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Will The Little Horn, Beast, Antichrist, Be A Literal Human Man?

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Truth7t7, Jan 10, 2018.

  1. Truth7t7

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    The scripture clearly teaches that the Little Horn, Beast, Antichrist, will be a literal human man.

    Daniel 11:36-37

    He, His, Him, Himself

    Daniel 7:11

    He will be slain "Die" and "His Body" given to the flame.

    A Literal Living Human Man, That Has A Human Body That Will Die.

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    That's right.

    For the man commonly called the Antichrist will be the fulfillment of the individual "man of sin" (2 Thessalonians 2:3), who will sit (at least one time) in a future, third Jewish temple building in Jerusalem and proclaim himself God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36). He will fulfill the individual "man" aspect of the "beast" who will come (Revelation 13:18), and bring the world into the conscious and open worship of Lucifer (Satan, the dragon), and himself (Revelation 13:4,8, Revelation 12:9). He will rule the earth for 3.5 literal years (Revelation 13:5-10, Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7), and will have a miracle-working False Prophet (Revelation 19:20, Revelation 16:13), who by amazing, Satanic miracles (2 Thessalonians 2:9b), such as calling fire down from heaven (Revelation 13:13), will deceive the people of the world into worshipping a speaking (possibly an android) image of the Antichrist (Revelation 13:15), and receiving a mark of the Antichrist's name or gematrial name-number (666) on their right hand or forehead (Revelation 13:16-18). The Antichrist and his False Prophet will ultimately be cast into the lake of fire at Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming (Revelation 19:20), while at that time Satan will be bound in the Bottomless Pit for 1,000 years (Revelation 20:1-3). (None of these things has happened yet.)
     
  3. Truth7t7

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    No 1000 year kingdom on this earth found in scripture.

    Matthew 25:31-46

    Jesus returns in the final judgment, eternal life, eternal kingdom.

    Verses 31-32 Jesus returns with the angels, the nations are gatheted for judgment.

    Verse 34 The eternal kingdom is presented to the righteous.

    Verse 41 The wicked are judged to the eternal lake of fire.

    Verse 46 The righteous obtain eternal life, and enter the eternal kingdom in verse 34.

    "Eternity Begins"!
     
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    The mouth speaking great things in Daniel 7:8 is the same mouth speaking great blasphmies in Revelation 13:5

    Daniel witnessed the mouth speaking great things, until he was slain, and his body was given to the flame, final judgment. Daniel 7:11

    The horn of Daniel 7:21 makes war with the saints and prevails against them.

    The very same horn/beast does the same in Revelation 13:7 why?

    Because the little horn of Daniel 7 and the Beast of Revelation 13 are the same future human man, that will proclaim to be God, the Antichrist of Daniel and Revelation.

    Antiochus don't fit the bill, in fulfilling the little horn of Daniel 7

    However the beast of Revelation 13:5-7 does, and the book of Revelation was written in 96AD, long after Antiochus died.

    Will you deny the fact that both accounts have great mouths, and they both make war with the saints, and prevail/overcome them?

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  6. BABerean2

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    At one time I believed the same thing.

    Why did I believe it?

    Because the Dispensational Futurists told me that the Little Horn was a future antichrist.

    Antiochus Epiphanes was a real person who during 167 BC set up a statue in the sanctuary, and had a pig slaughtered on the altar, and killed thousands of Jews in the city in Jerusalem, and did forbid the people from carrying out the sacrifices, and forbid mothers from having their children circumcised. He was later defeated and the temple was rededicated, about 3 years after 167 BC. The celebration of the temple being rededicated is found in John 10:22. It is known as Hanukkah. These are historical facts confirmed by numerous sources, instead of just one man.

    Anitochus Epiphanes could most certainly be a type, or shadow of a future end-time leader of a world government.

    However, I have learned not to trust what comes out of the mouth of Hal Lindsay and his ilk, who are chief proponents of the doctrine found in the Scofield Reference Bible.

    Sometimes it is extremely difficult to unlearn what we have been taught in the past.

    I would ask that you do an exhaustive study of Antiochus Epiphanes, and the events of 167 BC, and the celebration of Hanukkah.
    Or you could just continue to believe what Hal Lindsay tells you...

