A "sharing" originally posted at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/puttingonthemindofChrist/message/25
From: "ourfamily1gn" <goodnewsinc@juno.com>
Date: Sat Dec 29, 2001 8:55 am
Subject: Will the REAL Jesus PLEASE "stand up"!
Will the REAL Jesus Please Stand Up?!
John 5:34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.
John 2:25 And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.
Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Preachers and human "witnesses" come a dime a dozen. Churches can be found on almost any corner in the US. Street preachers stand on corners some of them with microphones, just like "children in the market places ".
Luke 7:31 And the Lord said, Whereunto then shall I liken the men of this generation? and to what are they like? 32 They are like unto children sitting in the marketplace, and calling one to another, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned to you, and ye have not wept.
All these men will profess to you that "God called me" and "I am sent" by the Holy Ghost. All of them say, "Jesus is the Christ", and they are zealous to give their personal testimony and witness about how much "they know" Jesus.
KJV Luke 4:41 And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.
But the "wise" will take Jesus' warning about our time and apply it to his mind. There are many blind men and false witnesses "sent" by the devil to delude men by saying that "Jesus is the Christ" to suck unwary men into their dark vortex. Jesus DOES NOT receive testimony from men! The blind men of each generation receive testimony from other men! If you were taught by men, then YOU received testimony from men in the market places. They piped to you and you danced! They wept before you and you mourned. But do you know:
Philippians 3:18 For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Think of all the sermons you have heard and all the preachers you have heard and seen in real life and on radio and TV. These are the children in the market places of the religious world. These are the "pipers" and men in their audiences are the "would-be" dancers. The deception is so thick that "if it were possible they shall deceive the very elect". If you cannot hear Father's voice and you have not seen his shape, you might have relied on the witness of these men. You might testify of one or more of them and call them "your pastor". In the GOOD NEWS, we do not testify of men giving man "recognition and credit", because we know what "spirit" is in men, even in believing men! Oh yes! Check it out: Matthew 16:22-23, Luke 9:54-55 and Jude 1:6, 16.
If you fancy yourself to be a Christian, "believer", and a saint of Jesus Christ, you are fair "game" to the devil. They view you as a tool for their use! Daniel 7:21-22, Revelation 13:4-7. The devil tried to "use" Jesus on the mountain of temptation, Matthew 4:1-11. They used Peter many times. And I am sure they have used YOU even though you think you KNOW Jesus. If your knowledge of Christ came from the preachers, then you "received testimony from men", and you know what spirit is in man! You cannot trust men and their words, because Jesus warned "many will come in my name saying I am Christ". There will be so "many false prophets and preachers that if it were possible they would deceive the very elect". But who are these persons to whom Jesus is referring? There are thousands and thousands of Christian preachers, who come in the name of Jesus, and every one of them will tell you, "Jesus was not speaking about ME"! How will you know them except by their fruits? We judge trees by the fruit they bear. Your sight is at stake here! How will you discern "who is who" among the preachers, when ALL OF THEM will swear to you that they are being led by the Spirit of God and not by demons? Your "freedom from deceit" is on the line here.
By their fruits you shall know them.
READ Matthew 7:20-27
Those who take money from men in the form of tithes and offerings against Jesus' DIRECT ORDERS to his disciple (Matthew 10:8-10) are identified by the mammon fruit! These are the "hirelings of men" paid by Christians to be their preachers, John 10:7-14. Jesus called them thieves and robbers because all that comes from our Father is FREE TO ALL! You cannot "serve for mammon" and expect to receive the greatest treasures of light from the Father, Luke 16:10-13. God does not reverse Himself in these matters. Do not expect that a preacher who takes money can teach you the greatest treasures of God. He WILL NOT get them and his followers will not get them from him! All unjust stewards can expect to lose what they seem to have!
Those who teach a "hell-fire and brimstone" demise for most of mankind in the end are microphones for devils. They blindfold men with the hope of the devil. This END for humanity is totally against (anti Christ) the very purpose of Jesus' birth and death; it defies his own words; and opposes his work as our Redeemer and Savior of the world!
John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Hosea 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.
