Will Racism End When Old Bigots Die?

[SummerMadness]

Someone ought to tell them that, because on their page right now it says this:

This Ministry bears responsibility for assisting the individual member of the community in the process of heeding truth and right guidance. Respect, honor and obedience to the Authority of the Creator in all aspects of life are essential to peace, harmony, freedom, justice and equality. In the words of the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan: “…Self-development is an absolutely essential component of this microcosm of the new world. It is not enough that we grow horizontally through the acquisition of farms, factories, banks, industry, trade, commerce, money, good homes…horizontal growth alone is death. All dead things are on a horizontal level. Therefore, we must grow vertically: grow in uprightness, or we will be overcome by our horizontal growth.” The foundation of this ministry are study and training units, “…designed on the Guidance of Allah(God) to produce: self-examination; self-analysis; self-correction and to quicken in each of us, the self-accusing Spirit. For it is only when we are awakened morally that we have to face the self-accusing spirit that leads to our resurrection.” (see, Letter of Introduction : Self-Improvement: the Basis for Community Development, December 12, 1986.)

The Ministries - NOI.org Official Website

From the Southern Poverty Law Center:

Since its founding in 1930, the Nation of Islam (NOI) has grown into one of the wealthiest and best-known organizations in black America, offering numerous programs and events designed to uplift African Americans. Nonetheless, its bizarre theology of innate black superiority over whites — a belief system vehemently and consistently rejected by mainstream Muslims — and the deeply racist, anti-Semitic and anti-gay rhetoric of its leaders, including top minister Louis Farrakhan, have earned the NOI a prominent position in the ranks of organized hate.​

It's well understood by most that the Nation of Islam is not Islam, much like Christian Identity is not Christianity.

 

[Landon Caeli]

There is more to racism than equal legal rights.

Such as..?

 

[MWood]

Will Racism End When Old Bigots Die?

No, racism will never end. We can all see it in the teens and pre-teens even today of all races.
When God destroyed the tower of Babble, the confounding of the tongues caused a suspicion and dislike of all of those that couldn't be understood. This will never change until we are all one in the Body of Christ.

 

[hislegacy]

It's well understood by most that the Nation of Islam is not Islam, much like Christian Identity is not Christianity.

Ok, so the are like the Islamic state. They quote the Quran, recognize Allah as their God and Mohammed as their prophet but of course they are not islamic

Gotcha

They are however racist.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Someone ought to tell them that, because on their page right now it says this:

This Ministry bears responsibility for assisting the individual member of the community in the process of heeding truth and right guidance. Respect, honor and obedience to the Authority of the Creator in all aspects of life are essential to peace, harmony, freedom, justice and equality. In the words of the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan: “…Self-development is an absolutely essential component of this microcosm of the new world. It is not enough that we grow horizontally through the acquisition of farms, factories, banks, industry, trade, commerce, money, good homes…horizontal growth alone is death. All dead things are on a horizontal level. Therefore, we must grow vertically: grow in uprightness, or we will be overcome by our horizontal growth.” The foundation of this ministry are study and training units, “…designed on the Guidance of Allah(God) to produce: self-examination; self-analysis; self-correction and to quicken in each of us, the self-accusing Spirit. For it is only when we are awakened morally that we have to face the self-accusing spirit that leads to our resurrection.” (see, Letter of Introduction : Self-Improvement: the Basis for Community Development, December 12, 1986.)

The Ministries - NOI.org Official Website

From the Southern Poverty Law Center:

Since its founding in 1930, the Nation of Islam (NOI) has grown into one of the wealthiest and best-known organizations in black America, offering numerous programs and events designed to uplift African Americans. Nonetheless, its bizarre theology of innate black superiority over whites — a belief system vehemently and consistently rejected by mainstream Muslims — and the deeply racist, anti-Semitic and anti-gay rhetoric of its leaders, including top minister Louis Farrakhan, have earned the NOI a prominent position in the ranks of organized hate.​

Sounds like indoctrination.

 

[SummerMadness]

Ok, so the are like the Islamic state. They quote the Quran, recognize Allah as their God and Mohammed as their prophet but of course they are not islamic

Gotcha

They are however racist.

