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Wild Bison Are Returning to England’s Forests For First Time in 6,000 Years

Discussion in 'Physical & Life Sciences' started by Michie, Jul 12, 2020.

  1. Michie

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    A relative of the iconic beast that roams the American Great Plains is going to be released in an ancient forest in Kent, England—where they haven’t resided for 6,000 years.

    But the four animals won’t be arriving by way of South Dakota or Wyoming because Europe has their own subspecies—the European wood bison.

    The project is slated to begin in Spring of 2022, when a single male Bison bonasus and three females arriving from Poland and the Netherlands will be allowed to roam and reproduce naturally in the remaining wilds of Britain—and it is hoped that their presence will ignite a chain reaction throughout the forest.

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  2. FrumiousBandersnatch

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    That's great news - I often go walking in Blean Woods, so it will be interesting to see bison there...
     
  3. public hermit

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    That is so cool.
     
  4. Lost4words

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    My ancestors used to herd them!
     
  5. FrumiousBandersnatch

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    Please don't.
     
  6. Warden_of_the_Storm

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    This sort of thing has the potential to create something amazing... or do horrendous things to the ecology of that area of Britain.
    Britain has not had large grazing animals such as the bison for 6,000 years. There really is no telling what the effect would be.

    ... although imagine the size of the steaks...
     
  7. Warden_of_the_Storm

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    A big cow. Like... huge. Big horns too.
    And there's a fair bit of debate on when they went extinct in Britain: some people say Bronze age, some say Iron Age, some say as early as 3000 years ago, some say as late as 1500 BC.

    BUT, my main point is: Britain and the British ecosystem has not had a significant number of large terrestrial grazing herbivores for a long time, so we have no real clue to what effect they could have if allowed to roam free in England (maybe they trample a politician or two, who knows).

    I know that bison (or buffalo) are being reared in Wales, but that's as livestock, not wild animals.
     
  8. Warden_of_the_Storm

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    For some reason, a lot of people are hellbent on reintroducing animals that went extinct in an area for... reasons.
     
  9. Warden_of_the_Storm

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    Jurassic Park is a prime, though fictional example, of why we shouldn't bring back extinct animals. We have ZERO clue of how they'd react to the modern world and they likely would get violent.
    The cattle thing is definitely something I can agree with, and I have a hope that we at least put in some lessons that the Poles learnt when dealing with their bison to minimize harmful contact between the bison and human populations.
     
  10. Radagast

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    It's the wild animal from which the cow was domesticated.

    The key words there are "wild animal."
     
  11. Radagast

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    "Why?" I ask myself.
     
  12. Radagast

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    Own species, since Bison bonasus is a species.
     
  13. Hans Blaster

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    Probably so they could survive in the wild and be restored to some auroch appropriate ecosystem. (THought I read that somewhere years go.) Domestic cows are docile and dumb.
     
  14. Radagast

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    Why?

    And what does that mean, in a densely populated country like Germany?

    Yes, and even then they sometimes kill people.

    Imagine them more aggressive and with larger horns.

    Now imagine them wandering into farmland and interacting with human beings.
     
  15. Hans Blaster

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    I don't think Aurochs are native to Germany. Perhaps they were thinking about repopulating the south Asian Steppe. I don't know. I'm just speculating.
     
  16. Radagast

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    Native to all of Europe, plus more. The name "ūrochse" is German.

    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Hans Blaster

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    [JohnnyCarson] I did not know that [/JohnnyCarson]
     
  18. Hans Blaster

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    Allrighty then. I did not-see that coming.

    This thread had taken an odd turn.
     
  19. Radagast

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    Well, the aurochs breeding started before Hitler, in the 1920s, but Lutz Heck was indeed a Nazi and a buddy of Hermann Göring: Lutz Heck - Wikipedia

    Edit: I was wrong about Hitler. Apparently he led the Nazis from 1921.
     
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  20. Warden_of_the_Storm

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    Oh, it's definitely not national pride that is the reason for Britain doing this.
     
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