John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
Buying and selling in the churches
As you know Babylon's thing is buying and selling, merchandising, and profit-making all over the world. In Revelation 18, she is said to have "made the whole world drunk off the wine of her fornication". This has two meanings. The sexual and sodomitic aspect of this is obvious. Here is the other meaning. ALL OF THE WORLD is drunk from the wine of profiteering. We saw in the prophecies of Daniel and John that the Dragon presides OVER the saints and the churches having "overcome them". Preachers, churches, and Christians do not like to face these truths, nor do they like to think about them. They prefer to believe wrongly that these things are "NOT SO"! This is because of their vain ego and "self-righteous" desire. But you cannot make Daniel, John, and Jesus into liars and false witnesses just so you can remain deceived into thinking you are spotless and wrinkle free. In Revelation 17 Babylon is observed riding the Dragon as his master. So when the Beast overcame the saints (Daniel 7-8) and the churches, it was under the direction and auspices of Babylon herself! The key of discovering how this came about is "merchandising". Jesus threw out from the temple all those who bought and sold, and he overthrew the tables of the money-changers. He said, "My Father's house is the house of prayer, but you have made it into a den of thieves"! He chased away both the buyers and the sellers. The buyers are the so called "worshippers"! Today we discover Babylon still "playing footsie" with the preachers, churches and Christians by having them sell Bibles, books, audio-tapes, video-tapes, doctrines and literature, praying hands, beads, and crosses and mementos of all kinds including incense. Anything that has to do with Jesus or Christian worship is for sale in churches, Christian bookstores, and on the Internet for generous "offerings" or a specified sale price. So you see, it IS NOT the Holy Spirit who presides over the churches, but Babylon and the Beast reside over them. These religionists are all caught before God and the Heavenly Court NAKED and committing spiritual fornication together openly and without shame like Laodicea, Revelation 3:14-22. We must "Buy the truth and SELL IT NOT", Proverbs 23:23! What Christians, preachers and churches are doing is a violation of this commandment. They are following Babylon's instructions and advice to "Sell it! Sell it! SELL IT"! They are not following Jesus.
Is it too hard for you to discover "Who are those hoodwinked by Babylon"? Are you one of those who bought any of the above mentioned items from the preachers, churches and religious writers? You need to "Come out of her and be separate"! If you paid for it, it is not the true "water of life", Revelation 21:6, 21:17.
The real Jesus STANDS clear and foremost in contrast with the Jesus in the described by the testimony of human preachers. Here are some documents you should read. They are eye openers! You may find these in GOOD NEWS, volume 4 at any GOOD NEWS web-site.
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/talestrs.html
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/crucify.html
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/anticrst.html
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/nosting.html
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/mysake.html
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/fly707.html
http://goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/forallmen.htm
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/IndisputableTruth.htm
We cannot expect that most men WANT to see the real Jesus, because he defies what human preachers have taught them. "Men love darkness more than light" because it is comfortable to them and they can sleep in it! The REAL JESUS comes as intruding brilliant light and he hurts their eyes! Isaiah 30:8-12. "Get that bright light out of my eyes! Can't you see I am sleeping!"
READ Song of Solomon 5:1-6
"Are you sleeping, brother John and sister Sue? Morning bells are ringing ding, dong, ding"! Check out the parable of the ten virgins, http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/ten.html Can you say, "Amen"!
GOOD NEWS, Inc.
From: "ourfamily1gn" <goodnewsinc@juno.com>
Date: Sat Dec 29, 2001 8:55 am
Subject: Will the REAL Jesus PLEASE "stand up"!
Will the REAL Jesus Please Stand Up?!
John 5:34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.
John 2:25 And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.
Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Preachers and human "witnesses" come a dime a dozen. Churches can be found on almost any corner in the US. Street preachers stand on corners some of them with microphones, just like "children in the market places ".
Luke 7:31 And the Lord said, Whereunto then shall I liken the men of this generation? and to what are they like? 32 They are like unto children sitting in the marketplace, and calling one to another, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned to you, and ye have not wept.
All these men will profess to you that "God called me" and "I am sent" by the Holy Ghost. All of them say, "Jesus is the Christ", and they are zealous to give their personal testimony and witness about how much "they know" Jesus.
KJV Luke 4:41 And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.
But the "wise" will take Jesus' warning about our time and apply it to his mind. There are many blind men and false witnesses "sent" by the devil to delude men by saying that "Jesus is the Christ" to suck unwary men into their dark vortex. Jesus DOES NOT receive testimony from men! The blind men of each generation receive testimony from other men! If you were taught by men, then YOU received testimony from men in the market places. They piped to you and you danced! They wept before you and you mourned. But do you know:
Philippians 3:18 For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Think of all the sermons you have heard and all the preachers you have heard and seen in real life and on radio and TV. These are the children in the market places of the religious world. These are the "pipers" and men in their audiences are the "would-be" dancers. The deception is so thick that "if it were possible they shall deceive the very elect". If you cannot hear Father's voice and you have not seen his shape, you might have relied on the witness of these men. You might testify of one or more of them and call them "your pastor". In the GOOD NEWS, we do not testify of men giving man "recognition and credit", because we know what "spirit" is in men, even in believing men! Oh yes! Check it out: Matthew 16:22-23, Luke 9:54-55 and Jude 1:6, 16.