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  7. Another Lazarus

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    I dont know if you seriously ask the question but it cannot be explained by a few words to answer it.
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  8. Truth7t7

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    I don't care about dispensationalism, Scofield's notes, or Hal Lindsey either.

    Do both accounts have a mouth speaking great words, do both accounts have a little horn/beast making war with the saints and prevailing/overcoming them?

    100% Yes!

    Scripture has clearly interpreted scripture.

    70X70

    The mouth speaking great things in Daniel 7:8 is the same mouth speaking great blasphmies in Revelation 13:5

    Daniel witnessed the mouth speaking great things, until he was slain, and his body was given to the flame, final judgment. Daniel 7:11

    The horn of Daniel 7:21 makes war with the saints and prevails against them.

    The very same horn/beast does the same in Revelation 13:7 why?

    Because the little horn of Daniel 7 and the Beast of Revelation 13 are the same future human man, that will proclaim to be God, the Antichrist of Daniel and Revelation.

    Antiochus don't fit the bill, in fulfilling the little horn of Daniel 7

    However the beast of Revelation 13:5-7 does, and the book of Revelation was written in 96AD, long after Antiochus died.

    Will you deny the fact that both accounts have great mouths, and they both make war with the saints, and prevail/overcome them?

    Jesus Christ Is Lord

    70X70

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  9. BABerean2

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    Did you take the time to watch the video in post #6 above?

    In the Book of Genesis Abraham took his son to the land of Moriah to offer as a sacrifice to God.
    It was a shadow of what God would do with His Son on Mount Moriah, found recorded in the Book of John.
    However, they are not the same event.
    The same is true in the Books of Daniel and Revelation.


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  10. Truth7t7

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    We will disagree.
     
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    The roles
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    Little horn, then
    Prince who shall come, then
    Antichrist, then
    Revealed man of Sin, then
    Beast.

    Yes, a man a literal human, but.......

    Man in Little horn, Prince who shall come, Antichrist roles.

    In the Revealed man of Sin role, temporarily entered into by Satan, just as Judas was. I don't know if that means literal, or that the person takes on Satan's mindset.

    In the Beast role, possessed by the unclean spirit currently in the bottomless pit
     
  12. BABerean2

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    You did not answer the question about the video, so I will take that as a "no".

    Bruce Gore has forgotten more about ancient history than most people will ever know.
    Not only is he a historian, but he is a Christian historian.
    He can also tell you about how John Darby's doctrine began, or SDA, or Church of Christ, etc.

    If you want to believe what Hal Lindsay and the Scofield Bible reference notes say we will disagree.


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  13. Truth7t7

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    I will believe the Holy Scripture.

    Both have Great Mouths Speaking, Both Make War With The Saints And Prevail/Overcome Them.

    Hal Lindsey Or Scofield Have Nothing To Do With These Facts Of Scripture.

    The Little Horn Of Daniel 7 And The Beast Of Revelation 13:5-7 Are The Very Same Future Antichrist.

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    We Will Disagree.
     
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    Note that Jesus Christ will physically reign on the earth during the 1,000 years of Revelation 20:2-6. For the 1,000 years of Revelation 20:2-6, a time period commonly called the Millennium, won't begin until after Jesus' (never fulfilled) Second Coming (Revelation 19:7 to 20:6), when He will physically land on the earth and rule it from Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:4-21). And because Jesus will reign physically on the earth during the Millennium, so will the physically resurrected Church. For the physically resurrected Church will reign with Jesus during the Millennium (Revelation 20:4-6). And so in Revelation 5:10, the reference to the Church reigning in the future "on the earth" includes the Millennium. Also, in Revelation 2:26-29, the reigning of the Church physically over the nations can refer to the Millennium. There is no reason to exclude the Millennium from Revelation 5:10 or Revelation 2:26-29, just as there is no reason to exclude the earth from the Millennium in Revelation 20:4-6.

    Also, the Church will reign forever on the New Earth. For the Church will reign forever in New Jerusalem (Revelation 22:5, Revelation 21:10 to 22:5), which will descend from heaven to the New Earth (Revelation 21:1-3, Revelation 21:10), sometime after the future Millennium and subsequent events (Revelation 20:7 to 21:3).

