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Leviticus 27:
30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land or of the fruit
of the tree, is the Lord’s. It is holy to the Lord.
31 If a man wants at all to redeem of his tithes, he shall add one-fifth to it.
32 And concerning the tithe of the herd or the flock, of whatever passes
under the rod, the tenth one shall be holy to the Lord.
Was it not to fulfill the oath of Jacob.
Genesis 28:
20 Then Jacob made a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and keep me in this way
that I am going, and give me bread to eat and clothing to put on,
21 so that I come back to my father’s house in peace, then the Lord shall be my God.
22 And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God’s house, and of all that You
give me I will surely give a tenth to You.
Leviticus 27:
30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land or of the fruit
of the tree, is the Lord’s. It is holy to the Lord.
31 If a man wants at all to redeem of his tithes, he shall add one-fifth to it.
32 And concerning the tithe of the herd or the flock, of whatever passes
under the rod, the tenth one shall be holy to the Lord.
Was it not to fulfill the oath of Jacob.
Genesis 28:
20 Then Jacob made a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and keep me in this way
that I am going, and give me bread to eat and clothing to put on,
21 so that I come back to my father’s house in peace, then the Lord shall be my God.
22 And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God’s house, and of all that You
give me I will surely give a tenth to You.
Hi Pavel, could you provide some authentic information where you got your information on the tithing system before Abraham left. In all of the story about Abraham we have one account of him paying tithe on the spoils of a war. Scripture doesn't mention anyone paying a tithe until God imposed the system at Sinai.Well I will go back to what my Messianic rabbi friend called it a "reasonable tax" levied by Kings. Which bears out if you look at the culture that preceded the Bible in Mesopotamia before Abraham ever left there you had people making tithes to kings, temples etc. That very much was part of the near east culture before Abraham arrived on the scene.
The tithing system for ministers in the New Testament is a man made imposed law. Christians are not under any tithing rules. We are to give because we love our Savior and out of our hearts.There also is an important theme of God as a King. A King of heaven, the universe, a King of Kings etc. And Kings typically get what is due them. Unlike a literal physical king, yahew did not need a tithe to pay for his kingdom etc. being God and self existent etc. But it nevertheless was a form of worship, and in the future would serve as a practice for maintaining his future earthly servants (Levites, Cohens, New Testament ministers).
Hi Pavel, could you provide some authentic information where you got your information on the tithing system before Abraham left. In all of the story about Abraham we have one account of him paying tithe on the spoils of a war. Scripture doesn't mention anyone paying a tithe until God imposed the system at Sinai.
Pavel, the website information was someone's opinion. I am sure people were taxed. Likewise, we are taxed in many ways, but it is to the governing bodies that these taxes go to support not religious entities. I wonder where the Messianic Rabbi got the information?
The Origin of Tithing (letusreason.org)
jehovah, What Abraham gave to Melchizedek was a tenth of the spoils of war. Israelite farmers gave the Levites ten percent of their crops and animals. The Levites gave a tenth of their earnings, the tithe from the farmers, and gave it to the poor. Other than that, there is no record except when Jeus acknowledged the Pharisees tithe from their gardens. Heb 7:12 does not indicate anything about tithing of giving anything.
what does it indicate? The Priesthood has changed, my view is that there's no need now to give 10th of your earning to an earthly Priest. If you get paid in an uneven number youd find it difficult to tithe 10%. You'd also find it difficult to keep all the OT laws. Its why they won't get anyone to heaven.
Giving to your local church with a cheerfull heart means more to the Lord than tithing 10% of what the Lord has blessed us with.
“There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end
thereof are the ways of death” (Proverbs 14:12; 16:25).
God promises to prosper tithe payers. God says in (Malachi 3:10)
“Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat
in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts,
if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a
blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it”.
In (Deuteronomy 14:22) God’s law tells us that we should tithe the
“increase” we receive .The gross income that comes to us as a result
of our own productive efforts, income that we earn ourselves.
A tithe payer prospers, his needs are always supplied.
Those who tithe are not often in want (Psalm 37:25).
The greater rewards for submission to the tithing law are eternal!
“Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound
to your account” (Philippians 4:17).
God promises that His people will always have something to give
to His work (Deuteronomy 16:16-17). He wants us to be happy,
joyful people, blessed and prosperous (3 John 2).
“Honour the Lord with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of
all thine increase: So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and
thy presses shall burst out with new wine” (Proverbs 3:9-10).
In Galatians 6:7, Paul reminds us that God is not mocked,
and that which we sow we shall surely reap.
