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Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath? (2)

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by BrightCandle, Apr 12, 2006.

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  1. linssue55

    linssue55 Senior Veteran

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    I understand what you are saying. I have been taught........
    [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2][/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2]Col. 2:16-17~~[/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2]16.~~Consequently, [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2]STOP allowing anyone to judge you in eating and drinking, [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2]or in the matter of a feast, or of the new month, or of the Sabbaths.[/FONT]

    People judging others for not believing in the Sabbath as the verse above states. I do see Sunday as the day of rest, but many times I have worked on that day which is fine with the Lord. And if people really wanted to get sticky about the sabbath, originally it was on a Saturday.

    My church practices that we give worship EVERYDAY. The Lord gives us one day at a time, therefore we are to give back one day at a time through worship, so we have services everyday. Everything else pertaining to the sabbath does not apply to us in the church age, especially since we are gentiles (was originally set up only for the Jews of the OT) in the church age.

    I worship the Lord everyday, I listen to the pastor's teachings on the internet from my church everyday, have for over 30 years. I just wish people would not put their own personal oppinions on the word of God, and tell everybody this is what the Lord say's when it is not true. But really it is none of my business what others do (privacy of the priesthood) the Lord know's and He will discipline them for apostating His word.

    Have a nice day and keep an RMA. ​
     
  2. linssue55

    linssue55 Senior Veteran

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    Nope, you are wrong! We all have the privacy of the priesthood, I will continue to believe my way and you have the right to believe your's. Have a nice day.
     
  3. linssue55

    linssue55 Senior Veteran

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    I judge no one, THAT is the Lord's job. I am taught to worship EVERYDAY. Since the Lord gives us one day at a time, we are to give back one day at a time. My church has services everyday, and I have practiced this for over 30 years. Most christains would NOT do this, for I guess they believe the Lord is only entitled to get their worship one day a week. THIS is the problem with the sabbath, and the Lord know's this, and will keep account of those that do not give back "One day at a time". Have a nice day........God Bless you and your's.
     
  4. Wavy

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    Care to point out my error? And it's not about who's way we believe. It's about what is right (whether or not you or me are correct).
     
  5. Wavy

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    And yet you continue to argue off of the premise of error. There is no problem with the sabbath (Psalm 19:7-11).

    Your "one day at a time" argument is getting old and centers around your opinion and/or feelings rather than the truth (John 17:17).

    Simply put, the sabbath does not mean you can't worship on other days or do good on other days etc. This is the fallacy of your argument and the straw man you have built up in front of all who believe they should keep the sabbath.
     
  6. ThreeAM

    ThreeAM Well-Known Member

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    Well said :thumbsup:
     
  7. ThreeAM

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    The bible should be looked at as a whole not choped up and compartmentalized. Frankly Darby had no clue at how to understand the scriptures. Notice that nobody really taught dispensaionalism prior to Darby. Dispenasationalism and futurism are two great errors taught by Darby. :(
     
  8. linssue55

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    Nope! Not interested in the least.......your negative volition is apparent enough for me to move on. I do not believe in beating a dead horse, and like I have said, what ANYONE believes in none of my business, this includes you. Life is too short, and I have a bible lesson to listen to, my time of worship. Good bye.
     
  9. linssue55

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    Who in the heck is Darby? Don't answer that I could care less.

    Wrong! If you are at all familar with the OT, the "word" talked of dispensations wayyyy back then. I am sure you won't agree with this either, but here it is anyway.

    Dispensations.......


    Biblical history of mankind.....


    1...Pre-Deluveon civilization......from Adam and Eve to the flood....Gen. 1-11
    adam to Noah......fall, flood, Babel


    2...Post Deluveon civilization.......
    A...First half (Promise) Jewish age-Gen.12 thru Ex. 19, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob.....Abrahamic Covenent.....
    B...Second half.....Ex. 19 thru Malachi Gospels (-jn 13-17)....Moses....Law of Moses


    3...The church age....(NOW) ....grace, Mystery Doctrine (present time).....Acts 2 thru Rev 5 Epistles.....Paul, Peter, John......Giving of Holy Spirit..1 Cor 6:19-20, Matt 3:11, John 14:17, Rom 5:5, Gal 3:2.