    Regarding the sheep and goat judgment, note that Matthew 25:31 doesn't mean that Matthew 25:32-46 (just as 2 Peter 3:10a doesn't mean that 2 Peter 3:10b) will happen immediately at Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming, only that it will happen sometime subsequent to His Second Coming, at the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15), after the future Millennium and subsequent events (Revelation 20:7-15).

    Matthew 25:32-46 refers to when the "nations" will be finally-judged by their works at the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:12-13), whereas at Jesus' Second Coming, He will finally-judge only those in the Church (Psalms 50:3-5, cf. Mark 13:27; Matthew 25:19-30). Also, Matthew 25:41,46 refers to when non-Christians of all times, whether Jews or Gentiles, will be sent into the everlasting suffering of the lake of fire and brimstone at the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:15), whereas at the Second Coming only the future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") and his False Prophet will be cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 19:20). The saved "sheep" at the sheep/goat judgment will include those, whether Jews or Gentiles, who will become Christians during the future Millennium (Isaiah 66:19-21). Matthew 25:34 refers to obedient Christians inheriting the Kingdom of God the Father in New Jerusalem, the Father's house, on the future, New Earth (Revelation 21:1-7, John 14:2).

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    That's right.

    Also, regarding Daniel 7, there the first 3 beasts (Daniel 7:3-6) represent the ancient empires of Babylon (lion), Medo-Persia (bear), and Greece (leopard). The 4th beast, or 4th "king"/"kingdom" (Daniel 7:17,23), represents the ancient Roman empire. And the 10 horns/kings which come out of it (Daniel 7:7,24) could represent 10 major kingdoms/nations today which came out the former territory of the Roman empire, which consisted not only of Western Europe, but also the Middle East and North Africa. These 10 nations could be Germany, the U.K., France, Italy, Spain, Turkey, Egypt, Iraq, Algeria, and Syria. The 10 part-iron/part-clay toes of Daniel 2:42 could represent the same thing as the 10 horns of Daniel 7:7. The Europeans could be the iron and the Arabs and Turks could be the clay. In Daniel 2:43, the inability of the iron to mix with the clay could represent how, for example, there are many Turks living in Germany, but they remain separated in ghettoes within German cities. Similarly, there are many Arab Algerians living in France, but they remain separated in ghettoes within French cities.

    But despite this social separation, which could endure indefinitely, the people of Western Europe on the one hand, and the people of the Middle East and North Africa on the other, could still one day put aside their political separation and become united into one federation. For Daniel 2:42 refers to the 10 as a singular "kingdom". The person who will bring this about could be the future Antichrist.

    The arising of the "little" horn (Daniel 7:8, Daniel 8:9), which is "diverse" from the 10 major nations (Daniel 7:24), could mean that the future Antichrist will arise from a little country. And the little horn arising from "among" the 10 major nations (Daniel 7:8) could mean that the Antichrist's country's territory used to be part of the Roman empire. And before that, it was part of one of the 4 Diadochian Greek kingdoms which succeeded the Greek empire of Alexander the Great (Daniel 8:8-9,21-25). The territory of these 4 kingdoms stretched from Greece over to Iran, and down into Egypt. So the Antichrist could come from the Middle East. He could be an Arab who will come from the little country of Lebanon, from the modern city of Tyre (Ezekiel 28:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:4).

    The Antichrist could start out by claiming to be a Baathist. After becoming the leader of Lebanon, he could peacefully gain control of a Baathist federation of 3 of the 10 major nations (Daniel 7:24): Egypt, "toward the south" of Lebanon (Daniel 8:9), and Iraq and Syria, "toward the east" of Lebanon (Daniel 8:9). This federation could also include the minor nation of a United Palestine, that is, a defeated Israel, "the pleasant land" (Daniel 8:9).

