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Why there is no clear mention of trinity in the old testament?

Discussion in 'Christian Apologetics' started by Godistruth1, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. Godistruth1

    Godistruth1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    So God alone cannot be considered God or holy spirit alone can't be considered God? Who sad God is infinity. No holy spirit and Jesus were not infinite as in power and knowledge. So you saying infinity just for the sake of it.
     
  2. Godistruth1

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    So three can be infinity gods equal to 1 because 1x1x1x1x1x1x1 is also 1?
     
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    So you agree one is not like one person but like one family or one in unity?
     
  4. Godistruth1

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    You tell me. It's ur bible which says Hear o Israel the Lord your God is One Lord.
     
  5. Godistruth1

    Godistruth1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Of course it is. How can you know who God is when you don't understand his basic nature. You can go making your own interpretations of God
     
  6. Godistruth1

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    Can you explain what it means to say my father and I are 1? Also note holy spirit is not included here.
     
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    "All that is God". So you are saying God is not alone not one personality like a person who is unique in whole universe but God is One in unity or 3 deities?
     
  8. A_Thinker

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    That is more akin to my understanding ... yes ...
     
  9. Godistruth1

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    I believe in facts that are spoken too that I can see and verify with my own eyes. As for God I believe only him and his prophets. Jesus never said trust John or anybody after me, neither did father nor did holy ghost.
     
  10. A_Thinker

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    God is One plane of existence which is unique in the Universe ... in which (3) Persons operate to fulfill a common purpose and plan.
     
  11. A_Thinker

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    Do you trust Mohammed ?
     
  12. Godistruth1

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    So you agree there are three different deities who and one in unity not one single personality?
     
  13. A_Thinker

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    One Lord ... is, essentially, One level of governing.

    And it is clear that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit ALL have a role in that governing ...
     
  14. Godistruth1

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    I trust him because God in his holy book specifically told us that everything of religion is told to him from God and there is nothing that he speaks from himself. Now did God or Jesus or holy spirit tell to follow any of the bible writers?
     
  15. A_Thinker

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    What's important about the nature of God are that He is LOVING, JUST, MERCIFUL, FULL of GRACE, TRUTH, etc.

    What His being looks like (an analogy) ... is not so important ...
     
  16. Godistruth1

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    That's the basic understanding all religions have of their God. We say God can't have a son and you believe God does have a son so how can you be honestly sure who's right?
     
  17. A_Thinker

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    Of course ... it was Mohammed that testified to that.

    Our scriptures say that every proposition must be supported by, at least, 2 witnesses. Even Christ did not, uniquely, speak for Himself.

    Christianity proceeds from, at least, 40 individuals that spoke for God ...

    Ephesians 2

    19 Therefore you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens of the saints and members of God’s household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the cornerstone.
     
  18. A_Thinker

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    Not claiming to have full knowledge of the Godhead, ... I will stick with the Biblical description of One Godhead ... which includes three Persons ...
     
  19. A_Thinker

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    God says that He has a Son ...

    Matthew 3

    16 And when Jesus was baptized, immediately he went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming to rest on him; a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.”
     
  20. Godistruth1

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    It's simple logic. You would not believe in Jesus if you did not believe in Bible sale way I'd not believe in Muhammad if I did not believe in Quran. So if quran/bible says there will come prophets does not mean anyone can claim to be prophet and they can't say because bible or quran said so. The authority must always be specific.
     
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