    4...Rapture.....in a moment of time 1 Thes 4:13-18...saints with Christ in heaven, ie: the Bride....called up in the air to be with Him


    5...Trial and tribulation....7 years..Rev 6-19....Anti-Christ......144,000 true believer Jews witnesses.
    A...First 31/2 yrs. ....Religous Power....Political Power, 1-beast, 2-beast, beast makes false covenent with Israel...Isa 28:15-18........
    B...Second 31/2 yrs..... political Power...Man of Sin (Satan) DEMANDS Worship ..2 Thes 2.....Israel Flees to mountains...matt 24:15-16.......Satan Cast out of Heaven....Rev 12:9.....Battle of Armageddon....the blood will run Bridle deep to horse......(Abomination of Desolation, ie. =Armageddon....2nd Advent Rev 14:11-15)


    6...The Millenium...Christ (Kingdom) Rev 20... Perfect Environment..1000 yrs.
    No more wars...no more poor...
    At the end of Millenium...Satan is released from H-ell for a short period (months?)...Battle of GOG & Magog


    7...Eternity Begins.....New Heaven and New Earth ....Great White Throne Judgement..... And Eternal H-ell.
    Believers in etenity with Christ for Forever......

    Un-believers with Satan in H-ell for Forever......
     
  10. ThreeAM

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    You don't know who Darby is yet you support dispensationalism???? amazing :eek:


    Dispensationalism as it is known today was generally UNKNOWN prior to Darby.

    This is from www.wikipedia.org

    Darby is noted in the theological world as the father of "dispensationalism," later made popular in the United States by Cyrus Scofield's Scofield Reference Bible. He originated the "secret rapture" theory wherein Christ will snatch away his true believers from this world without warning. Dispensationalist beliefs about the fate of the Jews and the re-establishment of the Kingdom of Israel put dispensationalists at the forefront of Christian Zionism.......

    .....Born out of the restless religious environment in England and Ireland in the 1820s, dispensationalism is rooted in the Plymouth Brethren movement, especially the teachings of John Nelson Darby (1800–1882). Darby built on a number of themes that were common among the more radical Calvinists in the Evangelical movement of the early 19th century, but he elaborated a more complex and complete system for interpreting the Bible than previous writers.
    The Plymouth Brethren movement, essentially a reaction against the established Church of England and its ecclesiology, became known for its anti-denominational, anti-clerical, and anti-creedal stance. In 1848, the Plymouth Brethren split into an "Exclusive" group led by Darby and an "Open" group. Darby's views became dominant among the Exclusive Brethren, but were not widespread among Open Brethren until the 1870s or 1880s.
     
  11. woobadooba

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    I am amazed that this thread is still going! I wonder how many times Chrisbot will appear in it. LOL.
     
  12. Cliff2

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    Same here, I am amazed that it still keeps on going.

    It seems that we are no closer to a solution than when it first started over 1,000 posts ago.

    No one can come up with am answer to the problem.
     
  13. jochanaan

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    The answer is staring us in the face. It's just hard for some to accept.
     
  14. Cliff2

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    Correct!
     
  15. BrightCandle

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    Oblio,

    Sounds like you are wanting to keep the 7th day holy! Praise the Lord!
     
  16. BrightCandle

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    Genesis 2, explodes the myth that the Sabbath was made only for the Jews.

    Fact #1, there were no Jews in the Garden of Eden, when the first Sabbath was keep by Adam and Eve.

    Fact #2, the weekly 7th day Sabbath was created before mankind sinned, therefore it is not a shadow of anything to come, as were the ceremonial laws and the sacrificial system that were given to Moses.

    Fact #3, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit rested on the Sabbath, along with the first human beings, Adam and Eve, according to Genesis 2.

    In light of these facts do you still want to work on the Sabbath, when God said to rest on His holy day?

    The Seventh Day, God Rests

    1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done. 3So God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it God rested from all his work that he had done in creation.
     
  17. Cliff2

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    Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

    M A N does not say J E W .
     
  18. BrightCandle

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    It does say something very profound, in that the Sabbath seems to generate more interest than any other topics found on CF.
     
  19. Yusuf Evans

    Yusuf Evans Well-Known Member

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    I honestly can't believe this thread is ongoing. Okay, here's a couple of questions for the SDA individuals who feel we are heretical for not going on Saturday to church:

    1) What are you doing to further your ministry? How do you help your church out? Are you in a leadership position?

    2) Have you ever lusted? Ever stolen anything? Ever lied? Been jealous? Missed one day of church? Ever cursed? Ever used the Lord's name in vain?

    3) If you have never done one of those things, then you are lying. Therefore, to try and judge those of us who do not attend church on Saturday that we should not follow the Commandments is ridiculous.
     
  20. ThreeAM

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    We are trying to inform you not judge you. Judgement is between you and God.


     
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