Why We Can't Trust What Obama Says About His Religion

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This whole thing is a non-issue. why dont we focus on real and existing threats such as the economy, and libya.

This whole thread is one big gap in logic and rationality.

And don't worry, Pennmark, I'm sure we'll have time afterwards to thwart evil Obama's muslim agenda to destroy christians.
 
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"why dont we focus on real and existing threats such as the economy, and libya."

"I'm sure we'll have time afterwards to thwart evil Obama's muslim agenda to destroy christians."

YouTube - Barack Obama is a Muslim, says Libya's Qadhafi..lol

CAIRO: Calling [Baraq Hussein Obama] as "our son", Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi sent a message to the US [Pres--ent] defending his decision to attack the rebels fighting to overthrow him.

Defending his decision to attack rebel cities, Gaddafi told Obama, "Al-Qaida is an armed organisation, passing through Algeria, Mauritania and Mali. What would you do if you found them controlling American cities with the power of weapons? What would you do, so I can follow your example."

'To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on rebels - The Times of India
 
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"why dont we focus on real and existing threats such as the economy, and libya."

"I'm sure we'll have time afterwards to thwart evil Obama's muslim agenda to destroy christians."

YouTube - Barack Obama is a Muslim, says Libya's Qadhafi..lol





'To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on rebels - The Times of India

Yes Obama is a muslim and he is working with Osama Bin Laden to overthrow the Gaddafi regime. They have accomplished turning people against Gaddafi by poisoning the coffee of the youth with hallucinogens. Gaddafi is a strong supporter of liberty and we must stop Obama's evil plans to spread terror across the Mideast!:p
 
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I don't trust what ANYONE says about their religion. It's fluid and subject to change depending on the current mindset of the individual, new things they learn, new influences, or things that are "revealed" to them either indirectly or directly by god himself.

I never trust a religious person.
 
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When/where did Muhammed say such a thing?

I can't remember the exact Koranic passage, but he said something that closely approximates: "If anyone leaves their Islamic faith, kill them".

If you think about it, it is pure slavery. If you are born something, and not allowed to change, you are a slave. :thumbsup:
 
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"Still" allowed to?

Yeah, girls are still allowed to laugh for now.

After the Muslims finally do establish their prophesied world caliphate, however, things are going to change.

I would like to encourage all of the female followers of this thread to enjoy their humanity while they still can. Oh, I'm sure you'll be able to survive and have some sort of life after the change in management, but ... Well, lets just say you won't exactly be human! ;)
 
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I don't trust what ANYONE says about their religion. It's fluid and subject to change depending on the current mindset of the individual, new things they learn, new influences, or things that are "revealed" to them either indirectly or directly by god himself.

I never trust a religious person.

The thing about Al-taqiyyah, though, is that someone could appear to be totally irreligous, and yet be absolutely koo-koo for Muhammed. :cool:
 
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What does his religion have to do with his ability to carry out his elected duties? We're supposed to have a secular government. Even so, Obama says he's a Christian. Nobody knows his heart, so you're left with taking him at face value. Why not?

Seriously- I think the President could state something as simple as the earth orbits the sun- and someone would call him a liar and say that he actually thinks the sun orbits the earth.

Obama: I'm a Christian
Sore loser: He's a liar. He's a Muslim.
Obama: I was born in Hawaii.
Sore loser: He's a liar. He was born in Kenya.
Obama: I identify as African-American.
Sore loser: He's a liar. His mom is white and he should identify the way I say he should.
 
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Yeah, girls are still allowed to laugh for now.

After the Muslims finally do establish their prophesied world caliphate, however, things are going to change.

I would like to encourage all of the female followers of this thread to enjoy their humanity while they still can. Oh, I'm sure you'll be able to survive and have some sort of life after the change in management, but ... Well, lets just say you won't exactly be human! ;)


Wow! You should do a comedy routine. Are you afraid of other impossible scenarios? Do you warry about being abducted by a family of Yeti's? Does Elvis visit you when he is not hiding in your neighbors closet? ^_^
 
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What does his religion have to do with his ability to carry out his elected duties? We're supposed to have a secular government. Even so, Obama says he's a Christian. Nobody knows his heart, so you're left with taking him at face value. Why not?

