Why Social Justice is Marxism, and Why it Applies to Your Marriage.

[I Art Laughing]

Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
(Heb 12:4-8)

 

[I Art Laughing]

...what is it about the internet that brings out the crazy, and worse, convinces the crazy to blame/credit God for their own craziness?

Apparently you haven't seen crazy. I might point out some similarities between your logic about craziness and general offensiveness but I think that you are smart enough to gather the allusion up for yourself.

 

[mkgal1]

What is this topic about

Still trying to figure that out myself. Apparently--from what I can glean---evil feminists are to blame for having any sort of needs and opinions and that's causing divorce---even YOUR marriage is threatened by those feminists. Somehow Marxism comes into the equation. I'm just as confused as you are.

 

[mkgal1]

You don't like where the conversation is going and now you are deflecting. I would really like to help you understand what I'm saying but I don't think you'll let yourself go there. We can't take God's place at the center of our marriages, we can't set the conditions of obedience to God, only He can. Our spouses may be unfair, unloving, ungodly, but we are still commanded to love them even if they don't love us. Any type of humanism is telling us all of the reasons that we shouldn't have to put up with a spouse that we don't think is worthy. It has a whole box of tools that tells us that we don't really have to take God seriously and love sacrificially. To follow the example of Christ. Feminism is only one of these various human centered ideologies that is particularly pernicious and nearly ubiquitous in the West, that is why I pointed to it as a cause of most of the "Christian" divorces. It only takes one to leave.

"Where the conversation is going"? You started this thread and never even properly addressed the OP. IMO....it seems you are just ranting....venting. I'll leave you to it.

 

[JaneFW]

America is still so strange to me sometimes, especially the hysteria about communism. It's like almost nothing can be discussed without someone screaming COMMUNIST! SOCIALIST! MARXIST! I decided never to vote for a Republican candidate ever again after one Republican called the NHS (National Health System in England) an "evil entity" but he was a typical moron, as was the newspaper that decided to pitch in and say that: "People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the UK, where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless." I guess he didn't know that 1) Stephen Hawking is British and lives in England and 2) the NHS has saved his life on several occasions. So, I don't care who they field, the Republicans and the right wingers lost me for life at that point.

 

[I Art Laughing]

America is still so strange to me sometimes, especially the hysteria about communism. It's like almost nothing can be discussed without someone screaming COMMUNIST! SOCIALIST! MARXIST! I decided never to vote for a Republican candidate ever again after one Republican called the NHS (National Health System in England) an "evil entity" but he was a typical moron, as was the newspaper that decided to pitch in and say that: "People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the UK, where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless." I guess he didn't know that 1) Stephen Hawking is British and lives in England and 2) the NHS has saved his life on several occasions. So, I don't care who they field, the Republicans and the right wingers lost me for life at that point.

Yeah, so you'll vote for the abortion on demand crowd? I'm not a single issue voter but I have to wonder when people start lining up to pay for abortions because it is somehow the socially just thing to do, whose values they are holding dear?

 

[I Art Laughing]

"Where the conversation is going"? You started this thread and never even properly addressed the OP. IMO....it seems you are just ranting....venting. I'll leave you to it.

According to who? Jane here seems to want to vote in the people who will provide "free" abortions on demand and mandate same sex marriage (I'm not suggesting she is advocating just lining up with that interest politically) unless she is suggesting that she is voting libertarian or something. I see "social justice" as a value system that is opposed to God, because it attempts to replace God's value system with our own. As I think about this Capitalism, Republicanism, Male Rights Activism, and any other good idea we have accomplishes the same thing. As followers of Christ we are to come under HIS yoke and not one of our own making.

Again the original sin was Eve wanting to be as God, knowing for herself good and evil and she gave up life (Jesus Christ) to do so. Now we all have to decide whether to do what makes sense to us (places ourselves on the throne) or mortifying the flesh and letting Christ rule in us.

