. 5:16; 23:3; 1 Cor. 11:1; Eph. 5:1; Phil. 3:17; Col. 3:17; 2 Thess. 3:9; 1 Tim. 4:12; Tit. 2:7; 3 Jn. 1:11; et al.), and if we dangle a little bait, something like, "yes, the recent tragedy at XYZ is terrible -- I don't know HOW people get through this world without the Christian hope!" Now if someone really is searching for the solution to sin and death, they are likely to nibble at that one (and, by the way, I'm NOT suggesting this particular one for me --everyone has their own way of stating the divine and godly viewpoint of anticipation of salvation and eternal life, and every prospective believer is different too, and we must take the audience into account in how exactly we express the truth, remembering that the truth always has to be presented truly).

If they don't nibble, we might want to think about waiting for a better time and a better opportunity. We can't force the issue. We wait in the boat for a bite. We can wiggle the hook, but we can't make the fish bite. If we bang on the water with an oar and command the fish to come up, guess what. We may be making ourselves feel better ("Look at me! I witnessed to so and so!" -- but they didn't respond), but we are not winning anyone to the Lord that way. The fish have a vote, because it's all about free will (Ps. 37:23; Prov. 16:9; Josh. 24:15; Jn. 1:12-13; 7:17; Rom. 10:9-10; cf. Rev. 3:20).

What if they do nibble? I think it can be a mistake to introduce the issue of sin IMMEDIATELY in giving the gospel, except for the critical facts that we are all sinners, that Christ died for all of our sins, and that all of our sins are forgiven when we believe (Lk. 24:45-49; Rom. 1:16; 10:9-13,14; 1 Cor. 15:1-28; Eph. 1:13-14; 1 Pet. 3:18-22; 1 Jn. 4:9-10). Don't forget: the gospel changes all who respond to it. The heart is washed clean. The person is given a new heart, one devoid of hardness. At the point of salvation, the new believer is freed from all prior sinful entanglement (Ezek. 36:26; Rom. 6:6; 2 Cor. 3:18; 5:17; Eph. 4:24; 1 Jn. 5:4). If they really are ready to persevere with the Lord from that point forward, He will help them to walk a sanctified walk, and change whatever it is that needs to be changed. But if we make an issue of some sin or sinful behavior in which they are enmeshed BEFORE the fact, then we are putting conditions on salvation -- and there are no conditions on salvation . . . except to accept the Gift of Jesus Christ, acknowledging who He is and what He has done for us through faith in Him.

Death is something that almost every human dreads (except believers), and the offer of life eternal is the most wonderful thing on this earth. To avoid death,darkness and judgment is worth all a person has, like selling everything for the pearl of great price. If the Spirit convicts someone's heart of that truth, they will flee death by running to the gospel; they will need little convincing from us. The Spirit is the One who really does the convincing (Jn. 14:15-17,26; 16:8; 2 Cor. 7:9-10). Our job is to provide the truth, the simple yet incredibly powerful truth of the gospel. It is not up to us to try and fine tune an "after response". If we do that, there may very well be no "after response" because the person will see the gospel as huge load that requires them to "give up" this and that. Now we know very well ourself that we all ended up giving up "this and that" after we believed because the gospel and the truth we learn and accept thereafter changed us. It is the same for everyone. But that happens AFTER; it is not a BEFORE condition.

And we don't have to worry about "saying sin is OK" either, not if we are witnessing correctly. Now if we are jamming the gospel down the throats of people who aren't interested in it, then this may be an issue because they are only interested in justifying their conduct and not in being saved, so that is where the discussion went. But if we are really only responding in love to those few who demonstrate that they DO want the truth, then it will all work fine (cf. 1 Jn. 4:11; Prov. 15:1-7; 27:6; Lk. 6:27; Rom. 8:28; 12:9-21; 1 Cor. 13:4-7; Col. 3:12). If they want eternal life and are grateful to accept Jesus Christ, guess what? They will easily begin to turn their lives to Him in all respects after they are saved. That is, if we net them after we have fished them.