Seriously- I think the President could state something as simple as the earth orbits the sun- and someone would call him a liar and say that he actually thinks the sun orbits the earth.

Obama: I'm a Christian
Sore loser: He's a liar. He's a Muslim.
Obama: I was born in Hawaii.
Sore loser: He's a liar. He was born in Kenya.
Obama: I identify as African-American.
Sore loser: He's a liar. His mom is white and he should identify the way I say he should.

Maybe you should re-read my letter. Thanks to the enlightened teachings of Muhammed, Islam enslaves people at birth.

Islam poses a problem for our secular government. It's not just a religion, it's also a political movement. A political movement that is anti-freedom. You can say this because: A. Muhammed was a king. B. His followers were soldiers. C. Islam endorses constant war to expand territory, with a world caliphate as the ultimate objective. And D. It provides a legal system, sharia, which is supposed to usurp all other legal systems.:bow:
 
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Wow! You should do a comedy routine. Are you afraid of other impossible scenarios? Do you warry about being abducted by a family of Yeti's? Does Elvis visit you when he is not hiding in your neighbors closet? ^_^

I think he is a comedy routine...per below.

Maybe you should re-read my letter. Thanks to the enlightened teachings of Muhammed, Islam enslaves people at birth.

Islam poses a problem for our secular government. It's not just a religion, it's also a political movement. A political movement that is anti-freedom. You can say this because: A. Muhammed was a king. B. His followers were soldiers. C. Islam endorses constant war to expand territory, with a world caliphate as the ultimate objective. And D. It provides a legal system, sharia, which is supposed to usurp all other legal systems.
 
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Maybe you should re-read my letter. Thanks to the enlightened teachings of Muhammed, Islam enslaves people at birth.

Islam poses a problem for our secular government. It's not just a religion, it's also a political movement. A political movement that is anti-freedom. You can say this because: A. Muhammed was a king. B. His followers were soldiers. C. Islam endorses constant war to expand territory, with a world caliphate as the ultimate objective. And D. It provides a legal system, sharia, which is supposed to usurp all other legal systems.:bow:
Watch it, you might offend liberals by stating facts.
 
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What does his religion have to do with his ability to carry out his elected duties? We're supposed to have a secular government. Even so, Obama says he's a Christian. Nobody knows his heart, so you're left with taking him at face value. Why not?

'Seriously'
[snip]
'loser' [Soetoro]: He's a liar.

:wave:
 
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^^Because people need to read this more.
Because he is a confirmed "atheist" or a Black Marxist liberation theology so called "christian" of twenty years, due to his need to gain street cred in the Chicago community activist department?
 
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Maybe you should re-read my letter. Thanks to the enlightened teachings of Muhammed, Islam enslaves people at birth.
Your letter doesn't reflect reality.

Islam poses a problem for our secular government. It's not just a religion, it's also a political movement. A political movement that is anti-freedom.
That's just ignorant. I is just a religion, divided into many sects. It may also be part of a political movement - many different, conflicting ones at that.

You can say this because: A. Muhammed was a king.
Like David?

B. His followers were soldiers.
Like David?

C. Islam endorses constant war to expand territory, with a world caliphate as the ultimate objective.
Since when?

And D. It provides a legal system, sharia, which is supposed to usurp all other legal systems.
That's not "a" legal system as each culture interprets it differently.
 
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I think this entire thread is petty justification for hatred of someone you don't know, and yes, I do find it offensive. After reading threads like this, it is obvious to me that Obama isn't the liar here. Disagree with his politics, if you like. I certainly disagree with a lot of his politics. I didn't vote for him myself. However, he's not Satan or even a facsimile thereof. Really, he's not. A good friend of mine had him as a law professor, and tells me he's actually a very nice person.
 
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