“Behold, ye have sinned against the Lord: and be sure
your sin will find you out” (Numbers 32:23)
“Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness;
and all these things shall be added unto you” (Matthew 6:33).
We must remember that all we have comes from God (Deuteronomy 10:14).
The first tenth, in addition to offerings, is His portion.
The remainder He gives freely to us. However, if we take to ourselves
that which is God’s, we are stealing and robbing God (Malachi 3:8).
When God receives His portion of all your income, He becomes your
financial partner, sharing the profits. Tithing correctly is the
solution to ending your financial worries.
We, in our individual lives, must walk in the light of God (John 12:35).
Trust God to supply every need, as He has promised (Philippians 4:19).
God promises to bless and prosper the tither! God keeps His promises!
"Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say,
Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings"
Well, I guess Jesus Christ must have been awfully disobedient because all He got out of life was death on a cross and no prosperity at all.
"WE" should tithe. Might I remind you that "we" are not under the old covenant laws. That covenant did not include any other nation and ended at Calvary. God's tithing laws for Israel only included farmers and Levites“There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end
thereof are the ways of death” (Proverbs 14:12; 16:25).
God promises to prosper tithe payers. God says in (Malachi 3:10)
“Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat
in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts,
if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a
blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it”.
In (Deuteronomy 14:22) God’s law tells us that we should tithe the
“increase” we receive .The gross income that comes to us as a result
of our own productive efforts, income that we earn ourselves.
I paid the tax for years and yes God took care of our needs. Now I don't pay tithe and God is still taking care of our needs.A tithe payer prospers, his needs are always supplied.
Those who tithe are not often in want (Psalm 37:25).
I don't believe that verse is telling us to tithe.The greater rewards for submission to the tithing law are eternal!
“Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound
to your account” (Philippians 4:17).
And that I am.God promises that His people will always have something to give
to His work (Deuteronomy 16:16-17). He wants us to be happy,
joyful people, blessed and prosperous (3 John 2).
What you have done in your post is created a false hood about tithing. First of all even Jesus who was under the old covenant's laws would not have been a tithe payer. It is a false premise that God is going to bless you because you give a tenth of your increase. Unless you were a farmer and under the old covenant all of the verses you came up with do not apply. I certainly have not robbed God of money and I do not have any financial worries.“Honour the Lord with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of
all thine increase: So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and
thy presses shall burst out with new wine” (Proverbs 3:9-10).
In Galatians 6:7, Paul reminds us that God is not mocked,
and that which we sow we shall surely reap.
“Behold, ye have sinned against the Lord: and be sure
your sin will find you out” (Numbers 32:23)
“Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness;
and all these things shall be added unto you” (Matthew 6:33).
We must remember that all we have comes from God (Deuteronomy 10:14).
The first tenth, in addition to offerings, is His portion.
The remainder He gives freely to us. However, if we take to ourselves
that which is God’s, we are stealing and robbing God (Malachi 3:8).
When God receives His portion of all your income, He becomes your
financial partner, sharing the profits. Tithing correctly is the
solution to ending your financial worries.
We, in our individual lives, must walk in the light of God (John 12:35).
Trust God to supply every need, as He has promised (Philippians 4:19).
God promises to bless and prosper the tither! God keeps His promises!
"Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say,
Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings"
The conundrum is that Jesus wouldn't have been a tithe payer. The law only required Israelites to pay the tax if they raised cattle and and/or crops. Carpenters, sandal makers, tent makers, retailers, etc. were not required to pay tithe.
Hi Bob S,Yep, those re the things that tithe paying churches don't tell their members. Elle even went so far as to write the following:
We should regularly reserve something for God's cause, that He may not be robbed of the portion which He claims. When we rob God we rob ourselves also. We give up the heavenly treasure for the sake of having more of this earth. This is a loss that we cannot afford to sustain. (5T 271.3)
The man who has been unfortunate, and finds himself in debt, should not take the Lord's portion to cancel his debts to his fellow men. He should consider that in these transactions he is being tested, and that in reserving the Lord's portion for his own use he is robbing the Giver. He is debtor to God for all that he has, but he becomes a double debtor when he uses the Lord's reserved fund in paying debts to human beings. "Unfaithfulness to God" is written against his name in the books of heaven. He has an account to settle with God for appropriating the Lord's means for his own convenience. And the want of principle shown in his misappropriation of God's means will be revealed in his management of other matters. It will be seen in all matters connected with his own business. The man who will rob God is cultivating traits of character that will cut him off from admittance into the family of God above. (6T 391.1)