If you fancy yourself to be a Christian, "believer", and a saint of Jesus Christ, you are fair "game" to the devil. They view you as a tool for their use! Daniel 7:21-22, Revelation 13:4-7. The devil tried to "use" Jesus on the mountain of temptation, Matthew 4:1-11. They used Peter many times. And I am sure they have used YOU even though you think you KNOW Jesus. If your knowledge of Christ came from the preachers, then you "received testimony from men", and you know what spirit is in man! You cannot trust men and their words, because Jesus warned "many will come in my name saying I am Christ". There will be so "many false prophets and preachers that if it were possible they would deceive the very elect". But who are these persons to whom Jesus is referring? There are thousands and thousands of Christian preachers, who come in the name of Jesus, and every one of them will tell you, "Jesus was not speaking about ME"! How will you know them except by their fruits? We judge trees by the fruit they bear. Your sight is at stake here! How will you discern "who is who" among the preachers, when ALL OF THEM will swear to you that they are being led by the Spirit of God and not by demons? Your "freedom from deceit" is on the line here.
By their fruits you shall know them.
READ Matthew 7:20-27
Those who take money from men in the form of tithes and offerings against Jesus' DIRECT ORDERS to his disciple (Matthew 10:8-10) are identified by the mammon fruit! These are the "hirelings of men" paid by Christians to be their preachers, John 10:7-14. Jesus called them thieves and robbers because all that comes from our Father is FREE TO ALL! You cannot "serve for mammon" and expect to receive the greatest treasures of light from the Father, Luke 16:10-13. God does not reverse Himself in these matters. Do not expect that a preacher who takes money can teach you the greatest treasures of God. He WILL NOT get them and his followers will not get them from him! All unjust stewards can expect to lose what they seem to have!
Those who teach a "hell-fire and brimstone" demise for most of mankind in the end are microphones for devils. They blindfold men with the hope of the devil. This END for humanity is totally against (anti Christ) the very purpose of Jesus' birth and death; it defies his own words; and opposes his work as our Redeemer and Savior of the world!
John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Hosea 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.
John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
Buying and selling in the churches
As you know Babylon's thing is buying and selling, merchandising, and profit-making all over the world. In Revelation 18, she is said to have "made the whole world drunk off the wine of her fornication". This has two meanings. The sexual and sodomitic aspect of this is obvious. Here is the other meaning. ALL OF THE WORLD is drunk from the wine of profiteering. We saw in the prophecies of Daniel and John that the Dragon presides OVER the saints and the churches having "overcome them". Preachers, churches, and Christians do not like to face these truths, nor do they like to think about them. They prefer to believe wrongly that these things are "NOT SO"! This is because of their vain ego and "self-righteous" desire. But you cannot make Daniel, John, and Jesus into liars and false witnesses just so you can remain deceived into thinking you are spotless and wrinkle free. In Revelation 17 Babylon is observed riding the Dragon as his master. So when the Beast overcame the saints (Daniel 7-8) and the churches, it was under the direction and auspices of Babylon herself! The key of discovering how this came about is "merchandising". Jesus threw out from the temple all those who bought and sold, and he overthrew the tables of the money-changers. He said, "My Father's house is the house of prayer, but you have made it into a den of thieves"! He chased away both the buyers and the sellers. The buyers are the so called "worshippers"! Today we discover Babylon still "playing footsie" with the preachers, churches and Christians by having them sell Bibles, books, audio-tapes, video-tapes, doctrines and literature, praying hands, beads, and crosses and mementos of all kinds including incense. Anything that has to do with Jesus or Christian worship is for sale in churches, Christian bookstores, and on the Internet for generous "offerings" or a specified sale price. So you see, it IS NOT the Holy Spirit who presides over the churches, but Babylon and the Beast reside over them. These religionists are all caught before God and the Heavenly Court NAKED and committing spiritual fornication together openly and without shame like Laodicea, Revelation 3:14-22. We must "Buy the truth and SELL IT NOT", Proverbs 23:23! What Christians, preachers and churches are doing is a violation of this commandment. They are following Babylon's instructions and advice to "Sell it! Sell it! SELL IT"! They are not following Jesus.
Is it too hard for you to discover "Who are those hoodwinked by Babylon"? Are you one of those who bought any of the above mentioned items from the preachers, churches and religious writers? You need to "Come out of her and be separate"! If you paid for it, it is not the true "water of life", Revelation 21:6, 21:17.
The real Jesus STANDS clear and foremost in contrast with the Jesus in the described by the testimony of human preachers. Here are some documents you should read. They are eye openers! You may find these in GOOD NEWS, volume 4 at any GOOD NEWS web-site.
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/talestrs.html
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/crucify.html
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/anticrst.html
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/nosting.html
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/mysake.html
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/fly707.html
http://goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/forallmen.htm
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/IndisputableTruth.htm
We cannot expect that most men WANT to see the real Jesus, because he defies what human preachers have taught them. "Men love darkness more than light" because it is comfortable to them and they can sleep in it! The REAL JESUS comes as intruding brilliant light and he hurts their eyes! Isaiah 30:8-12. "Get that bright light out of my eyes! Can't you see I am sleeping!"
READ Song of Solomon 5:1-6
"Are you sleeping, brother John and sister Sue? Morning bells are ringing ding, dong, ding"! Check out the parable of the ten virgins, http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/ten.html Can you say, "Amen"!
GOOD NEWS, Inc.