    This Baathist federation could be put together in our future by an Iraqi Baathist General who could completely defeat and occupy Israel and Egypt with a huge Iraqi Army (Daniel 11:15-17; in verse 17 the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath"), but who could then mysteriously disappear (Daniel 11:19) shortly before the Antichrist arises on the world stage (Daniel 11:21-45). Years later, when the Antichrist gains control of all 10 of the major nations, he could appoint kings over them (Revelation 17:12) who will defer to him (Revelation 17:13), like how when Napoleon gained control of different nations, he appointed kings over them who would defer to him.
     
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    That's right.

    For regarding the "abomination of desolation", Daniel 11:31 was typically fulfilled by the abomination of desolation in 1 Maccabees 1:54, which occurred in the holy place (the inner sanctum) of the 2nd Jewish temple in Jerusalem in the time of Antiochus IV Epiphanes. But per Jesus Christ's statement in Matthew 24:15, the Church will see the abomination of desolation in Daniel 11:31 fulfilled (antitypically) in the future when the Church will see the abomination of desolation stand in the holy place (of a 3rd Jewish temple in Jerusalem). This future abomination of desolation could be a standing, android image of the Antichrist (Revelation 13:15) which his followers ("they") will put in the holy place of the temple (Daniel 11:31) to be worshipped (Revelation 13:15), after they have stopped the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices which the ultra-Orthodox Jews will have restarted in front of the temple (Daniel 11:31). This image will pollute the holy place of the temple (Daniel 11:31).

    The Antichrist will then fulfill Daniel 11:36 and 2 Thessalonians 2:4 by sitting himself (at least one time) in the temple and proclaiming himself God. By the power of Satan (the dragon, Revelation 12:9), the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") will then rule and be worshipped by all the nations of the earth for 3.5 literal years (Revelation 13:4-18), and will physically overcome Biblical Christians (not in hiding) in every nation (Revelation 13:7-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4-6, Matthew 24:9-13).

    Also, from the day on which (antitypically) "the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be 1,290 days. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the 1,335 days" (Daniel 12:11-12, Revelation 16:15). Also, because the Antichrist will fulfill Daniel 11:31 antitypically (Matthew 24:15), and will fulfill Daniel 11:36 for the 1st and only time (2 Thessalonians 2:4), he will also fulfill all of Daniel 11:21-45 (the 1st part antitypically, and the rest for the 1st and only time) when he arises on the world stage. For that passage refers to the career of the same man. And since the Antichrist will fulfill all of Daniel 11:21-45 when he arises on the world stage, then just preceding his arising on the world stage, Daniel 11:13-19 could be fulfilled antitypically by a future, Iraqi Baathist General (the Antichrist's precursor) who will defeat and occupy Israel and Egypt with a huge Iraqi Army (Daniel 11:15-17; in verse 17 the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath").
     
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    There is no future 1000 year kingdom on this earth as you claim in error.

    Jesus returns in the final judgment, eternal life, eternal kingdom.

    Matthew 25:31-46

    Verse 31-32 Jesus returns, nations gathered for judgment.

    Verse 34 The eternal kingdom presented to the righteous.

    Verse 41 The wicked judged to the eternal lake of fire.

    Verse 46 The righteous obtain eternal life, and enter the eternal kingdom in verse 34

    No you ain't gonna sell me a 1000 year kingdom, Verse 46 clearly teaches?

    "ETERNAL LIFE"!

    There is no 1000 year kingdom on earth when Jesus returns.

    "Eternity Begins"

    P.S. Matthew 25:31-46 Is The Great White Throne Judgment, A Parallel Teaching Of Revelation 20:11-15.

    The Only Time Eternal Judgment To Eternal Life And Eternal Damnation Takes Place, Is When The Book Of Life Is Open.

    Yes Matthew 25:31-46 Is This Final, Eternal, Judgment.

    Sorry To Ruin Your Future Kingdom On Earth.
     
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  17. Douggg

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    BAB2, I watched the video, and it was a good account of historical parts of Daniel 11 to the end of the maccabees. But there was not connection made of the Antiochus being the little horn in the video.

    The little horn and the vision of the transgression of desolation in the text of Daniel 8 is time of the end - which Antiochus is not time of the end.

    I don't understand why you showed the video in regards to claiming that Antiohcus was the little horn, because the video was not about the end times.
     