When we adopt a value system it warps our ability to hear His voice, we get confused about what is really important. God is a jealous God and we can't be double-minded (read James, I hear Beth Moore has a new Bible-study on it). Humanism in any of its forms makes us double-minded.

 

[JaneFW]

You may be confused, and double-minded IAL, but that's your problem. You use your vote, I'll use mine. I'm for sure not taking on board any more of your name calling, finger pointing and hysteria. Knock yourself out.

 

[mkgal1]

Again the original sin was Eve wanting to be as God, knowing for herself good and evil and she gave up life (Jesus Christ) to do so. Now we all have to decide whether to do what makes sense to us (places ourselves on the throne) or mortifying the flesh and letting Christ rule in us.

That's not true.

 

[SearchingStudent]

For someone who is so opposed to "rights" IAL sure likes using his "right" to free speech as guaranteed by the Constitution...hypocritical? Hmmmm....

 

[Sailor_A]

America is still so strange to me sometimes, especially the hysteria about communism. It's like almost nothing can be discussed without someone screaming COMMUNIST! SOCIALIST! MARXIST! I decided never to vote for a Republican candidate ever again after one Republican called the NHS (National Health System in England) an "evil entity" but he was a typical moron, as was the newspaper that decided to pitch in and say that: "People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the UK, where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless." I guess he didn't know that 1) Stephen Hawking is British and lives in England and 2) the NHS has saved his life on several occasions. So, I don't care who they field, the Republicans and the right wingers lost me for life at that point.

I obviously can understand why you feel like that. My first introduction was when I watched fox news when I was in Kuwait. It was an eye-opener.

 

[mkgal1]

It's still seeming that this is what is trying to be expressed:

I had been wondering the same thing, because of the title.....this thread was framed that way & not all are.

That's quite a leap of logic that if one is finding them self in a divorce that somewhere feminism had a role in it....UNLESS, we are back to rights again. It seems that what you are saying is that women need to check any and all rights at the door of the chapel before they get married......am I reading correctly? Because if BOTH spouses are forgoing their rights in favor of serving the other spouse, I hardly believe that would cause divorce.

 

[I Art Laughing]

You may be confused, and double-minded IAL, but that's your problem. You use your vote, I'll use mine. I'm for sure not taking on board any more of your name calling, finger pointing and hysteria. Knock yourself out.

A: Who did I call a name?

B: Who am I pointing a finger at?

C: I don't have a uterus.

 

[ImperialPhantom]

Apparently you haven't seen crazy. I might point out some similarities between your logic about craziness and general offensiveness but I think that you are smart enough to gather the allusion up for yourself.

1) Crazy people don't know that they are crazy.

2) I am offensive. I'm not going to hide my offensiveness when doing so would get in the way of telling the truth. Maybe you yourself need to be offended.

 

[Athene]

A: Who did I call a name?

B: Who am I pointing a finger at?

C: I don't have a uterus.

and we're no longer in the 19th century, hth

 

[Athene]

You don't like where the conversation is going and now you are deflecting. I would really like to help you understand what I'm saying but I don't think you'll let yourself go there. We can't take God's place at the center of our marriages, we can't set the conditions of obedience to God, only He can. Our spouses may be unfair, unloving, ungodly, but we are still commanded to love them even if they don't love us. Any type of humanism is telling us all of the reasons that we shouldn't have to put up with a spouse that we don't think is worthy. It has a whole box of tools that tells us that we don't really have to take God seriously and love sacrificially. To follow the example of Christ. Feminism is only one of these various human centered ideologies that is particularly pernicious and nearly ubiquitous in the West, that is why I pointed to it as a cause of most of the "Christian" divorces. It only takes one to leave.

Are Christians not allowed to have non-negotiable's? Is being a Christian just a nice way of saying you're a doormat and every man and his dog can walk over you?

 

[SearchingStudent]

And then there are those of us "feminists" who fought to keep our marriages intact in the face of biblical reasons to divorce. Some of us chose to forgive and go on. So, that blows the theory that feminists who "demand" to be respected and treated properly in a marriage will divorce at the drop of a hat.