How do we net them? All too many Christians and even major Christian groups engaged in evangelism get the fish to the surface and then let them go (Gal. 6:9; Rom. 10:13-14; cf. 1 Cor. 11:1-2; 2 Cor. 5:18-20; 2 Tim. 4:1-2; 2 Thess. 2:14-15; Jas. 5:19-20). No. We have to give them direction thereafter, help them to grow as we have grown. Of course, way too many Christians and Christian groups involved in evangelism have not grown to spiritual maturity themselves, so even if they have them their nets are filled with holes if and when they do use them. A new believer has to be led to a place where he/she can grow in the truth (cf. Rom. 12:13; 1 Cor. 12:12-27; Col. 3:13; 1 Thess. 5:14; Heb. 10:24-25; 1 Pet. 4:8-11). That should be a local church but today most of these are sadly deficient of the score of helping to produce genuine growth because they don't teach the truth in any depth of detail. Nowadays one finds what one can find where one can find it. I would be pleased for any new believer to be pointed to (or Bible Academy) or any other place where the truth really is being taught. But pointing a new believer to a legalistic "church" that will dictate their behavior or to a libertarian church that will tell them it's all OK (whatever "it" is) will not produce growth in either case, and a very large number of such new believers "get away" and revert to the world as a result.

In Closing:

If a person really does want to hear the gospel, that is of God: give them the gospel. Once we do, if they accept Jesus Christ as their Savior, their hearts will convict them to turn away from anything and everything sinful, regardless of past behavior or beliefs. And if they are led to a good place where they can grow, they will do so in increasing sanctification. But if they aren't really that interested in the truth, will they believe? And if they "believe" on condition of doing ABC, are they really saved or is it a works contract in their heart? And even if they legitimately accept Christ, without being led to a place where they can grow, will they be able to resist the siren song of the world and their prior lives so as not to fall back away? Only the truth can save a person. Only desire for the truth can motivate a person to be saved. Only continued attention to the truth can keep a person safe after being saved.

"Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. (Matthew 10:32-40)"

"Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. (Proverbs 27:6)"

"Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed: And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine. His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed: Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (Matthew 25:24-30)"

"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. (Matthew 24:14)"

God Bless!
 

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So many people quote this, but Jesus didn't say go out and make everyone a disciple of a particular church he said " Go out into all the world and make them " my " disciples " To be a disciple of Jesus Christ you have to follow his teachings to "First look at the beam in your eye before you look at the mote in your brother " .'Seek first the kingdom of God and all things will be added unto you " And where is that kingdom " "within you " as he told us. Then by doing the hard labor of working on yourself first you you will know what a person needs a cup of cold water or a word or two or just even a smile . Then you will be a example to others that there is something more to life and they will want to know more from you than just going out and trying to ram the Bible down people throats . That is the " way " Jesus taught us in the scriptures.
 
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Hi John Bowen,

You seem a little agitated. If I said something that may have upset you, then I do apologize; it is never my motive to agitate people. I hope that you are enjoying your weekend and using your time productively. My intention is to have Christians to be proactive in their ministry. So many of what you said indicates that you must have rushed through my post too quickly without *grasping* the full meaning behind what I had wrote. I wouldn't blame you; my posts are usually very long. Oftentimes church-goers attend church weekly and live the rest of their lives no different than the rest of the unsaved world. We must be the *salt* of the earth, and a *light* which is not to be hid under a bushel. However, as SALT of the Earth; salt can at times be an *irritant* to the lost; and could result in upsetting unbelievers. I actually said *exactly* what you had wrote in your response to me. Ramming the Gospel down people's throat is the incorrect approach. You must have skimmed through my post too quickly; because I made such mention as it is the negative and "incorrect approach" in ministering the Gospel to those who need to hear it. I've seen this approach quite often with "street evangelists" -- and most of the time, the one being preached to end up walking in the other direction. This is why Jesus said to be *wise* as serpents and *harmless* as doves.