Just like Christian Identity and Kingdom Identity Ministries quotes the Bible and professes to be Christians. Did anyone claim they were not a hate group?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Indoctrination or "thought reform" seems to be the goal of both the Nation of Islam and the modern race "confrontation".

Indoctrination - Wikipedia

...But at least I give credit to the NOI for stating their goals -something the other cannot describe.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Just curious, but there are equal legal rights now regarding race. So what is the goal of this confrontation?

Such as..?

BUMP

 

[Subduction Zone]

Just like Christian Identity and Kingdom Identity Ministries quotes the Bible and professes to be Christians. Did anyone claim they were not a hate group?

No doubt about it. As to the topic of the thread, old bigots are continually replaced by young bigots. Even though you will hear that the end of "races" in America is "white genocide" or even "black genocide" in regards to this concept but; racism will not end until the races blend.

 

[thecolorsblend]

Right, setting up the question with statements about prison demographics is simply asking a question. Sure.

The sentence ended with not one, not two but three question marks so I'm pretty sure it was a question.

Now that you've wasted so much time with it, would you care to finally answer the question?

 

[BubbaJack]

Will Racism End When Old Bigots Die?

Since the term "racism" has been stretched to encompass just about anything (http://everythingisracism.com/), and people can be accused of it for whatever reason seems expedient at the time, it shouldn't be expected that it will disappear any time soon.

No putting that toothpaste back in the tube.

 

[RDKirk]

No doubt about it. As to the topic of the thread, old bigots are continually replaced by young bigots. Even though you will hear that the end of "races" in America is "white genocide" or even "black genocide" in regards to this concept but; racism will not end until the races blend.

It may seem like that to someone who doesn't remember the 50s, but it's not like that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It may seem like that to someone who doesn't remember the 50s, but it's not like that.

There is no doubt that the country is less racist than it used to be but that does not mean that the U.S. is perfect. My point was that as long as there are significant groups of any "race" there will be racism by some individuals.

 

[RDKirk]

There is no doubt that the country is less racist than it used to be but that does not mean that the U.S. is perfect. My point was that as long as there are significant groups of any "race" there will be racism by some individuals.

At a certain point, "racism by some individuals" can be considered socially negligible.

 

[bhsmte]

There is no doubt that the country is less racist than it used to be but that does not mean that the U.S. is perfect. My point was that as long as there are significant groups of any "race" there will be racism by some individuals.

Agree. In the world today, people can be ruined by even the hint that they are racist, if they are in any position of responsibility. Racism towards certain races is much better today that it was decades ago and that is a good thing. To me, it is important to use productive means to identify racism going forward and call it out for what the EVIDENCE shows, in each situation and avoid broad brushing and using the allegation of racism (without evidence), as a weapon.

 

[super animator]

Agree. In the world today, people can be ruined by even the hint that they are racist, if they are in any position of responsibility. Racism towards certain races is much better today that it was decades ago and that is a good thing. To me, it is important to use productive means to identify racism going forward and call it out for what the EVIDENCE shows, in each situation and avoid broad brushing and using the allegation of racism (without evidence), as a weapon.

Boy cry wolf story is more relevant now.

 

[bhsmte]

Boy cry wolf story is more relevant now.

Yes. It is one way for some to capitalize on something that is quite socially acceptable; allege racism without direct evidence to support the allegation. The media eats it up, because it sells.

 

[super animator]

Yes. It is one way for some to capitalize on something that is quite socially acceptable; allege racism without direct evidence to support the allegation. The media eats it up, because it sells.

Which is more of a reason why people such as you and me should call out their nonsense.

 

[RDKirk]

Yes. It is one way for some to capitalize on something that is quite socially acceptable; allege racism without direct evidence to support the allegation. The media eats it up, because it sells.

I'd point out that Boomers control the media. Also Boomers control politics.

 

[bhsmte]

I'd point out that Boomers control the media. Also Boomers control politics.

And to stay in control and power, they must adapt to what is most socially acceptable and what sells. If you don't, you lose power and control.