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    Dan 8:1 In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first.
    Dan 8:2 And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai.
    Dan 8:3 Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last.
    Dan 8:4 I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.
    Dan 8:5 And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
    Dan 8:6 And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.
    Dan 8:7 And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.
    Dan 8:8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
    Dan 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
    Dan 8:10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
    Dan 8:11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
    Dan 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
    Dan 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
    Dan 8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

    Dan 8:15 And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.

    Dan 8:16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.

    Dan 8:17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

    Dan 8:18 Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.

    Dan 8:19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.
    (This is a reference to the time of the end of this vision. It would also be the end of the temple priests who were direct descendants of Aaron. Therefore, it was the end of the Levite priesthood who were the only priests who could offer temple sacrifices under the Sinai Covenant.)

    Dan 8:20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. (These kings preceeded Alexander the Great as rulers of the middle east. Persia is a reference to the Babylonian empire, to which Daniel had been taken captive.)

    Dan 8:21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king. (This is Alexander the Great of Greece.)

    Dan 8:22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power. (When Alexander died his kingdom was divided up among four of his generals, but they would be much weaker than Alexander's kingdom.)

    Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. (Antiochus Epiphanes came out of one of the four, which would be at the end of this vision.)

    Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
    (Antiochus killed thousands of Jews during his reign of terror. He also appointed temple priests who were not descendants of Aaron. In doing this he perverted the Old Covenant system of sacrifices.)

    Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. (Antiochus was a master manipulator, who stood against the people of God. Not only did he set up a statue in the temple and have a pig slaughtered on the altar, but he also stopped the sacrifices for about three years and forbid that children be circumcised. Antiochus was not killed with human hands. He died of disease. After his army was defeated the temple was cleansed and rededicated, and thus the celebration of Hanukkah found in John 10:22.)

    Dan 8:26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.

    Dan 8:27 And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.


    If you are going to apply this to a future antichrist you will have to make sure he comes after the Persians conquer the middle east again, and then after that the Greeks conquer the middle east again under one strong man, like Alexander the Great, and then when he dies his kingdom will be divided into four kingdoms, and then your "little horn" antichrist will have to come out of one of those four...

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  19. Douggg

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    BAB2, you didn't highlight this one. This is the verse that says the vision of the transgression of desolation is for the end times.

    Dan 8:17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.


    You have misunderstood the verses - partially.

    Daniel 8:20-22 are what to us are historic all the way to the historic four break up kingdoms. the end result of Alexander's kingdom, in verse 22. Those prophecies are now history - over.

    In verse 23, it jumps to the end times and is the end times kingdom of the ten kings in Daniel 7. "Their" kingdom.

    That kingdom is the EU. In the latter time of the EU, when the transgressors have come to a full - that is, the ten kings are in place, a king of fierce countenance will stand up. That king is the little horn.

    Stand up is an idiom for meaning he prepares to go to war. He heads south and east into the middle east with a strong army. He is then the prince who shall come in Daniel 9:26b.
     
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    Note that there are at least eight Biblical reasons to read the 1,000 years (the Millennium) of Revelation 20:2-6 as not beginning until after Jesus Christ's (still unfulfilled) Second Coming in Revelation 19:7-21.

    First, this is in accord with how the rest of Revelation chapters 6 to 22 are in chronological order, insofar as the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 will begin with the events of the second through sixth seals, occurring in the order shown in Revelation 6:3-14. After the events of the sixth seal, Revelation 7 will occur. Then the seventh seal will be unsealed, and out of it will come the Tribulation's seven trumpets (Revelation 8:1-6). Then the events of the first six trumpets in Revelation 8:7 to Revelation 9:21 will occur in the order shown there. Then Revelation 10 will occur. Then the literal 3.5 years of the future Antichrist's worldwide reign will occur, which time period is shown from four different angles in Revelation chapters 11 to 14 (Revelation 11:2b-3, Revelation 12:6,14, Revelation 13:5,7, Revelation 14:9-13).