Secondly, I agree with what you said: that you are to remove the log in your own eye first to SEE CLEARLY, so that you may remove the speck in the eye of your brother; and that you should practice what you preach --so I absolutely agree with you. Making *disciples* of the teachings of Christ is what is taught in Scripture; and it is also what I was trying to explain in my OP. Not that those who we preach and teach the Gospel to are to be our OWN "personal" disciple. The Word of God says that if they receive us and our message; then they have received Christ and His message (cf. Matt. 10:40). Thanks for your response; I greatly appreciate it. It shows that you have a heart for God and for spreading the Good News of the Gospel. The only issue I have with what you wrote was that I detected frustration within you; and I believe that is the *incorrect approach* to BOTH the lost and the redeemed. Time is short . . . all of us have to keep ourselves *occupied* until our Lord comes for His Bride (Lk. 19:13). Enjoy the rest of your weekend. I must move forward now . . . Take care!

God Bless!
 
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TO ALL:
So many times the scriptures are taken out of context! Why do I say that?
Scriptures are quoted multitudes of times, but seldom as the apostle Paul said that they should be.
Over and over it is read that Jesus said this and Jesus said that; however, who was He speaking to when He did say these things? The Jews,not the gentiles!

Jesus, after His resurrection,appeared unto the apostle Paul and appointed Him to be the apostle to the Gentiles and the believing Jews. Before that occurred Jesus and His disciples were talking only to the Jews, not the Gentiles. So to take what was said to the Jews and apply it to the Gentiles, or ones self, is gross error.

Does this mean that what Jesus said should be ignored? No, it does not. It does mean however that what He said to the Jews is to the Jews and not to the Gentile world.

Mth.10:5 Go not to the Gentiles!
Rom 1:1 I speak to the Gentiles as much as I am an aposele to the Gentiles.

These two statements separate the gosples written for the Jews from the Ones written for the Gentiles by Paul. the apostle of the Gentiles. Jesus deciples were for the Jews and what He told Them to speak was to the Jews and not the gentiles.
So now people take what was written to the Jews, for the Jews of Judeah, and try and apply it to the Gentiles. This is a judgment for those who do such a thing! This is apart of the false doctrine that Paul warned about.
What is for the Gentiles of this age Paul wrote on. The disciples wrote to the Jews only. You can not mix water and oil! To try and do so bring about a useless effort.
Beware, there is a price to be paid for promoting false doctrines.
Let the readers of scriptures beware!

Andy Centek
 
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I glad you are fired up to help Jesus , but sometimes we can have the right speed ,but wrong sense of direction . I am not agitated people think being a good Christian is always talking kind and gentle .Jesus didn't always do that as we see in scriptures he was willing to try and shake people out of their mental boxes. I wasn't challenging you , but the world consciousness of that says we don't have to change our selves first by internalizing the words of Jesus before we try and change others. The true teachings of Jesus Christ that he taught 2000 yrs ago is following the inner path .Thats how you become a true follower of Christ .Jesus Christ isn't coming back cause he never left as he told us " I am with you always " Jesus will never appear in the sky as so many people believe and justify those who are always looking for the outer savior instead of finding Jesus in the kingdom that is with in you as he said . that would go against God's supreme law of free will and deny people their right to deny Christ. Unfortunately thats not being taught in the world the same as when Jesus was before the scribes and Pharisees who knew the outer word by heart who appeared to be doing all the outer things right according to their society and what did Jesus say about them ?
 
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I glad you are fired up to help Jesus , but sometimes we can have the right speed ,but wrong sense of direction . I am not agitated people think being a good Christian is always talking kind and gentle .Jesus didn't always do that as we see in scriptures he was willing to try and shake people out of their mental boxes. I wasn't challenging you , but the world consciousness of that says we don't have to change our selves first by internalizing the words of Jesus before we try and change others. The true teachings of Jesus Christ that he taught 2000 yrs ago is following the inner path .Thats how you become a true follower of Christ .Jesus Christ isn't coming back cause he never left as he told us " I am with you always " Jesus will never appear in the sky as so many people believe and justify those who are always looking for the outer savior instead of finding Jesus in the kingdom that is with in you as he said . that would go against God's supreme law of free will and deny people their right to deny Christ. Unfortunately thats not being taught in the world the same as when Jesus was before the scribes and Pharisees who knew the outer word by heart who appeared to be doing all the outer things right according to their society and what did Jesus say about them ?
Biblical history usually shows prophesy being fulfilled in more than one way to complete fulfillment, no?
 
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