    Then the seventh trumpet will sound, announcing the legal end of the future Antichrist's reign (Revelation 11:15). Out of the seventh trumpet's heavenly-temple opening will come the seven plagues of the seven vials (Revelation 11:19, Revelation 15:5 to 16:1), the Tribulation's final stage. Then the events of the seven vials will occur in the order shown in Revelation 16. Jesus Christ's Second Coming will occur right after the seventh-and-last vial (Revelation 16:17,19, Revelation 19:2-21), and He will rapture and marry the Church at that time (Revelation 19:7). Then He will completely defeat the world's armies (Revelation 19:11 to 20:3), and reign on the earth with the physically resurrected Church for 1,000 years (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29; 1 Corinthians 15:51-53). Then the events of Revelation 20:7 to Revelation 22:5 will occur in the order shown there.

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    Second, the 1,000 years in Revelation 20:2-6 are when Satan will be literally bound with a chain, and cast into and locked within the literal Bottomless Pit, whereas currently he is walking about freely on the earth seeking whom he may devour (1 Peter 5:8). So the 1,000 years can't have started yet. But their beginning after Jesus' Second Coming makes perfect sense (Revelation 19:7 to 20:6).

    Third, during the 1,000 years, Satan will not be able to deceive the world (Revelation 20:3), whereas currently he is able to deceive the world (2 Corinthians 4:4; 2 Corinthians 11:3,14-15; 2 Thessalonians 2:9-10, Revelation 12:9, Revelation 13:14, Revelation 19:20, Revelation 20:10). So the 1,000 years can't have started yet.

    Fourth, the defeat of Satan in Revelation 20:1-3 is in chronological accord with the immediately preceding defeat of the future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast"), and his False Prophet, and the unsaved armies of the world, at Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming (Revelation 19:19-21). Indeed, there is no chapter break between Revelation 19 and Revelation 20 in the original Greek manuscripts. So Revelation 19:19 to 20:3 can be taken together as a unit, showing how every power of evil on the earth will be defeated at Jesus' Second Coming.

    Fifth, reading Revelation 20:4-6 as Jesus Christ and the bodily resurrected Church reigning first on the present earth (not the New Earth) after His future, Second Coming (Revelation 19:7 to 20:6) matches Jesus reigning first on the present earth (not the New Earth) after His Second Coming in Zechariah 14:3-21. For Zechariah 14:8-21 cannot be referring to the New Earth (of Revelation 21:1-3), because Zechariah 14:8-21 refers to a temple building in Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:20-21), whereas there will be no temple building in New Jerusalem on the New Earth (Revelation 21:22). Also, Zechariah 14:8-21 cannot be referring to the New Earth, because it refers to surviving non-Christians from the present earth being forced to come up to worship the returned Jesus in Jerusalem during the Millennium (Zechariah 14:16-19), whereas by the time of the New Earth, all non-Christians from the present earth will have been cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:15 to 21:8).

    Sixth, reading the "first resurrection" in Revelation 20:4-6 as the physical resurrection of the Church at Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming (Revelation 19:7 to 20:6) matches other verses which show that the physical resurrection of the Church will occur at the Second Coming (1 Corinthians 15:21-23,51-54; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-16).

    Seventh, reading the "first resurrection" in Revelation 20:4-6 as the physical resurrection of the Church at Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming is in line with Revelation 20:5, which must refer in its entirety only to physical resurrection. For not every dead person is going to be figuratively resurrected in the sense of becoming saved (Revelation 20:15). And Revelation 20:5 means that the rest of the dead (that is, all of the non-Church dead of all times) will be resurrected in the same manner that the Church will be resurrected in Revelation 20:4-6, but the rest of the dead will not be resurrected until sometime after the 1,000 years.

    Eighth, reading the "first resurrection" in Revelation 20:4-6 as the physical resurrection of the Church at Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming is in line with Revelation 20:4, which shows that the people in the first resurrection will include those in the Church who will have been beheaded by the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") for not worshipping him or his image, or receiving his mark on their hand or forehead. This refers back to the details of Revelation 13:4-18, which have never been fulfilled. So the first resurrection cannot have happened yet. But its occurring at Jesus' Second Coming, when He will defeat the Antichrist, makes perfect sense (Revelation 19:20 to 20:6; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-9).
     
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